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Kazu-kun
The Train discussion 24 May 00:33
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This was pretty sad...if you look at the chat log, you can also see that MC has tried to keep in touch with the ex(?) more than once, but she never got a response back (just left on read).

But this is the issue. She made a choice. She chose to leave. She has no right to expect her ex to keep in contact or wait for her or whatever. No everyone likes long-distance relationships and the MC should respect that.

last edited at May 24, 2021 12:35AM

Kazu-kun
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Definitely interested in seeing where it goes from here. But unlike others I don't want to see Maria and Dorothy split up, because then it seems unlikely we would be getting any more yuri content for a long time.

I don't want that either. It would be better if they formed their own faction or something. They could recruit Shanon and the werewolf girl too. That would be cool.

True Blood is really fishy anyway. They claim they want to punish the humans and pure blood vampires for what they did to the demi-humans, but if the werewolf girl is any indication, it doesn't seem like the demi-humans agree with their crap.

Kazu-kun
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We know that the Church is evil, now whether the Pope is lying his ass off or not, which I think he is, remains to be seen. Personally my thought are the Pope uses his daughter and becomes the final big bad.

The Church might be evil, but that doesn't mean the True Blood are good. There's a reason the werewolf girl who befriended Shanon was hunting down vampires from True Blood. That werewolf girl is probably a survivor of the demi-humans Noel was talking about, but it doesn't look like they're on friendly terms with True Blood. So either Noel is hiding something, or the True Blood didn't tell her the whole truth.

Other than that, I'm not totally convinced the pope is lying. He seems to genuinely care about Dorothy at the very least. That's the vibe I got from him a few chapters back, and it's consistent with his behavior in this chapter.

On another note, I'm curious what Maria is gonna do. The choice she has to make is not between the Church and True Blood, but between her sister and Dorothy. So it's more about where Maria's feelings are rather than who's right or wrong. That's interesting.

last edited at May 23, 2021 7:40PM

Kazu-kun
The Train discussion 23 May 15:15
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Honestly MC is better off with someone else that isn't as selfish.

If anything the MC was the selfish one. She was the one who left in the first place. She had no right to expect the other girl to wait for her or whatever.

last edited at May 23, 2021 3:16PM

Kazu-kun
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I think we’ll still have a poly end, but now it’s not looking like a slapdash “their lips touched and now they’re poly” anymore. There will probably come a time where Sayo and Rinna feel compelled to “compete” for Mei and when that arc comes to a climax that’ll be the moment Mei says “hold on who says it can’t be all three of us?” followed by some introspection and advice from out poly teachers

The teachers' relationship work because the three of them seem to love one another. Sayo and Rinna only love Mei though, and nothing Mei says will change that. I guess Mei could try to convince them to share instead of competing over her, but that would be a pretty shitty move, imo.

All in all, the poly route seem pretty unlikely, and that's probably for the better.

last edited at Apr 24, 2021 3:01AM

Kazu-kun
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There is no way this doesn't end in poly I refuse to even entertain the thought

3P rather than poly since both girls only love Mei.

Actually that's still poly!

I guess, but it's really just harem shit. It would be more interesting and grounded if all parties loved one another, like the girls from chapter 8. Not gonna happen though.

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There is no way this doesn't end in poly I refuse to even entertain the thought

3P rather than poly since both girls only love Mei.

last edited at Apr 23, 2021 11:41PM

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It's not meant to be whatever you consider "good writing." The author wrote this to vent her anger after it was made public in Japan that some prestigious medical universities were doctoring entrance exams to decrease the number of female students. According to the author's afterword at the end of volume 1, she was pretty fucking angry about this, and wrote the story to express her frustration. So it's not meant to be some balanced social commentary or whatever. It's meant as reaction to the rampant injustice that actually exists in real life.

Yeah, there's tropes for it. But angry soapboxing about something you're Mad As Hell about adds no inherent merit to the work, and puerile revenge fantasies do not particularly meet my criteria of worthwhile reading.

Revenge might not have merit to you, but if helped this person get this shit out of her chest, then it had enough merit in my book.

YMMV of course but I'd prefer my social commentary with some thought and sophistication.

Again, it wasn't really meant to be social commentary. It was just a reaction to real-life shit. If that's not enough for you, that's your problem.

last edited at Apr 20, 2021 10:23AM

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Social commentary on the shitty treatment women get at the hands of men in Japan (and globally) is arguably not common enough. People who are complaining about the men being "cartoonishly evil" should really take a step back and realize what sort of absurd shit is normally just accepted in anime/manga. Something to counter the typical sexism should be welcomed rather than dismissed.

I fail to see how Chick Tracts level of ham-fistedness is supposed to be the way to go about it.

Certainly doesn't make for good writing.

It's not meant to be whatever you consider "good writing." The author wrote this to vent her anger after it was made public in Japan that some prestigious medical universities were doctoring entrance exams to decrease the number of female students. According to the author's afterword at the end of volume 1, she was pretty fucking angry about this, and wrote the story to express her frustration. So it's not meant to be some balanced social commentary or whatever. It's just a reaction to the rampant injustice that actually exists in real life.

last edited at Apr 20, 2021 10:12AM

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Still, as fucked up and lacking in self-awareness as Hina is, I think her kind of fetishism is more 'normal' and easier to understand than Airi's. While Airi mainly wanted to see Hina hurt, disgusted, and humiliated just for the hell of it; Hina sees that stuff as secondary to her goal of making Airi 'hers.'

This so much. Hina is pretty fucked up, but Airi is definitely the shittier one of the two. Here's hoping the manga won't try to play her out as some sort of victim now. That would be disappointing.

Kazu-kun
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So this is their fourth reincarnation... is this after or before the events of Kannazuki no Miko?

Neither. This is not related to Kannazuki no Miko. In the Kannazuki lore, the girls are priestesses to a god called Ame no Murakumo. No matter how many times they reincarnate, they always serve Ame no Murakumo.

In the Himegami no Miko lore, on the other hand, the girls are priestesses to a different god, called Oumikami. Basically, you should take Himegami no Miko as an alternate universe which doesn't have any connection to Kannazuki no Miko. It just happens to have similar characters, that's all.

last edited at Apr 10, 2021 12:00PM

Kazu-kun
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While Kase's reaction to the scene with the Prince giving Yamada a huge amount of flowers was a bit over the top, the fact that Yamada had not been responding to Kase's messages on Line all day, especially right near when Kase showed up when she was leaving campus and heading to her apartment or her work and wasn't busy working with flowers, is a problem.

I disagree. Yamada was busy taking classes and also getting ready for this event her school is prepping with the Prince and the other dude. It's clearly a huge event and Yamada is super busy. If Kaze wasn't so freaking oblivious to anything but her own needs, she would have noticed this and wouldn't be sending Yamada messages when she's busy. She only got herself to blame for all this.

In fact, you can see how inconsiderate of others she is when she starts asking her sick roommate for relationship advise. Kaze is totally self-absorbed. It's all about her and her needs. And she's the same in her relationship with Yamada.

And why exactly is this TV personality giving these flowers to Yamada in the first place?

It's most likely related to the event they're setting up. Nothing strange about it.

last edited at Mar 31, 2021 10:30PM

Kazu-kun
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I thought Nacchan loved Kyouko and would've wanted to go out with her, but I guess there was stuff holding her back

It's not said as explicitly as in many others, but it's the usual stuff, isn't it? Societal pressure to create a "family unit", having stable employment, etc. She missed because she was scared, and later, she hit also because she was scared/already committed to this path and didn't want to feel like sacrificing Kyouko was meaningless.

I think you're missing the real issue here. Kyouko didn't choose to date the guy out of social pressure or anything like that. She chose him because she had an inferiority complex towards Kyouko. Although she might have loved Kyouko, she envied her beauty and class and felt she couldn't measure up. Being with the guy was easier because she didn't have to compare herself to him. Plus his attention made her feel special, the exact opposite of how she felt when hanging out with Kyouko.

In any case, Nacchan and Kyouko's relationship will never work unless Nacchan gets over her inferiority complex and envy.

last edited at Mar 30, 2021 2:35PM

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I think its a fakeout, why would Someone like Asumi call herself Sama?

The message is not from Asumi. It's from the brothel. And the Japanese do call their clients "sama" depending the context.

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Time for Mai to start a intense program of martial arts sex training in order to WIN! XD

Not enough time up to the end of this single-volume story.

You people do realize Mai's a lesbian sex worker, right? She's had plenty of sexual experience. Much more than Asumi, actually. All she needs is just a little bit of self-confidence.

last edited at Mar 27, 2021 5:42AM

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Unless that reservation is a huge fakeout and it's a different Asumi

You know, I do think it might be a different Asumi. Mai will definitely think it's her Asumi and get all nervous and shit, only to get revealed it's a different Asumi. I could totally see this manga pulling that kind of crap on us.

last edited at Mar 26, 2021 7:47PM

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I wonder if Asumi would actually date Mai, since isn’t having a relationship with a client not allowed for sex workers in these situations?

Why would Asumi care about that?

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Holy Madokas, Mai is super thirsty for Asumi. Like wow, it's been years and yet she still lusts for the same person. I admire the dedication lol.

As dedicated as Asumi herself. Let's not forget Asumi is fucking every girl under the sun to find Mai.

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It's quite interesting how it was definitely bullying from how everyone saw it and how it affected everyone and especially Ruri, but Shizuku genuinely believed all the time she was doing something good, all out of misunderstanding comments made about her and taking pride in what she thought were her positive qualities.

Regardless of what Shizuku thought about it, she did bully Ruri. And it's a shame she ended up running away instead of apologizing and trying to make up for it. Honestly, it's hard to root for her when all she's doing is feeling sorry for herself. That's not very sympathetic.

She's not just feeling sorry for herself, she's been utterly broken by guilt, to the extent of shunning almost any human contact whatsoever and

That's what it means to feel sorry for oneself. She's self-absorbed. She's focusing on her guilt, her issues, and because of that she doesn't realize Ruri was the one who was suffering the most. Rather than looking inwards and feeling sorry for herself, she should try to do something for Ruri who was the real victim here.

Even now, she just wants to apologize just to feel better about herself, to feel less guilty. She shoud be wondering what happened to Ruri all those years instead. What if her shitty attitude ended traumatizing the poor girl? She doesn't even think about that.

last edited at Mar 25, 2021 7:34PM

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It's quite interesting how it was definitely bullying from how everyone saw it and how it affected everyone and especially Ruri, but Shizuku genuinely believed all the time she was doing something good, all out of misunderstanding comments made about her and taking pride in what she thought were her positive qualities.

Regardless of what Shizuku thought about it, she did bully Ruri. And it's a shame she ended up running away instead of apologizing and trying to make up for it. Honestly, it's hard to root for her when all she's doing is feeling sorry for herself. That's not very sympathetic.

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Oh man, I'm so waiting that this manga ends with Ai stabbing Hina in the throat.

I don't condone what Hina is doing, but let's nor forget all this started because Airi was abusing Hina. So what if things got reverted? Airi kinda had it coming. And the irony is that Hina is not even doing it out of revenge lol.

last edited at Mar 20, 2021 7:46PM

Kazu-kun
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Octave was crap, but this was okay. Maybe the dude is just bad at writing long series.

last edited at Mar 19, 2021 12:58AM

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that's why it was so awkward when they met at the workplace.

At the end of that chapter it looked like they got over the awkwardness though. In fact, I could totally see them starting to see each other regularly after that.

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Also the last panel. If they're not fucking now, they will be soon enough.

You're confusing Ataru with Mirei.

Mirei is the black-haired chick in your pic. Ataru is the writer Kyouko met (and fucked) a few chapters back.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_two_of_them_are_pretty_much_like_this_ch43#5

The question is, are they still fucking or was it only a one-night stand?

last edited at Mar 18, 2021 11:13AM

Kazu-kun
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The main point of this manga is not that MC will end up with 1 or 2 people. It's how can and will she able to love.

They're kind of related though. Don't forget the reason the MC started being afraid of love is the conflict and hardship related to it, specially when the person one loves actually loves someone else. A 3P is shown as a sort of solution for that problem.

That been said, I don't see a poly ending happening after this chapter anyway. Harem ending seems more likely.

last edited at Mar 11, 2021 1:48AM