Ada tries to fix things; breaks things in a weird way. Rather than leaning into being a villain, she should just say she was a stupid kid before.

That said, I wonder if it would be more convincing to claim she had a prophetic vision of the ruin that will come to them if things stay the way they are? He seems gullible enough for that.

Probably better to be straightforward and not open up the possibility he doesn't take the "no" firmly enough. Better not to make it seem like she would be with him, if not for some complication.

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I miss this

100%. It ends with 3 volumes but it seems like no one is willing to pick it back up. It's a great series.

I think this one started off fine, but the 'sleepover' has wrecked the pacing.

Just go to sleep and it'll be over when you wake up...maybe.

These characters are very interesting. Their backgrounds and opposed viewpoints mean their interactions are always full of energy. Very good and unconventional setup. The fact that some people are put off is expected and par for the course when you make something with its own distinct personality--something Usui is familiar with. Swings like this can't please everyone and if they do, that typically signals something a bit bland. Like in many good stories, these characters aren't my "friends" but I can't wait to see how they navigate their situations. So many places this can go. Very nice from Usui.

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Sometimes I wonder if they truly expect the audience to be able to empathize being in love with your sister. I at least am fully incapable of that. I've got a big sister, I've got a little sister, I've got a step sister, and I've got childhood friends as close as sisters, and absolutely none of them are remotely on the table for considering attraction. Even as a sexual minority there's still hundreds of millions of fish in the sea so there's not even any temptation, it's a concept that never would have occurred to me to think about without it happening in fiction. I could sorta get it in VC Andrews's "Flowers in the Attic" since they were locked up together and didn't see literally any other people, but that's not the case here or in the vast majority of cases, so why? Does the author just think it's a universal emotion we can relate to or what?

Sometimes it feels more nefarious than that. Sometimes it feels as though there are yuri authors who think "I'm writing about taboo/"abnormal" subjects anyway, so why not?" And the potential for that has always rubbed me the wrong way. Then when I hear the way certain authors talk about their series it also puts me off from time to time.

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I'm just here to find out what the author is planning in the end

I hope it completely derails and they introduce something crazy, like an alien invasion.

Great. Now, I'll be disappointed if that doesn't happen. Thanks.

I'll skip and come back at chapter 60, hopefully they left the room by then.

You're an optimistic person.

As of June 2024 Citrus has sold 4 million copies in 16 volumes (1.9 million just from Japan alone) and according to the most recent numbers we have, is the second best selling yuri manga. Only behind Saki and above Yuru Yuri

I can get debating quality but Citrus is clearly very popular to this day. The other stuff is more interesting to me. For example, I love seeing 2DK and Fuzoroi no Renri up there. For some reason I forget how popular Murcielago is every now and then.
Nobody doubts that citrus is popular, I'm the first to "criticize" but I'm still here. Those data that you have provided are wonderful, but they also continue to talk about the past (in my humble opinion) because Treats citrus and citrus+ as a whole, when here we are talking about citrus+, not the original series. It would be interesting to see sales data separating the original series, and citrus+, as two series Independent (even if they are not). The reality is that one year we have only had one episode of citrus+ and history (in my opinion) has taken a bassoon. The future will.If you don't publish and months and months go by without information, and if you don't give something "attractive" to the reader, in the end people will end up getting tired. Greetings

Citrus+ has sold great. Also, this particular thread of the convo did start with someone questioning the series' popularity. Everything was in response to that.

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As of June 2024 Citrus has sold 4 million copies in 16 volumes (1.9 million just from Japan alone) and according to the most recent numbers we have, is the second best selling yuri manga. Only behind Saki and above Yuru Yuri

I can get debating quality but Citrus is clearly very popular to this day. The other stuff is more interesting to me. For example, I love seeing 2DK and Fuzoroi no Renri up there. For some reason I forget how popular Murcielago is every now and then.

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Average asexual

I don't understand why they're being seen as deranged, they're pretty aware that what they're into would be considered weird by the majority. Unhealthy? Yeah, Azuki's attachment to the body of someone that she met and separated from ages ago isn't exactly healthy and only got exacerbated by her being isolated socially and having nobody to talk to about it up until now, but there's nothing "deranged" about being attracted to dolls, plushies or a specific body type...
The "problem" really is only how being obsessed with it could impact her negatively and it makes sense for her to react like that when her space is being invaded by something outer to her world for the first time ever and it's all new to her.
Maybe I'm understanding the use of the word wrong, but it bothered me a bit.

Also, it's cool how the Meguru doll seems to have a little pouch, that's one of the cutest parts in gynoid bodies in my opinion. I'm curious about what is Niji's fetish, I thought it was going to be mommy stuff and/or cheating but I guess not lol.

I agree. "Deranged" and "despicable" seemed very over the top to me as well because those words carry some different connotations. But opinions will vary.

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The channel of one of the producers of the anime. Funnily enough, they were also on the production committee of Watayuri

That's interesting. Thanks for the heads up.

https://x.com/_saburouta/status/1837776717609336898

Sabu came back to live just to remind us that the entire anime (in japanese obviously) can be watched for free on YT

i mean can you really live of the past with the moderate success that citrus had

What are you talking about? citrus is one the biggest series not just on YH bu of the genre itself. That is precisely why sabu is allowed to do whatever she pleases.

What's infinite channel? Never heard of them before but that's cool.

its just me or the controlling manager is kinda creepy. Unless she is a minor but he couldnt get a job if its a minor

What do you mean? There's nothing creepy about her

Oh lord!
I finally understand this scene now!
The idol has no privacy at all, even in her own room!
Her manager just entered the room as she pleases!
Wow, just wow.

Mind you, she was also in the middle of masturbating under the covers. The manager snuck up on her in the middle of that.

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Super cute! Think I saw this a bit ago but forgot about it. Glad it got translated. Looking for more from this author in the future. Good debut!

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Makes sense. I'm pretty sure I read a long analysis comment on Mangadex where she was called "Natsume" over and over again. I thought about saying something but it felt a bit rude to reply to such a high effort comment with "It's Nanase" :P

Now this makes me feel like I'm missing something too. It's still correct to refer to people by their surname right?

Is that her surname? Nobody ever addresses her by that so I don't even know it. I couldn't tell you Fuuko or Yuni's surnames either.

Edit: Fuuko was called "Taki" and Yuni "Asahina" in the most recent chapter, but I don't know when the last time Nanase was referred to by her surname.

It's her family name. You can search her up. Addition: It's not used often, but that's likely because they are all her friends.

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Wow that seems mean spirited from one or several workers at Flapper...

Their modus operandis is:
1- get an author with a fresh idea
2- don't promote the work whatsoever
3- complain about the lack of sales over the new series and kick the mangaka out the door
4- (???)
5- go back to 1

You're missing: then blame the failure on the fresh idea and make sure the next series we support is even more unoriginal. Plus some other steps.

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Man, every chapter of this is a lot of fun. It's been building and building as well. We're reaching some big moments soon.

From Inee's tweets, the main issue seem to be lack of exposure, which thankfully the scanlators rectified.
Pretty shitty on the publisher's part to leave all the marketing to the mangaka, especially a newbie one.

That's nearly always the main issue and part of why it's misleading to assume a story's axing is because of quality. In my experience, it's primarily about lack of marketing and finding an audience, first. It can become a game of luck. Similar issues on Webtoon, for example.

Authors have to do nearly all their own marketing and also hope their initial release isn't drowned out. It's probably exacerbated by having these manga judged by local physical sales.

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If you're on each other's mind all day even without seeing each other, you might have caught something. Also, they both got surprises for one another at the festival. Can't wait to see what. Lastly, Hirose is a champ. I guess Takamine was both the "brother," and the "prince" at once.

Also, good god the longing between these two lovebirds ! They need a day long date ASAP, even Takamine is feeling it, as dense as she is.

Right? Love was on every page without needing a word said about it. Very intimate, and clearly so, without needing to actually be "intimate." And if it wasn't clear enough, the conversation with Hirose puts it over the top. The whole series has been like that but especially this chapter.

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Well another major element effecting my opinion is I simply want you to be wrong.

I'd be quite disappointed if this went the violence/abuse route because I'd just rather this story not go that dark.

I hope Nanase will apologize for her angry outburst because that was obviously out of line and she should immediately realize that.

Well, she did just grab and slam her friend into a wall out of anger, so the violent outburst is already here and tied to her growing frustrations. But I do agree that it can go either way at this point, regarding the race.

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double checked last chapter, Yuni wasn't even standing out of place when Nanase hit her. She was exactly where she was supposed to be, and Nanase should have been running in a different lane, since judging by the hair of the girl who told Yuni to get ready, Yuni and Nanase are on different teams. there's no reasonable way for Yuni looking at Fuuko to lead to a collision. I think it's actually possible Nanase kneed Yuni's leg on purpose in anger over seeing her checking out Fuuko, possibly not expecting the result to be so bad, since she seems genuinely surprised/worried in the immediate aftermath.

That's interesting, especially since Fuuko drew attention to how unlikely that crash was this chapter and Nanase didn't have much of a comeback except to stare her down.

last edited at Sep 19, 2024 3:18PM

Hahahah, Fuuko telling Yuni :

"...

but you're also an incorregible idiot who makes bad decisions."

No lie was said!!!

And she said a mama "punishes" naughty girls...so when will we get a chapter showing Mama Fuuko "punishing" her?

Things will be even more interesting. If she was using a fine nail before, she's about to take out the hammer now. The way she goaded Nanase and the discussion about actively leading Yuni. "Mommy" makes sense. I enjoy how the author has made this drama "fun," especially since we can feel how much she enjoys writing it based on her afterwards.

last edited at Sep 19, 2024 2:58PM

This is amazing. Everything is set up so well. Can't wait for the next one.

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Maybe burden's the wrong word? She just thinks of her as like a little sister she has to take care of. Which is fine, she doesn't resent her for that, but she doesn't see it as a source of strength either.

This isn't really the case either, but if you haven't read passed the manga there's not much to say; although even at the current place of the manga, I wouldn't agree with your statement. A large part of what stands out about Adachi to Shima are those quirks she has. They likely wouldn't be together, or as close, without those quirks. Shima says as much a few times, directly and indirectly.

last edited at Sep 19, 2024 7:46AM

Been nearly 5 months since the last chapter. Anyone know when we might get an update?

It was on a long pause but has resumed since last month. That must be part of why there was a delay at first. Can't say why there's a delay now though.

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