last two banners, unlike the first two, Sungji has these weird gazes that are not very consistent with the currently portrayed personality.

however, the interpretations could be totally irrelevant.. since their banner (the one where all of the three are dressed in black) till now can not fit into what is going on.

last edited at Mar 13, 2017 3:19PM

in many of ur comments you are actually confirming rather than defying:

One line or two more about Sungji being perceptive, please, I really don't remember anything about it at all.

at the very beginning, she was able to know that Sumin was living alone,

She said she saw the electricity's invoices, water supply's invoices, etc, were sent to Sumin's workplace, that's the reason why she got that idea. But really, all of those things from my house were always sent to my father's shop, my father was not living alone in our house. When I moved to live with my brother, all of the invoices from his house were also sent to my brother's workplace, not the house. Using Sungji's perception, you would guess that my farther and my brother are living alone, which is false.

she said the Laundry was sent always to the office.. since it is not a clear definite sign and yet she was able to infer something correctly out of it means that she is indeed perceptive .

ch24, she got immediately that Sumin lacks frankness

Sumin hasn't been honest with her since the beginning, not to mention she almost got eaten alive by Sumin several times, yet she just found out about Sumin lacking of frankness in chapter 24.

she did not mean like that, if she took it as it was, then she would only think that all Sumin wanted was sex.. but she did not

again, bed talk in ch 46..

If you were talking about when Sungji was asking if she could ask Sumin everything, then Sumin paused a bit, and she then realized that Sumin couldn't agree with that. I personally think you don't necessarily need to be perceptive to read that kind of situation.

asking this question by itself means she knew the answer before hand.. when Sumin came to Sungji home city.. Sungji knew that she would not ask much bcz Sumin would only be on more guards.

ch51conversation..

She said Sumin had given her her heart, yet in the chapter where she caught Sumin cheating, she said Sumin was always ready to leave her. That was a huge contradiction, wasn't it? Did she really ever understand Sumin?

Sumin does love her.. just not earnestly.

was able to remember Seju's house code before she knew she would need it

She went back to Seju house again to bring Seju some medicines because Seju didn't have those in her house. There's no way she could know that she would need Seju's house password later since she couldn't possibly know about Seju having no medicine before entering the house and asking Seju if she had some.

AND that's exactly what shows that she is indeed perceptive .. she remembered an info. without even knowing when it will be needed.. then uses that info again

then later, ch55 she kinda knew that Sumin was uneasy.

I'm not sure what happened in chapter 55.

the walk to the Bus

but I agree with what you are implying, there is not much given about what Sungji is or how she thinks.. that by itself could play a part on any left plot twists

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being depressed is not an excuse .. she seemed to be dense even before any of that happened ( looking at the flashbacks)
add to that , Seju is even waaaaay more depressed compared to Summin.. she has suicidal attitude even.

and seriously how dense would you be that u will date an engaged woman without noticing anything !
she did not even notice herself being recorded by Glasses-ssi who almost outed her and Sungji!!

Seju on the other hand would catch immediately if Summin is thinking of something and what it would be.. even if Sumin denies it (it happened over and over again) ..
yet, it beyond me that Seju did not know for sure that Sumin still loved her all that time.

I remembered a thing about Sungji as well, when she lost her ring at Seju's .. why did not she say where she was exactly and where she lost the ring frankly to Summin if she did not expect Sumin's reaction if she knew .. or was there another reason we don't know about YET

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One line or two more about Sungji being perceptive, please, I really don't remember anything about it at all.

at the very beginning, she was able to know that Sumin was living alone,
ch24, she got immediately that Sumin lacks frankness
again, bed talk in ch 46..
ch51conversation..
was able to remember Seju's house code before she knew she would need it
then later, ch55 she kinda knew that Sumin was uneasy.
......

Sumin being clueless is frustrating !

she fails to read ppl, specially Seju.. then end up making huge mistakes.. like hell, Nammi could play her around and she would have no clue

Seju on the other hand feels what Sumin is feeling or whether she is distracted even in bed.. ch 14 .. she is mega perceptive !
my god, in ch 47 when she saw right through Nammi

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^
she is, even Nammi was surprised.
it shows when she sometimes talks to Sumin.

the most perceptive character tho is Seju, who would know Nammi's motives and Sumin mood so easily
(any interaction between Nammi and Seju brings hell a lot of enjoyment.. bcz I could feel the atmosphere and the tension )

the clueless character is Sumin .. how thick can she be !

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Team Gaji finished his broadcast QandA. I hope we can hear about it soon and find some translation.

I would luv to know what they discussed , if you know korean plz let us know

this is the blog I found
http://m.blog.naver.com/team_gaji/220954009696

it looks weird also bcz of Sungj's gaze .. and for the first time Seju is touching Sungji.
tomorrow there will be Q & A with Team Gaji at 9 p.m (Seoul Time ) .. but dunno if we would see a translation for that

last edited at Mar 9, 2017 4:26PM

Aren't we getting lewd here?? Xd lol

a proof that this manhwa turns lesbians on XD

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Nah, don't think it's a bodyguard, she's suspicious. Last time Seju's bro hurt Sumin himself, this time maybe he hired someone. And even if it won't be scarring 2.0, it still can be a kidnapping, beating etc. One way or another she's connected to Seju fam.

I hope Seju's huge boobs will work against any bullets or daggers XD

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Nora89 - I think something will happen. It might be scarring 2.0 (this woman in black gives me bad vibes). Wouldn't mind a bit of such drama. It would be like a breath of fresh air combined with some action and maybe, just maybe, it'd force Seju to work with Sungji.

I don't think it will be another scarring, Seju made it clear to her brother not to intervene.. and I don't think his father will keep him out of the jail this time.

the women at the end of the chapter has appeared before, Seju saw her, but did not comment in ch 66 .. I don't even have a guess of whats going on

maybe just a bodyguard hehehehe

have u noticed that Seju's driver does not drive her home.. is she paranoid of her family knowing where she lives ?

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Nora89

I actually don't see how a person like Sumin who is dealing with depression will just instantly fell head over heels in love to someone she barely knew. she let her guard down so easily because Sungji likes her? I would have let this pass if Sumin didn't have a sex galore with different girls.

I guess Sungji's VJJ has some magical healing powers that instantly cures Sumin's depression when she insert her fingers into it xD that is the only theory I can come up with.

feeling safe is crucial in Sumin's case and her willingness to love someone again that she will maybe finally stop comparing to Seju. she is not scared of Sungji playing with a guy then dealing with consequences (the red head case.. that was built in ch 34).
not asking so much questions is also comforting in her case and introverted personality.

yet, Seju is Sumin's family and everything.. so no matter how Sungji will be, it is not like Seju will be out of the picture completely

on the other hand, we would argue what Sungji finds in Sumin, why taking all that shit when its luv from the first sight and highly lusty.

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well, Sumin inner thought was:
" I'm miserable about the fact that I'm scared of this emotion" ..
of course she would not open up that easily .. Sungji knows that, and respects it. if you read ch41 dialogue, and again the bed talk in ch46.. she asks Sumin if she could really ask about anything..

being comfortable and in love with someone does not necessarily mean she would open up to Sungji.. even Nammi does not know very much about wt happened neither does Summin think about it.. she pretend all that did not happen
and thus later in ch 50 admits to herself that she still have feelings for Seju

only after Sungji caught them, Sumin said that her situation with Seju is not just friendship.. finally she told Sungji that.. (it seemed all characters told her about Sumin x Seju except Sumin herself hehehe)
will we see Sumin open up more? .. that girl avoided dealing with her emotions with Seju for 10 years.. unless something major happened, she would just keep it to herself. if Sungji tries to push Sumin more for opening up, it will only cause Sumin to feel uneasy and even more defensive.

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Kami-Sama

I am not worked up really.. but I find it a little weird.. given the way you stated it !.. makes me doubt you meant Make-Maka by your statement.

if the artist wanted to appeal to men that much, they could have pulled some other tricks and slowed down the drama going on.
+
they are 34 and one is 24 .. you don't really wonder around a feeling for another 16 years. (I highly appreciate them sparing us the orientation discovery B.S!)

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who is the main demographic target of WDTFS? imo, this manhwa appeals more to men more than lesbians. the lack of storytelling and abundance of sex scenes makes me want to put this into that category.

wow! totally disagree.. I don't think men are into all this lesbian drama, there are lighter options to get to see all the lesbian kinks compared to this particular manhwa .. and for the sex scenes, what ? don't lesbian have feelings and desires too? we get so lewd too, and if in shape, we would scissor YES.. it not for men .. but for us
finally a freaking Yuri that has a story that
1- not set in a school
2- not about sexual orientation discovery !
3- all women are adult and don't look like animals or cute little girls

is it really so bad that women are comfortable with their sexuality u started to think its for men ?
ever since I started reading it .. I could feel that only women made it and for women..

and the story telling is lacking !! wow .. that's why we reached 211 pages of discussion.. bcz there is no story huh
all these flashbacks and attention to details and even the body language was made randomly to please men.. oh right!!!
not every explicit content is directed for men !

I know some people like the lightness of FF manhwa, if you were comparing like some reviews do.. but I truly can't call the two main characters lesbians..

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I was thinking of a threesome.. but that's me being perverted at 2:00 a.m !

its the first time the artist put a banner when Seju is touching Sungji instead of Summin .. WTH

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

Where does this question come from? lol I guess this is a rhetorical question asked just to imply that buying things for your lover is common?

yup it is.. I happen to buy my long term girlfriend all sort of fancy and normal gifts as long as I could.. even though we had a horrible period between us, still would grant her everything I know she would like. its luv.. so I pretty much relate.. and its not out of a desire to control her.. I just want her to be comfortable.
and u know... It makes me so freaking happy when she likes my gifts and accepts them.. I could tell you that maybe I do it because it makes me happy (maybe more than she is hehehe dont know !)

would you not grant your person their wishes ??

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Seju has been buying Sumin things since before they broke up. That's just a way rich people normally do towards their lovers.

have you ever been in love with someone so much that u feel compiled to fulfil their wishes even without them asking.. even if u r not that rich

I can not believe that some adults still find the urgent need to classify ppl into good and bad .. black and white!

I've been reading an analysis by @FoxyLady which was very interesting, there is actually no evidence of Seju evolvement in Sumin relationship with Ms. Choi.. how careless the couple were to have sex in the coffee room ?.. same situation happened again between Sumin and Sungji that even the Glasses- Ssi had evidence ( I think recorded.. if you look at chapter 34 .. was she holding a recorder !) ..
Nammi suggested a theory but Seju did not confirm it (I can not see Seju calling the fiancé, seriously she is not that sociable ) .. but she is right.. that does not change anything.. Ms. Choi did cheat+ hided a fiancé .. does Sumin deserve the hurt in case that Seju was the one who ratted the red head out ? well, its debatable.
hehehe Sumin would Fu*k the red head with a strap-on and still imagine Seju .. and immediately ran back to Seju's arms .. they never really broke up to begin with. (they are still trying to break up.. someone please send them a break up manual )

all women in this Manhwa are adult and matured .. they know what they are doing.. the hurting and obsession is not attributed to one character than the other .. I do not even exclude Sungji.. read the chapters when she met Dawoon and the look she gave Sumin .. like she was okay to play with Dawoon giving her mixed messages and again against Seju when she knew what was going on.. till now her actions are far from innocent pure love .

another crucial point is: Sumin is scared of loving Seju (on emotional and physical level.. she almost died bcz of that .. so its not merely about her ability to forgive Seju or not ) that's why they keep this distance .. even Seju mentioned that in chapter 27.. later Seju went to the hospital to stop any possible comeback at Sumin in case she refused to follow her father demand.. (Seju herself does not know exactly the motive behind the scarring that happened to Sumin, I get this idea from her dialogue with Sumin at the hospital )

God I don't even sympathise with any character more than other.. they are like seriously Fucked up in a very human way .. broken promises, toxic relationships.. are they each other family or curse ! only adult theme that was not thrown here is drug addiction and apportion hehehehe

Let's cry a bit since they cancelled today's update !
(I've never seen any loves or kiss scene so artistically portrayed than the ones in WDTFS.. so I will be appreciating them till March 19th)

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Just because Sungji managed to make Sumin fall for her and Seju didn't, it's not a proof that Sumin tried more with Sungji. It's a proof that Gaji did a bad job to make the main couple well developed.

well, your statement is pretty harsh when we did not see Sungji POV yet,

I had been waiting to see her pov since like 50 chapters ago. No hope, so I've given up.

heheheh .. well it took 28 chapters to show us a whole conversation that took place in 27 ! everybody back then overlooked it as a random scene

the Sugar raising is both of them fault, Seju's way of expressing her love prevented Sumin from growing up and even increased her dependence on Seju it could have also resulted in an inferiority complex (that alone will damage any normal relationship) .. Seju spoiled her even before their breaking up 10 years ago.. so it's not just out of guilt.. but bcz she also lives through Sumin need for her (maybe that what she meant in last chapter)

till now it is unclear why she pushed Sungji X Sumin in such a risky move.. even if you tell me she wants Sumin to crawl back to her over and over again, still not a strong reason!

(what's up with Glasses- ssi ? I kinda missed her ) heheheh .. was that a recorder in her hand ch 34

last edited at Mar 6, 2017 2:36PM

Seju is also vulnerable, also has insecurities, also not someone who she appears to be, Seju's outer shell is a sexy, confident, independent woman, the opposite of the vulnerable, insecured, lonely 'real' Seju. When Seju loves, she also loves deeply, no, she loves with literally everything she has. That's not sth to be considered special about Sumin, cuz Seju has it all, if not more, since Seju is even more complicated.

the difference is that Sumin want's a substitution ,when Seju wants no other!

I was specifically referring to Sungji taking Sumin back very easily. Sumin literally didn't work for it at all. They just met each other and jumbed straight to bed.
Sumin might work for their relationship in the future more, but her cheating has been forgiven way too easily. Which to me seems pretty bad for many reasons.

you know, when Nammi told Sumin she slept with Seju, later Seju denies it but Sumin does not believe her at all !.. makes me rethink that Seju was truly out of conscious when she slept with the bartender (if that actually what happened) but also she did not believe her ..

Sumin personality is waaaay too unforgiven compared to Sungji who gave her a chance to apologise and explain herself many times.. I thought that will make Sumin rethink about her treatment to Seju.. but let's wait and see

IMO, I really hope to see Sumin actually losing Seju.. (not having her waiting on the side line.. it should shake her balance a bit)

last edited at Mar 6, 2017 6:43AM

Damn. I thought I could not be more upset at Sumin, but the last chapter just set the bar even lower. How could you just shamelessly asked for that ? Sure it's legal and all, but girl, please do have some EMPATHY and PRIDE.

So she wants to continue live in the house Seju bought, buy it to erase Seju name, because Sungji wants to live together in that house. Welp. I agree with Seju, she should just move out and start a new, if she does want a clean slate so badly. End of story.

She has been funded by her sugar momma for like a decade, stop being so whiny over a house name if you have any shame.

Exactly! Im curious, if she so badly want to erase all of Seju in her life, why does she want to buy the house when seju's memory is all over the house?? It doesn't make sense. It will always be a house Seju bought for her.

two possibilities that are in my mind:
1- giving Seju a chance to do something by herself to move on.
2- Sumin herself is not ready/strong enough to cut Seju completely. the house is full of memories .. she won't insist on keeping it that much unless she is afraid of letting them go.

Just because Sungji managed to make Sumin fall for her and Seju didn't, it's not a proof that Sumin tried more with Sungji. It's a proof that Gaji did a bad job to make the main couple well developed.

well, your statement is pretty harsh when we did not see Sungji POV yet,
their relationship is also driven by Sumin desire to fall in love again with another person which makes her even try harder to make it work + Sungji refusal to end things the way Seju wants.

at the same time you see clearly that Sungji knows she can't ask Sumin to open up for her (bed talk in ch46) so she knew about the two but not exactly their history.. more or less, she knew it won't be easy to have Sumin loves her earnestly without extra effort .. seeing the effort from Sumin side to fix it persuaded her to some extent.

expectation, timing, initial nature of the relationship and personalities play a big factor to how you react to cheating.

Team Gaji have this story telling style that makes me change my opinion about any character as they reveal a little more about their past or POV