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tl;dr: Like everyone said, Shinobu is just wistful and feeling nostalgic. She's not a pedophile.

I honestly never thought she was pedophilic personally. I though it was actually fairly clear why she was feeling the way she was.

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Aaaaaaand we're back to square one

Damn.

Not quite though. They both actually realize they like the other. They simply don't realize that the other likes them back. So it's more like square one but with a door over to the side hidden in the shadows that turns out to be a shortcut to square ten or so. All they need is an illuminating light to show them the door.

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Mama Mama discussion 25 Jan 03:58
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This reminds me of Wedding Bells Are Ringing in a way. I'll just assume it's a situation like that taken to a slightly more extreme point because I'm really not a big fan of cheating at all.

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Should I wait for all three parts to be translated? I'm not quite sure if it's worth starting now and then having to wait and to read everything again because it's been forever.

Both of the two that have been translated are reasonably self contained. Enough so that you could read them a fair bit apart and not really miss much, if anything.

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"I can't be your girlfriend because I like cute things"

Well if this isn't the dumbest premise for a not-intentionally-over-the-top doujin then I don't know what is. It wasn't bad, but jeez does it not make sense.

I think you're misunderstanding the reason for saying that. She says that because the girls who ask her out are asking her out due to the stereotypical all-girls school romance deal where it's playing at love so those girls are wanting a prince, not someone who is into girly things like that.

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what's up with these long paragraphs lol

It's called discussion. Surprisingly some people have more than one sentence to say on a given subject. Weird, huh?

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The other statement doesn't account for the fact that she never hurt anybody. He was not hurt by her. They only people who put the hurt on others were him and his classmates on her and then later on his classmates mobbing him. And both situations were one-sided with one side hurting the other. There is nothing reciprocal about it as "We hurt each other" suggests. "We hurt you" would be a concession that is not self-exculpatory and I find it incredibly lachrymose to tell her that he, too, was hurt. At best that is totally uninteresting to her. Why should she care?

I actually took that "we hurt each other" bit to refer to the fight there near the end though having another look I think I misinterpreted that bit. I think that could be taken as victim blaming in the vein of " if it weren't for my actions related to bullying you then I wouldn't have ended up in such a shitty situation" which is somewhat understandable (not justified however) since he got the full blame for the bullying dumped on him by others who were about as bad and on top of that they started bullying him too which would of course only serve to warp his perception of the situation.

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Frankly, all of those people should just go die because the world would be a MUCH BETTER PLACE without people like them. Even the MC who became nice in the end AND tried to own up to his wrongs at the time doesn't deserve forgiveness since he was the worst while she was still protecting his feelings. In fact, the deaf girl deserves acceptance into sainthood for all they did while the rest of her classmates simply deserved a very early death!

If someone has legitimately realized they've made a mistake and want to make up for it there is no reason to not allow them a chance other than to be petty.

I'm not too sure how to feel about the ending as I don't think the male MC learned anything from it and his explanation that everything happened because "You suffered because no one could hear your voice" and "All we did was hurt each other. We never used our voices." smacks of victim blaming as he turns her into the person who started it and from a victim to a culprit and himself into a victim of her actions. Especially the latter can only refer to her not picking up her soaked notebook, the abuse he suffered by the hands of his classmates and their fight in the hallway.

I really don't get how that's victim blaming at all. He's not saying she was at fault for it. He was saying that because she couldn't actually talk and because no one else was willing to use the notebook there was a huge lack of communication. It's clear he thinks that the classmates are the ones completely at fault for it. (And the teacher doesn't look to be remotely innocent either.)

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Agreed! To a typical 14-year-old girl, even love is new and all, let alone same sex love.

And it would be even more difficult for her to work through if her environment or culture is generally not accepting of homosexual relationships as well.

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By the way, I can't get close to cigarette smoke since it gives me both a sore throat and a headache.

I would hate this since I've lived with smokers my entire life. (Not a smoker myself though, not that I would need to be...)

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I really hate Ayu, the kind of bitch that neither eats nor allows others to eat. Or more like... she didn't know what she had until she lost it, I just hate her!!!!

This is really harshly put and doesn't show a lot of understanding of the situation. Maybe Ayu did bring it upon herself but she's a teenage girl who just entered high school. You can't honestly expect her to be able to sort through her feelings easily in this sort of case. Even at the end of this first chapter she doesn't seem to realize exactly how she feels about Hitsuji other than that she's a good friend who she doesn't want to lose. Which is exactly the reason she shot Hitsuji down in the first place. All of this stuff happening is going to end up forcing her to very carefully consider her relationship with Hitsuji and whether she really just wants to be friends or if she feels the same about Hitsuji as Hitsuji did about her. (And if that is the case whether Hitsuji still feels the same or not.)

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One thing I noticed.
When you navigate to some specific page in the middle of chapter - via direct URL, for example - you still load the first page of the chapter.

I think that's due to whatever method they're using to load the pages. The pages are loaded as an ID in the URL (the same idea as clicking a link in the table of contents on a Wikipedia page if you're unfamiliar with the concept) so they're probably using javascript to load and unload the images so it would always load the first one if you follow a direct link.

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LOVE/DEATH discussion 14 Jan 08:56
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I love how they go from psycho to ultra cute in two seconds.

That only serves to make the adorable moments that much cuter in my opinion, lol.

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LOVE/DEATH discussion 09 Jan 13:16
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I like the way this is going, it's actually surprisingly adorable.

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Aw, come on. So much for a happy ending.
I guess this is probably realistic of pesophiles though. .-.

Damned pesophiles molesting Mexican money.

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Not the first manga I should (re)read in the morning.

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Smile Maker discussion 07 Jan 05:15
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This was confusing. I though the girl at the start was supposed to be the protagonist, but the perspective switches to Sakura after a few pages.

Manga, no, really, any story operates on a first come first served basis. The first character that gets introduced, narrates, starts a monologue, or does anything to face the readers, automatically becomes the protagonist of the story. Introducing a side character first, that has no important role, especially in a short story like this? That just doesn't work really well, I still wanted to root for her, even though I realized she isn't gonna be the love interest.

I don't disagree that maybe it was a bad idea for a short one-shot like this but consider something like Madoka where Homura is at least as important a character (if not more so since she's the one who set everything in motion and is directly the reason Madoka ended up with so much potential) as Madoka but if the show was from Homura's perspective then it wouldn't have the same pacing and would reveal a lot of things far too quickly.

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Agree with everyone, this seems to have ended about three pages too soon. Hana-san doesn't seem like the sort of shallow, awful person who'd abandon the person who literally changed her life and in many ways saved her. II doubt she would have just kept going with her new friends and never looked back.

I think the problem is more one of those teenage revelation deals where they realize they're actually not as important to the world at large as they thought. Hana-san definitely seems to be the sort that you said and the main character (I forget her name, it's been awhile since I actually read this one) would probably realize that if she took a minute to think about it.

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I am a social progressive and maintain that taboo is societal construction that shouldn't govern your love life... that aside I personally think that I would be unable to be with a person not dedicated to me, and I wouldn't be able to dedicate myself to more than one person

My aunt is in a relationship like that. She has a husband and a boyfriend. We talked about it a bit when she stayed the night after a cross-country trek to take her daughter to pick up the daughter's kids and bring them back here before driving back to Los Vegas. For some reason plenty of our family will have nothing to do with her now despite the fact it doesn't affect them in the slightest. My opinion on it though? I'd never be comfortable in a relationship like that. That doesn't mean it's wrong for someone else to be in one so long as everyone involved is fine with it. Is it weird? Sure, if you consider anything too out of the ordinary weird. Is it wrong though? Not at all so long as no one ends up getting hurt because of it.

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Good non-yuri manga 31 Dec 20:35
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Anything by Junji Ito is great for the horror genre. Gyo, Uzamaki, Black Paradox, Hellstar Remina (a bit lighter on the horror side of things but still really interesting), Mimi's Ghost Stories, and the Tomie one-shots are all great. A lot of his one-shots are actually really interesting.

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Citrus discussion 28 Dec 17:52
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I would also think that scanlators should drop this title, as it has been licensed.

From what I've seen, what will probably happen is that Dynasty will just remove access to anything that has been actually released. Whether the group drops it or not is completely up to them. They could very well continue though since it may be awhile before the licensed version catches up to the Japanese version. (Which usually happens when the Japanese version wraps things up.)

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Forum Rules 25 Dec 15:42
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Per Dunning-Kruger, the more you think you're not an idiot, the more likely you are to be an idiot.

What's it mean if you don't think you're not an idiot but you also don't think you're an idiot either?

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Forum Rules 25 Dec 00:27
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it's quite saddening that these sounds like common sense that everyone should already know.

Bafflingly, in my experience at least, even simple rules like this somehow aren't common sense to a lot of people and I've commonly seen people surprised when they get in trouble for breaking these sorts of rules. And I don't mean from people who are new to the internet either.

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Append Disc discussion 24 Dec 16:13
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How is Luka older than Miku (top of page 4) when just two pages earlier it was established Luka was a newer model and Miku was the one who welcomed her?

Maybe she means that despite being a newer model Luka was made to be a more mature model than her? Kinda hard to actually explain but I think that's probably what the author meant there. Or it was simply an error, lol.

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We're still at a point where it's tough to show that stuff in animation.

Which is extremely moronic when you consider most places in Europe and the US either have gay marriage or are pushing for it under the reasoning that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay.