The recent chapters are still he/him or else just say Mogu-chan.

Is this manga an accurate representation of non-binary people?

No, Mogu is never referred to with gender neutral pronouns or makes any claim that he/they prefers the "he" that is used throughout, though considering how they feel about masculinity would pretty likely use something neutral and speak up on the matter as everyone using "him" around them (mogul's boyfriend included) obviates it a lot.

Bioessentialism is some terf shit

What the hell kind of zankyou no terror bullshit is about to happen?

Someone, please, anyone, photoshop the Jojo to be continued on the bottom there.

It could even work for the end of this chapter too.

Oof ouch owie "fetish"

Nikaidou likes having it both ways based on other chapters, Tadokoro, too.

I've never denied that this isn't relatable to GNC gay men, but that can be true at the same time as it being transphobic.

You dismiss my experience (I am nonbinary), I dismiss yours, right? Re zero is one example in a long list of media where that is the case, and I stated as such. Nothing in the manga says "I am GNC gay guy/teenager", I can only extrapolate from years of this type of content that made me feel shitty/I used to beat myself up with in the ol gender closet where the manga (h-manga or not) asserts that no matter what you do to look like your gender, if you've got a dick or there's the authorial injection of "I'm a boy though" the media communicates that gender is an impossible barrier to cross.These characters are still bound by masculinity. Do you not see how that hurts for someone who still gets treated as a guy when they aren't that. Good for fuckin you if your experiences aren't shit on by the subculture, I wish mine weren't, I wish things were better represented, but in not gonna naively pretend that this author is actually woke for some highly implausible reason and wants to portray the nuance of gender identity vs gender expression. The language and portrayal just doesn't match that at all, and if anything is absurd here, it's that ideation. It's not comedy surrounding gnc people, its comedy BECAUSE there are GNC people, it's literally the premise.

Ok cool keep letting transphobic shit stew and proliferate in its classic, insidious way. Just uncritically consume media without realizing or acknowledging that it is harmful to other people. Live in fantasyland where nothing is of consequence, sure.

It has only fallen out of favor with a small portion of the western fanbase, see how r/animemes mods were doxxed and swatted over the ban of the word. Hell, it was controversial when it was banned here. Otokonoko is just as porn-y and fetishistic as sh*male as tons of otokonoko stuff gets labeled as yaoi regardless of what that character identifies as.

Tr*p and otokonoko which essentially is sh*male. Dont be dense.

We're using femboy particularly because the actual words used by fans/creators of this media both in english and Japanese are slurs. Like it should be painfully obvious.

Tomboy gets used IRL in the west to be invalidating, but it's not at all the case in manga, where it's a popular archetype of romance/harem anime.

If you cant understand how often an author injects their beliefs about people into their works especially when it's been proven about the topic at hand with Re:zero, which makes some of the same jokes, then I dont think you have a leg to stand on here. It isnt a leap at all, the whole history of crossdressing jp media has been super transphobic and this series so far has learned into that.

When they are the butt of the joke, it is easy to extrapolate that the author doesnt respect trans people, it's that simple. Whether it's the "tricked you" deal, or saying "haha look how garish and obvious these guys in drag are", comedies run jokes through the whole chapterand that particular part of it is one. No one in this manga's world acts like being gay is no big deal or is there to make that clear to the audience. You're left with him being gay as the punchline. If you think crossdressing is funny, sorry that just isnt it. The author isnt going ha I'd love to put the world in drag so maybe they'd get a clue, the author uses a world in drag to laugh at the people that don't fit, don't "pass" and to mock men that are attracted to those that do.

My point on the tomboy things, is they are in a completely different universe than femboys, because of how gender works and how one is tied to a shit ton of transphobia and the other isn't.

Dude I am totally inclusive, but Japanese manga does not afford nuanced portrayal of trans and GNC cis people in any way, so what ideas do they intend to promote. Like just try and use your head to imagine what itd be like to be a trans woman in japan when all the old people hate you cause duh and all the young people hate you because the hoard of media presents you as this fetishistic fraudster. The
manga out there simply doesn't afford the nuance. It's well known Re:Zero's author is a transphobe and he pulled all the same shit with Ferris that has been the classic depiction of femboy.

These characters aren't real people, but the author's imagining of them so yes while its rude to assume and project the whole egg deal on real people, that's off the table when its fictional people and you're weighing whether the author is transphobic or relates to the character in some way regardless of their identity, theres speculaction Hemingway was trans based on correspondence and how he had his wife refer to him in the bedroom, he's long dead and lived in a time where trans people were not allowed to exist, so this speculation isnt directly harmful to anyone. Its all done in context and we ultimately afford his identity to how he's been largely referred to. When you look at the context here in manga it's hard not to see them as trans or relatable to the trans experience.

It helps that I also like tomboys, and they are really just two sides of the same coin.

Except tomboys don't bind, or use the men's room, or play on guys sports teams (for the most part) like a "femboy" would do makeup, tuck, join some all girls thing secretly, or wear much more rigidly gender-policed clothing. It's rare for their identity to be "revealed" as a gag or a trick (handsome girl was like drama associated with being misgendered and coming to grips with your sexuality, some comedy came in how her anxieties were unfounded because her gf was so madly in love.) Outside the very small yuri bubble tomboys are always portrayed as ultimately straight whereas the femboys always flirt sexually with male characters. Tomgirls in like nisekoi, Tomo-chan, and I'm sure plenty of harems vs the scads of femboys that lust after MC.

Yep, because all crossdressers are either gay, or trans.

When the author doesnt believe trans people are real, then to the author all trans people are simply "cross dressers". Acknowledge trans people and sure they can and do exist. The thing is, these characters tend to "cross dress" all the time, which falls out of the realm of what someone cis would do. Then that presentation becomes how you want other people to know you. Whether that's woman or apparent woman but also man (Genderfluid/NB) it's still a trans identity.

It's that the MC is confused because a dude is giving him a boner.

That gag is homophobic and transphobic, though. Like why is his despair of potentially being gay a funny situation? The character is presented as a trick, the whole reason tr*p is a slur.

Yeah uh, yikes, playing crossdressing for comedy almost always ends up transphobic and homophobic. closeted me ate this kinda shit up, now I just cringe/get frustrated. If a character presents, thinks, acts in a particular, single gendered deal different from their assigned sex except for when they go "haha i'm boye/gurl gottem xDDDDD" or to assert a rigid gender binary every so often, it is really hard not to read that as anything but a trans character written by a transphobe to say that, despite everything someone may do, they can't change their gender. There isnt the nuance or thought entertained that "hey, I present this way but I dont identify as binary-trans person, and am nonbinary or just masc." You're assuming the content respects those identities when it doesn't, so you interpret what's given at face value.

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The head on the shoulder into shouting match, call that the tsundere true combo.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say they will quickly become great friends. Gal pals, even

I understand that this will probably go the Poly route (and I hope there's going to be a love-making chapter).

BUT, in my heart of hearts, I hope Mayuki falls hard for Rin in a monogamy.

Everything points towards polyamory, which doesn't get told all too often, and its sweet too, not at all a novelty.

Eh, single target sexuality may be my least favorite trope in yuri

sameee ugh

Nonbinary rights

Time to update this with the last two volumes, I think.

With so many characters and about 4.5 years from first chapter to last, I can't always recall who they are or what their circumstances were. And it's a pain to have to reread the entire thing.

As before, I welcome suggestions, constructive criticism. Where chapters appear in parentheses, the relationships between those characters play a prominent side role. This is not intended as a comprehensive list of chapters in which each character appears but rather for use if you want to follow the arc of a particular relationship.

Shiramine Ayaka x Kurosawa Yurine (main couple)
1, 2, 5, 6.5, 11, 11.5, (12, 15, 18), 19.5, 22, 23, (25.1), 31, 32, 35, 36, 40, 43, 44, 46*, 47*, 48*, 49, 50*
* These later chapters revisit many of the side couples as Shiramine explores her feelings.

Senoo Mizuki x Nikaidou Moe (track)
3, 4, 16, 16.2, 17*, 20, 20.5, (46)
* alt-17 (pages 13-19)

Uehara Ai, Hoshino Maya, Kusakabe Chiharu, Akidzuki Izumi (stars and bicycle)
(5), 6, 7*, 8, 9, 10, 10.5, 25.5, 26, 27, (48)
* alt-7 (pages 6-9)

Ooshiro Yukina x Mita Towako (garden club)
12, 13, 14, 15, 15.1, (47)

Shikama Momiji, Machida Kaoru, Inoue Kohagi (unrequited, triangle)
18 (MK only), 19

Nishikawa Itsuki x Itou Sawa (childhood promise / photography)
21, 24, 25, 25.1, 30.5, 48

Hiruma Ryou, Asakura Amane, Yuunagi Nina (poly)
28, 29, 30, 35.5

Aoi Haine x Yukimura Aika (age-gap/incest)
(31, 32), 33, 34, (47)

Tatsumi Nagisa x Torayama Hikari (student council)
37, 38, 39, v8 Omake

Hagidzuki (aka Hagimoto Mikaze) x Asuna (aka Sakurada Asuka) (cosplay)
41, 42*, 45, v9 Omake, (48)
* Includes cameos from Shiramine and Machida Kaoru

Multiple Pairings
Valentine's - 15.5, 40.5
Internet Shorts
Omake:
- Volume 6: Flower Garden
- Volume 7: Looking For

Relationship Chart

Much appreciated. Only thing is the relationship chart is off, pretty much ever pairing/thruple is a committed romantic relationship save for haine's and student presidents.

^ hate make out sesh, they're still in high school... which could lead into something left to your imagination.

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