Alright, quick rundown and I'll keep it brief so as to avoid seeming above-it-all.

1) Fuck the English language for using one goddamn word to mean a spectrum of things most people never even have the chance to learn half of. (Not that any other language does much better a job.)
2) Aromantic in the way we're used to saying it means the person isn't hardwired to feel romantic attraction in the paradigm sense, meaning that - supposing Nanami is one - MC will not get all hot and flustered (in short) around anyone ever. But that doesn't mean they can't fall in love in a number of other ways (for example, the platonic sense). We can't really confirm that MC is aro because:
-She's young, and the chance of her just not having found someone she feels romantic attraction to yet is still high
-Technically, while aromanticism is very much a real thing, you can never prove any given person just hasn't met the aforementioned proverbial "one" yet. Very scientific in that sense. There is no absolute truth, just lack of evidence against it.
3) Asexual means the person doesn't experience lust. They just don't. And that's all it means. But please do not make a fool of yourself and argue that lust and love are interlocked and dependent. They are related, but asexuality =/= aromanticism. We're just taught in most Occidental countries that lust is indispensable and necessary to a healthy relationship.

So essentially, MC may or may not be aromantic or asexual (we have no way of knowing for sure, even if we had an omniscient 3rd person narrator), but regardless of whether she is either OR both, she can still sustain a healthy and stable and caring relationship with someone else if that person can understand and accept that person (which could be senpai...no way to know yet).

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I was not particularly upset about anything at first...I simply was trying to say that the argument was flawed. By saying "one yuma for hotaru, one hotaru for yuma" and then "to hell with guys, plenty of fish in the sea", the whole basis of the argument was that yuma and hotaru get special treatment over takeda simply because, essentially, takeda is a straight boy, so his love means less because he has more possible options. Which is not a valid or sound argument, even sovereign of how misogynistic and apathetic that makes him seem. And of course I took offense to it because it was said in a way that is rather patronizing and mitigating toward me (indirectly).

It's not that his love means less. It's just that his love is not even clearly stated. In 3 chapters, all I can get about Takeda is that, while he seems to like Yuma, he's not in love with her and his primary goal is to lose his virginity.

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Yeah, I very much can understand what you're saying. It's what I thought you were trying to say in the first place, but the way you made it sound, it seemed very flawed an argument. It was not what we would say is 'valid', as in the argument had a logic that didn't flow.

Sovereign of whether I agree or not with you (I will admit, I think there's some bias leaking in here. Takeda doesn't much seem like a bad guy yet to me...I mean if we replace him with a girl, I think there would be a lot more positive a sentiment directed his way and it would seem far less like he's just using her sexually, because to this point I can guarantee there's not substantial evidence for that claim), that's all I was tryin to point out. I did a piss-poor job of it though, thats' mah b.

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Anya is the absolute best.

Thank you for the small dump. Despite the following, there's not much to find of even these two.

^A bit exaggerative...not the yuriest of shows by any means, but even going in without much knowledge or awareness of the niche in the first place, it's hard to make it to the other side without the concept of romantic potential at least flitting by the mind. But some like Miki and Azusa are hard to get a firm grasp on who they could end up with if endgame were to ever happen.

I am loving where this is going to pieces. Both because of the refreshing take on a common skeleton.

I also empathize and connect with both Nanami and Touko a lot. Nanami because I've never been in love, but very straight-headed about moving forward without much care as to whether someone else likes me or not. Touko because I act in much the same way she does with these situations.

TL;DR Why so upset?

I'm just gonna skip responding to every single line to see if I can do a fresh wipe and start over what I was trying to say.

I was not particularly upset about anything at first...I simply was trying to say that the argument was flawed. By saying "one yuma for hotaru, one hotaru for yuma" and then "to hell with guys, plenty of fish in the sea", the whole basis of the argument was that yuma and hotaru get special treatment over takeda simply because, essentially, takeda is a straight boy, so his love means less because he has more possible options. Which is not a valid or sound argument, even sovereign of how misogynistic and apathetic that makes him seem. And of course I took offense to it because it was said in a way that is rather patronizing and mitigating toward me (indirectly).

But then that get misread into seeming like a #NotAllMen, and then you followed up claiming I was part of some meninist force. I reacted bitterly because I absolutely despise that whole 'movement' (so much so I am straining all the muscles in my hands writing this, and had to use all my willpower not to throw in unnecessary derogatives). It'd be a more benign equivalent of matching me up with the KKK just because I'm a white person from the "South".

That's why I was upset. Not fuming, not steaming, not pissed. Just upset.

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Did you seriously #NotAllMen here? That's hilarious.

Yeah he did, tried to pull the sympathy card on an audience that is mostly indifferent or even hostile. I-It's gunna work g-guises!

#NotAllMenButEnoughMen
Channeled the proper Tumblr replied just because

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No. I did not #notallmen. Not even in the slightest. I said that disregarding our feelings simply because we have other options as if we could easily move on is rude and offensive; it devalues both our love and our 'self'. And I am further hurt that it became a personal attack, as if I'm trying to pull the whole "meninism" bullshit.

I am on your side for pretty much everything. Don't bristle at people like me just because of preconceived stereotypes, it only works against you in the end because it has the same effect that ad hominum has in an argument.

Well completely sovereign of my points people have finally ctfo on Hotaru...which ultimately makes me happy because people finally at least somewhat understand there's complexity in anything given proper effort.

Nya-chan has a good idea that maybe Takeda isn't the good guy...even though he seems plenty good to me at the moment, but we can never know for sure from a limited PoV. And is kinda right in saying that there is only one Hotaru for Yuma and vis-a-vis. I do take issue with the:

To hell with the guys. I can't empathize with them at all. There's plenty of fishes in the sea for them.

Because that is so not fair to us. It's not like us guys more heterosexual than homosexual fall in love with anything we can thrust our sword in. There's only 'at most' one special person for us at any given time the same exact way (since I still don't know where I stand on the concept of having more than one romantic partner at any given time, I'll assume it isn't a thing for sake of ease of argument only...it's rather irrelevant in this case). But all the same you're on the right track with the fact I see Hotaru and Yuma fitting together nicely and they seem to work well for each other.

And one more thing...cheating is never okay. Never. If you are forced into it, you're not cheating. Cheating is an active act of intentionally being unfaithful for . And there is no kinda cheating. It's binary. You did or you didn't. Again, I'll reiterate, this is a much more complex story, and to this point no cheating is being done for various reasons, Just go read my earlier post if you're curious as to how I see it this way.

This could totally have been a super sweet story. But oh well, I'll indulge in the concept behind it.

Mannnn I reallllly wished marrying abyssal fleet vessels was a thing.

Maybe one day...as cruel and twisted and plotholey as that is lol.

.....hey reality check everyone. These are young, developing, high school girls we are dealing with. It's as if people expect them to be fully solidified in personality that they'll have for the rest of their life.

Maybe Hotaru is doing this out of sadness and desperation and doesn't know how to move forward. And sure you can dislike her for her current personality, but don't make the mistake of assuming the end result. Remember that probably 90% of everyone thought Homura was going to be a complete bitch as well. Granted those were rather extreme circumstances, but all the same the analogy holds true.

I strongly dislike cheating as well, but this isn't really cheating under the sense of Yuma explicitly going out of her way to do the act. It's all Hotaru. But Yuma is recognizing that maybe there is something more to her relationship with her than what she first thought. That's not being unfaithful any more than meeting a new coworker while dating someone and realizing you like him/her more. It sucks for the one left in the dust, but if there was someone who could stand between you and your partner in the first place, than there was a lot more fragility and distance to the relationship than necessary for a healthy, stable partnership.

So this kinda seems like 'cheating' in definition only, and a rather broad and shallow one. At least for now. We'll see where the story takes us.

EDIT: For clarification, I know nothing of the already-translated chapters and will not go back and read them because I wanna see how people react and cross-analyze that with how I react and make a conjecture of some kind at the end of it all.

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Here lies the young man formally known as ColonalCat
Poor lad melted into a puddle for incomprehensible reasons
May his soul rest forever in the peace of God

'S a Shaft work, so maybe one day it'll finally go her way. But that one day we create ourselves (a la Madoka). Although Madoka was a lot clearer that a happy end was immanent if you put the pieces together. This...was a little more obscure.

I know nothing of Aikatsu but I love this.

Murakami's face at the bottom of page 11, she seriously thinks that Moritani is just asking to know her body better (which isn't what Moritani means at all). I'd say that Murakami truly believes that the only reason someone would want her is for her body. That is she believes nobody would want her for herself, not even as a friend. I'd also guess that she has a lot of experience backing up that belief.

The way the two became acquainted back in chapter one fit that preconceived notion. Moritani is going to have to do something drastic to start shaking that belief loose. The stage was set in this chapter, but can Moritani do what has to be done? Moritani is like I used to be when I was young; I know what it's like to be a person who fades into the background, who doesn't make waves, who never does anything drastic. It took me decades to somewhat break out of that mold.

I've been iterating from the beginning that I think Murakami just has low self-worth and self-awareness. She's been chewed up and spit out by too many...not necessarily abusive, but rather short-sighted and unkind partners in her past, that she's let it get to her head that her worth is only as much as what others project on her, and she's gotten unlucky (until now) in finding a proper significant other.

Murakami I think does legitimately like Moritani, and Moritani is putting a lot of effort toward the relationship. It's finally Murakami's turn for a wake-up slap.

I don't see how this could be very long. It won't go on more than 1 volume, maybe 2.

It's cute and all, but the feelings are already obvious. They'll probably end up together after one or two misunderstandings and that'll be it.

I can't even picture them having sex, even in the "offscreen" way of Mari and Akko. We can expect a kiss, nothing more.

Well I think you're right but not because their feelings "are already obvious"...because there is plenty that Morinaga can do with the multi-talented Hina and the culturally-influenced superficial Hana. But this doesn't just give off the vibe of a story longer than 3 volumes.

Super-duper looking forward to this. I think she can do a lot with her setup.

That was cute xD cliche scenarios always work for me.

Because cliche isn't a valid argument!

This was nice. Soft and undertoned, well-paced.

I liked this a lot. This was really cute and fluffy, I think what the author was aiming toward in the original deal.

If they go by the book, you all are gonna rage sooooo much xD I'll have to bring my popcorn.

You, I like your style. XD
I guess I'll be stealin.. - erm I mean sharing that popcorn :D

I'll bring more popcorn for us.

Not a fan of popcorn so I'll just bring a Coke ICEE. I'm taking orders for whoever else wants some.

The sparkle of these two just never leaves. The intense passion left after a few months of drowning in KyouSaya hell, but now that I'm back on land everytime I look at the sea these two come to mind and deserve a moment's pause before moving on.

Tama is always always always always a light of joy in my life...especially after the hiccup the US had in the Gold Cup today. Also this.

Big fan of these new(er) girls...I just wish it was developed as deeply as the original im@s was. Well there's still a cour left, so maybe they'll surprise me.

Taihou cameo woo

(She's as dense as Akagi when it comes to Shoukaku or it's just me.)

That (as well as Zui's admiration of Kaga) is the basis of the love quadrangle. Hard to make a legitimate argument against AKaga and ShouZui when all four are pit together. But people like the concepts of ShouAka and ZuiKaga, so all the power to 'em.

EDIT: I spelled 'admiration' as 'adimation'. How.

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I hereby dub Veebu as queen of life