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I mean Juuna is kinda correct though...Hane still thinks her and the magical girl are the same person and even if Juuna has clearly fallen for Hane she also has had to deal with being totally aware of this fact which resulted in this response. Now this isn't exactly going to be good for Hane who is already consumed by guilt on multiple fronts and this probably just added another layer to that but still

I agree with this. Even if Junna ends up being the older magical girl who is brainwashed, she is also a different person at this point. Hane should at least know that despite the fact that she is going to be shattered by it.

We have been seeing things from Hane's perspectives for the last few chapters so it's real nice to see that Junna was very much keeping tabs on Hane. Like Hane is alot more mature from a year later, but she is still (at her core) the obvious yet strongest magical girl. I do believe that Junna could have easily known from Hane's lovestruck yet guilt-ridden behavior and a little bit of background check.

Now, as we've seen Junna can get quite jealous and possessive about Hane (any day now we'll need the Yandere tag). If she's right about the magical girl being someone else, could she be trying to break Hane's spirit, just to make sure she's her One and Only?

Kinda agree here too. I think Junna's intention is basically this in twofold. She does absolutely want to break the magical girl but her response to Hane's love is genuine (if twisted with the first intention).

What an awesome chapter and subversion of the firework tropes. Like I really thought from last chapter, we were going by the books but I really like that we just get the big bombshell even after the biggest fireworks would have drowned out Hane's confession. Instead, the distraction came from the magical girl side where some monster ended up causing a ruckus which gave Hane an out to avoid confronting what Junna said.

I really hope the next few chapters switches to Junna's perspective to explain how she got the infomation, her perspective from being saved by Hane, and how she sees Hane in comparison. I get the feeling (established by Chapter 0 and 1) that Junna's view of Hane is placed on a high pedestal (strongest magical girl) that she wants to build to the highest point before tearing it down.

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What if Junna killed the purple magical girl? Wouldn't that be fucked up? (Wearing my Sickos shirt)

That's fucked up. (I love it)

Tanasumi
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This is so sweet.

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anyways, i don’t know if this was already discussed since i don’t feel like going through the whole comment section for this manga, and i might just have missed it but what does junna keep meaning by “i’ll defeat you one day”? she’s not the evil general anymore, nor does she seem to be trying to go against the magical girls. so what is she trying to defeat her in?? fucking uno??

The most literal reading atm is wounded pride mixed with a confusion of love/respect ((The Only One Allowed to Defeat You trope)). Even though Junna was saved by Hane, there is a part of her that ultimately resents the fact that she lost to the magical girl. If RandomFanZ's theory is correct that Junna was one of the strongest within the Barren Hollow evil group (likely confirmed given that they kept trying to kidnap her back), then that goes double to her pride. To be beaten by the strongest (dumb) magical girl only to be saved by her. Junna is grateful to be alive but likely as a rival with alot of pride in her power, she is also insulted somewhere deep within. That gets mixed with her love and respect for Hane which morphs into The Only One Allowed to Defeat You trope.

The trope itself also leads to alot of excuses for Junna to justify helping Hane during Hane's moment of weakness (something shown in Chapter 1 and her protectiveness against jerks and creeps). Only SHE can beat Hane. Only SHE knows Hane. Hane belongs to her! and of course, potential drama is she does make good on that desire once she regain her powers.

((just a little clarification, the trope itself may not be as serious as I made it out. It is possible the "i'll defeat you one day" is simply the excuse for Junna to help Hane to avoid thinking deeply about why she wants to stick by Hane's side and eventually it gets dropped once she realized her feelings but I love a good angst drama))

I had speculated other reasons a while back but that was under the assumption that Junna would end up knowing about Hane's guilt.

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Thanks Raru Buran for giving us a chart on their relationship as well as confirming a whole bunch lmao. ((Junna still wants that rematch established in Chapter 1 huh.))

That being said, I am interested in the possibility that Junna isn't the magical girl especially when there is also subtle hints from the last chapter (Chapter 21) that she could have been the younger sister (or clone?) of the older magical girl. It would make Hane's despair even worse lol. (I'm sorry).

I could also see the potential that Junna was also inspired by the older magical girl if they end up not being the same person or related. Like young Junna was captured/or a young demon officer in training, the older magical girl came to save her or to fight an evil general in Barren Hollow, didn't succeed, either died, dropped the charm while running away, or managed to give them to Junna. Junna was absolutely enamoured by her and copied her hairstyle while keeping the charm as a keepsake but she obviously didn't know her and eventually she just forgets her (or brainwashed afterwards).

In either case, Junna eventually becomes an evil general whether she is the older magical girl who disappeared and got brainwashed or she is a different person (brainwashed or otherwise) entirely to just happen to resemble the older magical girl while having the charm somehow.

I would tell Hane to go for it...but this is the summer festival after all. An infamous time to confess especially when involving those...fireworks. Yeah, she's cooked regardless if Junna doesn't end up getting whisked away in the crowd by the hooded figure last chapter.

Hane's appeal really lies in the gap where she is the typical innocent (dumb) main magical girl on one side vs lovestruck locked-in guilt-ridden magical girl who grew too fast in a year. ((Please don't abuse your fellow strongest magical girl's most precious/trauma response? to have her lock-in. /j ))

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I really like Ruka's new hairstyle. Very mature and also differentiate her from Ren.

Still sad it ended. I kinda wanted more hijinks and maybe Sunna getting a little bit more development but it is what it is. It did seems like it ended with most of what it wanted to tell.

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Are there any jp vtubers that talk about 3 kingdoms

I assume that if there is a prominent one, they might already be featured by Koei and such. But as far as I am aware, not yet? Or at least if there might be someone, that person is very unknown and probably not on Youtube.

Nijisanji JPN has collabed with Koei to put their Vtubers as bonus officers though so maybe Kuzuha, Sister Claire, and Debidebi Debiru might have some knowledge on three kingdoms.

But like direct deep dive podcast style or even a novel reading with a vtuber? Still an untapped market. The only prominent JPN history channel I come across present them with Yukkuri Reimu/Marisa UTAU text to speech, and that branches out to other Chinese/East Asian/Europeon history too.

I assume China might have one?

Anyway, go off Shirataki~ You are probably going to lose the Romance of the Love Triangle to Gerry though. :(

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Did not expect this crossover. Shino just destroyed that Bacteria.

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Junna ponders on big sister huh? Still too little to tell but you can probably make alot of guesses. It might also just be a red herring and is more-so pointing towards Junna's desire for a proper connection/friend/family that she doesn't get in Barren Hollow's Demon Maze compared to the now with Hane.

I did wonder if the title had become an artifact at this point. Perhaps the original concept was going to have alot more moments similar to Chapter 0 and Chapter 1 where Hane would cause Junna to swoon but it seems quite clear that Hane is the main draw of the series with her fast growth/change of demeanor contrast within one year being the appeal. Coupled with the author wanting to try having the two protagonist occasionally switch on who is the dominant one, and thus we have a string of Hane tripping herself over for Junna while she is none the wiser. I guess to be fair, it has been 21 chapters in snippets and given that we will have an antagonist coming up (likely a former coworker in Barren Hollow's Demon Maze), there is many opportunities to return back with Junna crushing more obviously on Hane.

I do have one outlandish theory if maybe it would end up being reversed. That given how Hane is willing to bear the sins for Junna, that she could end up becoming the evil general while Junna might rediscover herself being a magical girl before, and thus it's another cycle...but yeah, it's falls apart if you think even a little bit about it.

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Nice supportive elderly couple. Hane has been called out twice now. Their yukatas are very pretty.

Meanwhile, Sou had to resist the temptation to go full Amakusa Shino. Nice call on lowering the mike there, Yunna.

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Daw, good friends/wingmates for Hane's festival date/and protecting Junna from her former coworkers from trying to bring her back to Barren Hollow's Demon Maze. It's nice to know that they know Junna is a former evil general and support Hane's efforts in helping/getting together with Junna.

It is kind of amusing to see Junna be the dense one. It's not new of course, usually her archetype tends to be the one who wants to go with just the two of them since she may not get along with the dense heroine's friends/rivals/etc. The teasing by Tenkai and Hisuigura was effective in getting Hane to be honest.

Tanasumi
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Make sure your legs are healed before you get down to it~ (unless you and your partners are okay with it)

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Huh, I thought they were dating already. Reading all the chapters back there were some where they were just friends, but others where there was an implication of dating, but I guess it was ambiguous.

Yeah, Junna refers to them planning to go to the cafe together as a date but it seems like they haven't actually confessed yet which I guess is why the title refers to crushes even if I agree with the person a while back that Hane is the one who crushes harder although I do think it's more about Junna slowly coming to terms with her feeling for Hane while Hane is already all-in but held back by her guilt.

Also, Junna as the top moment~

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Cat RyouNiji~

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「I'll let my soul be stained black if that's what it takes」

Poor Hane :( but hahaha, she slept hugged Junna for 3 hours and then apologized in dogeza, probably to hide her beat-red embarrassment. Also Hane's love language is hugging huh? I guess it's obvious upon rereading it but yeah, she do like hugs.

Now that I think about it though, upon rereading Chapter 1 because I wanted to check if her comment on "being the only one allowed to defeat Hane" has a double meaning on freeing her from the magical girl stuff but it seems ambiguous. I guess if I were to just read it at face value is that going by Chapter 1, Junna very much likes Hane, and is positively influenced by her but she is still seeking to regain her powers seemingly to get a rematch? Or maybe it's for something else? I guess old habits as a villain in a magical girl show dies hard even if it will likely be for love.

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This was the part I was waiting for since reading ahead because I was just as confused about the nature of Junna's past. I don't really have anything new to say that haven't been said although I am willing to let the author cook with this one. I think ckretaznmayden's theory is pretty on point on solving the age dilemma and in any case, the magical girl Junna is basically buried deep and it's not like current Junna seems to remember anything on her time as one at the moment. A potential hook if the author decides to bring any other older/previous magical girls that used to work with Junna before her loss to the dark side.

I am a little disappointed that Junna ended up as a magicial girl first -> turned bad -> turned to neutralish (but not exactly the same person as when she was a magical girl) since it does kinda undermine what I expected from the evil general concept (mainly being born evil who learns to be better because she likes and was saved by the magical girl) but I believe it is kind of a staple with villians in magicial shows to usually be from humans that were corrupted either for the week or as a major antagonists so by all means, I ended up being okay with it.

I also do enjoy Hane's despair with the whole ordeal, even if Junna is saved for now and no longer works for the evil organization. There is a sense of tortured guilt having hurt the exact one who saved you and inspired you to become a magical girl in the first place. Of course, not to mention the potential future where Hane might end up being pressured to kill Junna for real due to the consequences of Junna being a former evil general (or more likely, mirror Junna by turning bad as a result of this ordeal). Good stuff.

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Big reveal...oh sorry, uh...I was looking at the scar, I swear!

Can't wait for the next one.

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I am sad :(

I know the series is probably owned by their publisher or something but can we please have some cameo for Suuna and Ruka in Shino and Ren? I want to see how their relationship grows in both similarities and difference between them.

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A classic. Cute Hana in her usual routine vs super serious overprotective Hana (and there is a reason for it if you read ahead). There was an inkling of this aspect in chapter 0 when she pulled Junna over from the rude bumper guy.

Lemon and Sou are also cute, I wonder if they are aware of Junna's true identity at least Lemon is aware enough of how nonchalant Junna is with the whole magicial girl procedure.

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I wonder how she'll turn around this time but it was basically a long time coming since she has been coasting on everything so far, while we got some setup for the relationships of the side characters.

Tanasumi
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drunk Mizuena~

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I am a little excited to see how this will all play out with Yoshida. The chapter with Aoi hit me quite hard with the ambiguous tragedy that I am curious to find out how it transpire when she does confront her over her disappearance/death.

There is also the case with Yoshida's mother since it's brought up at the beginning of the chapter. From my suspicion with how it seems so far, either Yoshida's mother will essentially save her daughter from the death flag and the events that transpire will also somehow allow Yoshida to sort of let Konoha go or vice-versa if there is a hit ordered on Yoshida for Konoha.

((The save here just means that either Yoshida reunite with her mother and bows out or that her mother turns out to be the antagonist of the arc revealing to have been the one who ordered the hit on her father, dies to Konoha, and Yoshida just decides to go away from it all))

Or she does end up dying to Konoha likely marking a tone shift for either the rest of the series or just the next two chapters.

Tanasumi
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I guess you could interpret this as nature and time screwing with civilization.

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Junna form has never been seen by anyone (Except for her pink hair waifu who obviously knows...I am going to be shock and surprised if pinky doesn't actually know her waifu's true identity...All the text and their interaction plus author text dialog implies they both know)

I wanted to ask eariler if Hane knew about who Juuna is, and for what it's worth the series has kept this aspect pretty vague at first but Chapter 4 seems to confirm that Hana knows. I only just realized the dialogue throughout page 4 of that chapter was between the two OLs.

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Mizuena~