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All in all, what I wanna say is, Seju's life is like this, she had nothing meaningful in her life until Sumin came. Sumin is literally the only meaningful in her life, so she sticks to her. So, in order to make her stop and try to change, you have to give her another meaningful in her life, make her realize that there is another thing, too. A pet, nature, beautiful house, even new lover. However, she has to realize it first before trying to move on, not tell her to move on and then said hey, you would find sth meaningful along the way, just go find it, move to usa, new place and go find it in uncertaincy :)
She needs to have another meaningful in her life first, sth that makes her want to change, if not, then I dont think she should stop because that's how she was built, how the author wants her to be
A) If Sumin Seju are not together, I think there's no way Seju can live. Please make her happy. 성지는 아직 젊잖아요, 수민이랑 헤어져도 기회도 많고 문제없이 잘살것 같은데, 세주는 수민이랑 헤어지면 살수가 없을것 같아요. 부디 세주의 짠내를 멈춰주세요ㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜㅜ
Gyeomji) Hmm, I don't think that's the only way to make her happy. 세주의 짠내를 멈추는 방법이 한가지만은 아닐거에요
She did a brilliant job to prove the complete opposite though.
Gyeomji) Seju is such an beauty, extremely rich, smart, has a killer body, she's got it all, she's too prefect. So I thought, her making mistake once, giving her one flaw was not a bad idea, hohoho. 세주 미인에다 엄청난 부자에 머리도 좋고 몸매도 좋잖아요. 다 갖췄잖아요, 너무 완벽하잖아요. 한번쯤 실수해야 인간미 있죠. 호호
TG is pretty cruel to Seju though. Since she thinks Seju is too perfect in a way, she has to give Seju a flaw, making her commit a mistake, however, it was not just a simple mistake. A mistake that took away everything from her, literally, a mistake that she has to live with its painful price for 10 years without forgiveness. One mistake and she has to live in regret for the rest of her life. If this is not cruelty, I dont know what is.
And talking about double standards, if I can ask TG in Korean, I'll have to ask her, so why you think Seju is too perfect, you have to give her a flaw but you absolutely build a Sungji who is even more perfect than Seju, who literally also has it all, love, family, nice and cute personalities, the only thing Seju has but Sungji doesnt is money, but Seju doesnt even care about it. So where is Sungji's flaw, Team Gaji?
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5 chapters doesn't feel enough to deal with all of it and an assassin... Even if the chapters were longer, it still wouldn't be enough.
nah! and a possibly another sex scene with darlinggg all over.
I wish I could ask Team Gaji in Korean if that (June Finale) is true
I honestly doubt the June information is right. From other forums, there is one thing seems true is SuminxSeju's side story since all other threads talk about it, other things like SuminxSungji, Dawoonxlawyer, Seju wont die, ending in June, it appears here and there but not mention in all forums so I wont believe in those unless I get to listen to the podcast
I missed when they used to put flashbacks.. God !!
also, when I used to scroll 5 times to read one chapter !Btw, seems like it's trend these days that each main character in manhwa to have different hair color? Everytime I read a new story lately, it all ends up calling characters by hair color as the fastest way =))))
to be honest, I was put off by the fact that Seju has a pink hair, I assumed that this story will be fantasy or some sci-fi thing.. little that I knew back then that Pink is the warmest colour XD
=)))), why? I personally don't like pink but Seju's hair is not hot pink, it's just light pink and look quite nice right from the start.
Honestly, even if SuminxSungji do end up togother like most people have predicted, I hope that Seju will still end up alone without moving on with another person, I want to keep her loyal love till the end. Such a sad thing that she would move on with another person. Her undying and unbreakable love for Sumin despite of every bad thing or hardships is cool no matter how toxic like everyone said. I know it's selfish but I dont like seeing her loving someone else. Let that love become eternal and forever :), to prove Seju herself that there is thing that lasts forever :)
Nora89
I've started noticing Seju's behavior since the hiatus where they uploaded a fanart. Even though, Sungji is in between them but both Sumin and Sungji look straight ahead them while Seju is the only one looking down. TBH, in this artwork, I could see that Sumin whole-heartedly looks at Sungji, indicating her love is solely for Sungji at the moment, but Seju instead of looking at Sumin or sth, she looks down, doesn't look at anyone and in dazed, just like how she is lately in the manhwa :). I only wonder why :). I could be thinking too much anyway.
Uhm, in arc 3, don't you guys think SuminxSungji are still the same, happy, fluffy, cheesy and on their right track to be the ultimate couple but Seju seems to be sadder? Or am I thinking too much? She still has creepy self-talk moments("nothing is gonna change. Nothing.....") and some ambiguous facial expression(the smirk...) but her face looks sadder( for example, before she said nothing will change, when she hang up the phone, her face is not a happy face and completely not the creepy face in arc 1 and 2, that's for sure)? I don't know. Back then, in arc 1 and 2, in all those creepy moments like in chap 45 or 27 , she looked very confident with her half-smile and her thoughts are definition of psycho ex =)))))). Seju nowadays smiles a lot more but why do I see her look sadder than ever? And more reserved. God, I don't know how to express this in English =))))))). Like when I saw her facial expression when she's alone (the phone call for job interview, the bath scene, ....), she doesn't look like she was before.
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What's the point in letting your gf to work alone in your ex gf's company?
And driving the ex-gf to her office, which is the same office where her gf is working at. Such is the complication of Sumin's lyfe.
Btw, what did Seju reference to before she got hit by the pillow and smiled ? I am totally lost.
The first time Sumin and Seju makes love, Sumin is very nervous so she couldn't open one button of Seju's shirt. It's from chapter 8. Open sesame was from this =))))). Seju's teasing is jack-pot in that scene, I lol so hard =))))))). But quite surprised that it's Seju who talked about this, since I'm pretty sure the flashback in that chap was from Sumin's mind =))))))
last edited at Apr 19, 2017 4:38AM
I want to point out 3 little things I noticed:
- Seju's face after Sumin closed the bathroom's door(?) (I assumed she went looking for Seju and then when she knew where she was, she immediately closed the door), her face look sad(?), the previous scene she's all sexy but right next scene, her face is very different from the previous one
- I personally think Seju has lied about her already eating dinner, Sumin said there's nothing in the fridge and the food on table left untouched. Seju can't leave the house so I guess she lied about having dinner. For what exactly? Why did she lie about this?
- Sumin's over-protectiveness. Sumin seems to be too protective towards Seju at the moment. She checks on Seju every second and the beginning of the chap makes me feel she's kinda paranoid @@. Plus the whole, driving Seju to and from work, too, bascally she doesn't let Seju out of her sight @@. A little too protective for the whole situation, as if she's very afraid sth will happen to Seju and she would disappear forever.
Seem like most of us already believe that SungjixSumin is endgame while Seju's fate is probably an open ending after backing away from Sumin? Is there anyone here think otherwise?
Oh, and about SungjixSumin XD, it's funny like this: I've never doubted Seju's love for Sumin (maybe because of 10 years of waiting in agony XD) but I have so many doubts about this supposed to be main couple XD. I cant name it but when I read the manhwa, I constantly feel they lack of something XD, something that makes me think they are meant to be. Is their love strong enough? Do they love each other with all their hearts? Serious things happened and here they are still so okay? And the most important question of them all, will Sumin be able to forgive Sungji if Sungji accidentally sleeps with a man? Will her love for Sungji be enough for her to forgive Sungji?
You might constantly say you love each other but through difficult times, bad judgement, arguments and sad times, that's how you sharpen your love and have long-lasting relationships and the core of it is love XD. SungjixSumin, I don't find it in them XD, maybe cause they solve the hell of cheating like drinking water, so easy. XD
Do you guys think that Sumin has that double standard too?
I'm not so sure about this, cause from what I think, Sumin's hatred and anger is way too strong. There were too many tragic events happened continuously in a short span of time which might lead Sumin to react that way so I don't know for sure it's because it is a he or because she put full blame of what happened to her onto Seju's head and making it the reason for her to live on with hatred and anger. But one thing I know for sure, from my own lesbian perspective, Sumin's love for Seju is nothing compare to Seju's love for her :), and that's probably the reason why they couldn't work out :). Sumin might do love Seju but that love is never strong enough, not enough to go pass her hatred and anger even after 10 years :), while Seju literally could die for Sumin. SejuxSumin's kind of love can not be really long-lasting even in real life :), imo.
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Nora89
What I'm about to say is totally just my thoughts and feelings so I really hope I won't say anything that hurts you :).
I've never been in you case before so I can't know for sure how I would react but if I were about to imagine myself in your shoes, I personally think your situation is not about forgiveness cause like you said it's not a cheating but it's more like how you and her overcome the shadow of a bad situation, how to overcome the haunting thoughts of her being with someone else, not you. It's not about hatred, betrayal, it's more about insecurities and fears. You can't love someone whole-heartedly when you constantly thought "She's once like this with another man". You don't hate her but you will find it's hard to be with her. It will take time to work on it but I believe if both of you love each other enough, you will overcome it :). That's how I feel about this but like I said, I haven't experienced it myself so I'm sorry if I'm wrong :).
In SuminxSeju's case, it's different from yours, simply cause Seju indeed cheated on her with a man. So forgiveness is a must and after that, there are still alot of other work like building trust.... and I think in SuminxSeju's case, 10 years is more than enough to take the first step, aka forgiveness :), if it's just a year or months, I won't say I can forgive her cause that's too fast, but in SuminxSeju, it has been too long and Seju is still sticking around, it says alot so I sincerely give Seju a benefit of a doubt for that bad judgement
I'm one lesbian myself and if I were to put myself in Sumin's shoes, the first thing I did would exactly like what she did, cut all ties with Seju but later on with how the story goes, I think I will forgive Seju even when she has cheated with a man, not a woman. Honestly, to me, the most important thing for a lesbian is finding someone who truly love you, it's not easy in this society, even for a normal love let alone lesbian love. So, no matter how twisted Seju's personality is, even the cheating is bad, her love for Sumin is real, too real and she indeed keep her promise of waiting. And for me, that's enough, as long as love is there, it's enough, especially when she spent years to redeem herself. It says alot. So put myself in Sumin's situation, I think I will forgive her, or at least give a second chance for her to prove herself again and absolutely not take 10 years for me to do that.
However, how one reacts to this kind of situation will be different sooo I dont know :)
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I also think it's the right time for Seju to no longer involve in the love triangle, time for her to solve her family's problems, she'll probably get pulled back into our big love triangle soon, but I think in the next few chaps, I guess she'll go and do her own things. A quiet farewell is better than a cheating then things mess up and everyone goes back to square one, Seju once again stuck in between teamblonde and hinder Sumin's life...again. So, as much many people want to see a cheating, I think it is a pretty bad plot. Too dramatic, as if right now things are not dramatic enough
Would be totally scary if the next chap, Sumin rejected Seju's pleading for one last time, then Seju go crazy and try to kill Sumin then kill herself next =))))))))). I'm gonna burn the author's house if she makes Seju like that =)))))))))))))
This story would be interesting to see what would happen after another 10 yearsfrom now. Like Sumin moving with Sungji away. And if she would never try to go back to Seju again in the distant future
I don't think Seju could make it that far =)). She's already sooooo close to suicide. One more small push and we will have the saddest ending for the most depressing character of all the stories I've read.
Wow, this chapter is so cruel for Seju, like the author really knows how to push Seju to a whole new level of low. To be able to hear your love telling she loves you but doesn't want to be with you is the most cruel thing anyone could do to a person, really. I'd rather have Sumin say her choice in a less hurtful way than this, if it stopped at "I love Sungji", this chapter wouldn't be hurt this much. Wow, Seju is a character to test how depressing one could be till the end of the manhwa, really.
Oh, btw, I read sth saying Seju was acting like the unreasonable Sumin in this chap, I don't agree, I find Seju's reaction is normal. You can't just accept the kindness from the one who is taking away your lover in happy and open arms. That would be too fake, toooooo fake.
She has been too fake for 10 years already. I would love to see her real side too. But why all of a sudden? Reading the divine Sungji interacting with the immature Seju is creeping me out!
Oh, so you're one of those who think Seju is a b*tch and Sungji is all around good girl and super duper perfect then? So, I would like to stop arguing :)), there is no use of keep talking :)))).
You came to the conclusion too soon. You didn't bother finding out if your assumption about other was wrong not. Whatever floats your boat.
Oh, so where did you find Seju's fakeness from? I don't get the whole fake thing, seriously, so please enlighten me. And, immature? Get yourself in her shoes, for God's sake, do you feel annoy if you want to be alone but someone keep bothering you? And that someone also is the person who is taking away her love. Sure, she's worrying about you, so you're supposed to accepting it with open arms? Really? Coming from a person who has been alone for most of her life? I don't get your logic at all.
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Oh, btw, I read sth saying Seju was acting like the unreasonable Sumin in this chap, I don't agree, I find Seju's reaction is normal. You can't just accept the kindness from the one who is taking away your lover in happy and open arms. That would be too fake, toooooo fake.
She has been too fake for 10 years already. I would love to see her real side too. But why all of a sudden? Reading the divine Sungji interacting with the immature Seju is creeping me out!
Oh, so you're one of those who think Seju is a b*tch and Sungji is all around good girl and super duper perfect then? So, I would like to stop arguing :)), there is no use of keep talking :)))). I honestly can't get where is Seju's fakeness for 10 years from, and honestly talking about fake, Sungji's actions make me feel a little sick at the moment, the author is building a freaking too perfect character that makes me feel fake, tbh. She's not real, I'm sorry because there are many people that love her but the more Team Gaji push her kindness, the more it started to annoy me.
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Is it just me who find it unsettling about the way Sumin treats Sungji ? I mean she just scolded the girl directly even when she said she had an emergency matter, and instead of asking/worrying about Sungji for it, she only care about the ring, which got me :| because it reminded me so much like Seju 2.0 pre-cheating situation.
I think it's totally normal. Work is work, personal matters are another thing. Sumin is just being professional, which I really like. She's the boss, dating a subordinate doesn't make Sungji get a special treatment at all. If she has an emergency, she still needs to ask for permission before leaving. In real world, it's like that, you leave work abruptly, you need to ask for permission no matter what kind of situation you're in. This is not sth we have to question about. You should've focused more on the fact that Sumin is very understanding when she realised Sungji has lost her ring, she didn't question it much, not even "You should pay more attention on it, that's something special...", she took the ring off, probably thought that since Sungji has lost hers, there is no reason for her to wear it anymore, not because she's mad. Sumin is trying to be understanding, try to be good to Sungji as much as possible, she wants them to last. And if the speculations are right, the resignation letter is also because of Sungji, she wants stay away from Seju as much as possible and solely focuses on Sungji, just like her words "I'll try my best to be good to you from now on" and her first step clearly has to be forget Seju.
last edited at May 19, 2016 6:35AM
After this chap, I feel worse for Seju, all alone without even one person to call. Seriously not sure when will thing get better for her?
More then 20 chaps left and I wonder how will the author possibly solve all Seju's back stories with this pace? Her father, the creepy man with the woman looking exactly like her, except the eyes, the plan that is going on behind her back. Seriously, Seju's problems absolutely can make a spin-off story =)). Too many complicated stuff.
Nah, I mean, Seju saw Sungji's kindness and let Sumin go in the end because she realised they can't be together anymore, not literally "fall" for her kindness =))
I, on the other hand, really don't like this chapter. The fact that the author lets Sungji be the one taking care of Seju clearly shows that they wants to make way for Seju to accept Sungji. I mean, we all know she's nice and all but make Seju the damsel in distress and Sungji is the hero is too predictable and make Sungji be the hero of everything. I can't explain it, too typical, maybe? We all now can guess a thing or two what gonna happen next :). Andd, I'm relly going to be honest here, Sungji's overly kindness is starting to bother me. I hope the author will not make Sungji an angel or sth. Humans have flaws, for God's sake!
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Oh, btw, I hope there will be translation for the letter in the book on Sumin's desk together with the ring, the final frame if you don't see it, I think she's up to something. Retirement letter? Some crazy twist finally happen? =))