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VAMPEERZ discussion 23 Sep 15:38
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fantastic chapter! love them both

takachi
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When the central conflict of a story is resolved, for some unfathomable reason there’s less conflict.

Color me shocked.

I see no reason for sarcasm. Either the story should've ended leaving the rest to specials, doujins etc. Or another conflict introduced. It probably is difficult, albeit not impossible, to add and resolve a conflict within one volume without disrupting the consistency of the rest of the story. Probably a relatively good example that comes to mind is Toradora. But it felt more consistent throughout the whole journey too, or at least that's how I remembered it. Anyway, there might still be some drama hiding behind the cuteness of the last couple of chapters - let's see what the author has in store for us. I do hope the last volume isn't gonna be fanservice only.

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re: skull

I hope the ultimate ending is less meh that this last chapter. The story has left too much of an impression on me for the ending to lower it much in my eyes, but still...

Why do you think it's meh? :0

This chapter just read to me like something I'd find other manga. I especially didn't care for the final panel. It felt too cliché. Just not my preference. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I feel like the story that captivated me has already ended. If this were part of an epilogue I would care less. In book form, maybe I'd just flip through these chapters very quickly. We'll see...

Thank God, I wasn't the only one thinking that! It feels like fillers, doujins practically, after the main drama is resolved. They are very cute together, no doubts. But the manga somehow lost its nerve to me I guess. Let's see what's coming.

takachi
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Emphasis on her feet lifting off the ground, anyone?

I believe it implies that Yuu is finally the one who initiates the kiss

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This was a very well done chapter - totally worth the two-month-wait. Liked the part with reflections in the window and Nanami closing the curtains.

takachi
Stretch discussion 25 Mar 15:24
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And the relationship sure moved fast. From zero to waking up in the same bed.

I have to admit, you've got me hyped, Nyaa-chan. Couldn't help but read the chapter. Have to also admit, I'm looking forward to the next chapter now

takachi
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So, next chapter, Yuu is hit by the car, right?..

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I found spoilers for the Saeki novel if anyone's interested https://greatpassage.wordpress.com/2018/11/16/yagate-kimi-ni-naru-saeki-sayaka-ni-tsuite/
Less of a spoiler but... Sayaka does have a chance to end up with someone else! It's canonical and everything!

I really hope she ends up with someone who loves her so much back.

What would even be the point for the side story if not for Sayaka to get a proper relationship? Of course she'll find someone who loves her back properly.

takachi
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BV has snapped, but at least he learned to use the edit button.

Yes! We need the nutshell interpretation of the facts here, just like in Citrus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLrLp6M809o

You see kids, when you try your hardest and actually put in the effort, you get rewarded with an unrelated video.
Gotta love life.

What would you like to get rewarded with then? :)

takachi
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@NxY
Meanwhile, while neither arom or ace, I am overwhelmingly more into romance than sex. Part of the explanation is that I already got a GF, but that's not the whole thing.

Women are too much work vietnam flashback to ex.

Ouch. I hope you overcome your problem.

I was overexaggerating slightly, we just wanted different things from the relationship, I'm fine now coughs blood.

takachi
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I just feel that Sayaka's feelings shouldn't be addressed until after Yuu and Nanami have sorted themselves out.

That however IMO is quite likely. Touko will be seeking advice. Who else could she talk to about it? Sayaka is her closest peer after Yuu.

I could see Sayaka snap if this were to happen, as in confess, or even dare to kiss - she has her limits too. On the other hand, a mature discussion with her could be equally likely. The aftermath of either of those will be a pain to read - as much as I don't like Sayaka as a character, I'm easy to empathise, and the grief she's gonna experience in either case is gonna be enormous.

And Touko needs to realise that she may truly be loved by others. Her whole issue IMO is the mistrust in feelings of others towards herself. The play, thanks to Yuu, helped Touko find love towards herself again, accept that she can be a Person, and a good one at that. Metaphorically, it drew another, real, world around her. Now, Yuu's confession brought her to the end of the old world as she knew it. All she needs is a kick to blow up the old world bubble and go to the new world. And that kick is likely to come from Sayaka.

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takachi
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I have a tendency to read some manga I like with my younger brother, and every day he accepts, we read one chapter, and then follow it up with listening to some music of his choice. It just so happens that we read chapter 9 yesterday.

oh sweet, what music did you end up listening to for chapter 9? :)

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and I'm waiting to see Rei-chan making Touko's toes curl with a photo of Yuu sleeping (https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/bloom_into_you_special_her_sisters_perspective#9)
and Yuu's mimics as she's solving maths problems when she studies together with Touko in the library (https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/bloom_into_you_ch08#16)
and of course the entirety of chapter 9 - Touko alone at Yuu's, Touko and Yuu alone, Yuu getting lonely af after Touko went home
and Sayaka at home in chapter 12
and Yuu warming up to Touko after the rain in chapter13
haha, it's really easy to continue this list

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I was quite hyped for episode 3 because of Rei-chan, and the big sis totally delivered! She's so awesome!! Just like the entire episode. I'm getting used to Touko's voice acting. My only concern left is Sayaka's voice. Other than that the adaptation is perfect, And I absolutely love it.

What about the anime ending after the play but real conclusion once the manga ends in OVA format? The likelihood?

That would be really nice. If the OVA is about 1h, it might be able to cover the full volume. So let's hope. Watching the first episodes at the current pacing is actually very enjoyable for me, so 13eps + 1h OVA would be awesome.

Can I say something potentially controversial (as if I ever care lol)?
I don't think Bloom Into You works as an anime

For you. For me it works fantastically well. It really is a matter of taste and personal preference.

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I really liked episode 2. I agree there are minor quirks here and there, but overall it's done really well, in my opinion. I like the slow pacing, I like the colours, I like the music. And I think it's only gonna get better with each episode. Almost everything works the way I imagined it, except probably the voice acting - the acting itself is not bad, but the voice timbres don't match my own expectations, especially for Touko and Sayaka. Ok, Touko was actually better this episode or I got used to her voice. But Sayaka sounds plain wrong. She doesn't sound mature enough, too naive, which doesn't seem to work well with her character.
Anyway, I think anime and manga really work well together to express the characters better. It's really so cool to see everything animated so well. I wish I could watch the anime before reading the manga and then compare the experiences.

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I liked the first episode, although I am not too happy with the voice actor choices, especially for Touko. But other than that a very well done animation. Ok, maybe the eyes could be a tad bit livelier in some scenes, but I'm really nitpicking here.

If they keep the pacing and don't make any cuts, we'll end up about 2/3 of the story, right before the stage performance. This doesn't make a lot of sense, so I think they will increase the pacing a bit after another 1 or 2 eps, and will likely introduce some cuts.

If they cut on side characters, including Sayaka rivalry (to the extent that the story still works), we might see the happy ending in episode 13. Otherwise they might stop right after the play. Not sure what I'd prefer personally, but probably the former. Unless Nakatani-sensei has enough content for the 2nd cour which doesn't seem to be the case right now, at least to me. So yeah I'd prefer a simultaneous ending in manga and the anime for Christmas.

But let's see, the show has a very good series composer, so I trust he will make the best choice for the viewers given the limitations.

Overall, it left a very warm feeling in my heart and I want to rewatch the episode again and again.

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ha, accidentally stumbled upon my notes written soon after the 2nd volume got published. For whatever reason I failed to post them here back then. But I'm surprised they actually turned out to be quite to the point. You may not agree of course. Still, I guess this also shows how consistent the story has been so far.

The way I see the story, Touko faces difficulties with receiving love, but is willing to give as much as she can. And Yuu has difficulties with giving love while being exceptionally easy on the receiving side, not rejecting Touko in any fashion. So they work kind of like role models for each other - Yuu is perfect to teach how to receive love and Touko shows Yuu how to share love. So to me it's inevitable that through some drama hardships they will converge to a couple.

Yuu doesn't know how to love. But why? It's very hard for me to imagine. How could she never have fallen in love before? At first I thought, well, if she's gay, then of course it explains why she's never truly fallen for guys. But then she should've fallen for girls, right? And yet she hasn't. And I really find it hard to believe that she's never had anyone around her to make her heart skip a single beat. Therefore, I think that Yuu has simply been always conscious and afraid of her sexuality, shutting herself in the closet from any romantic sprouts till someone safe, openly gay for her, like Touko, pops up, finds her there and brings her out.
And why would Yuu's personality become like that? In chapter 04 we saw her father saying how he would've been knocked down if Yuu turned out to be a lesbian. Not that he would be mad at her or would try to prevent her from going that route, but clearly Yuu felt it'd be a severe blow to him. And she doesn't look like the person to hurt her family.
This would explain, to me at least, why she'd learn to hide and ignore her actual feelings. And given her sister was the one who came up with a girlfriend idea, even if as a joke, I would guess that Yuu could have given some reasons for that in the past too. And by saying that I imply that Yuu might have been used to ignoring her feelings for quite a while now. So this would explain why Yuu claims she has never really felt anything for anyone, boys or girls. This could be what rendered her being unable to give love.

As for Touko, her sister died when Touko was 7 years old. It seems this made her feel lonely and abandoned. All the attention was drawn from her to how great her sister was. She wanted the world's love back, so she thought if she were as good as her sister, everybody would love her too. Only to learn that all she got in return were love crushes and flattery. Well, maybe some positive praise too. But none made her feel less lonely apparently. I don't think she quite understands the following yet, but once the play by the student council is through, the goal replacing her dead sister will be achieved, and Touko will likely find herself all empty, blank, and lonely again. Because she still has never truly responded to any of the feelings people have thrown upon her, good or bad. Which is why keeping the love so one-sided, rejecting to receive love, even if she really likes Yuu, Touko may really hurt Yuu a lot when the time comes.

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I'm wondering how many chapters the anime will cover. The pacing in the manga doesn't give the impression that there's much room for further improvement. It'd be quite a tragedy if the plot is rushed. Almost as worrisome would be a "go read the manga" ending.

12 eps would be too little to cover all the materials & 24 eps would be too many. This is why I don't like how almost every anime has to stick to these numbers. It's most likely going to be one cour, so in order for the anime to reach any sort of proper resolution (I'm guessing the play), it will need to cut out some earlier chaps.

I expect 7 manga volumes with 39 chapters in total. 1 cour can absolutely fit 13 episodes which makes it roughly 3 chapters per episode, or approx 2 episodes per volume. I expect the cuts on volume 5 to a single episode due to some filler materials there. And given the level of the scriptwriter/series composition, the anime delivery should be absolutely awesome! I just really hope the director doesn't mess up the rest.

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Big question though: why isn't Yuu crying?
because she's doing that in the next chapter in front of her sister and then comes out

I wonder if we see Touko coming out though. I have a feeling her family is not gonna be too happy about it. So that might be too much drama for the end of the story. That worked well in Toradora though, so still a good possibility. Besides, I don't think that would be in Touko's character to come to a resolution of her feelings for Yuu without seriously considering their life together, their next steps. Poor Sayaka, she's gonna cry a lot very soon too.

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Omg teh drama11
Kinda expected development for a strong romantic drama show. I guess we're getting a happy ending for Christmas in both anime and manga simultaneously

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A "womance" ending:
Touko: sorry, I'm a proper human now and will become an actress. Oh by the way, Yuu, I think I like boys! bye bye!
Yuu: f*k all, now I can love, I'll find a good-looking guy, marry him and become a mum of three kids. bye bye Touko, my first love.
And then Nakatani-sensei confesses that she's just another nickname for Higashiyama Shou

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oh my god... I thought about her last weekend... was wondering if there were any news from her... and now this... why?!! Rest in peace, dear Ssamba! Your work will never be forgotten, and our hearts will always stay aflutter...

takachi
Their Story discussion 03 Feb 09:53
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first image, first thought - yuri goggles!

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do you think Yuu will admit her feelings (at least to herself) naturally

I think the newly written sex scene between the amnesiac patient and the nurse at the end of the play will be all the catalyst anybody needs to put their emotional cards on the table.

It is a sex scene, right?

If only on the phone - remember Yuu was promised lots of new lines to remember

No doubts Sayaka is going to be seriously pissed off about the updated script in public and will afterwards attack Yuu in private. And of course Sayaka will call Yuu a rival. Most definitely Yuu is going to deny everything including any possible feelings towards Touko. Obviously Sayaka will then kiss/confess to Touko in front of Yuu. Naturally Touko is going to get confused, especially after the play will get her brains messed up enough. Of course it's the jealousy and possessiveness of Yuu that will make her question the nature of her feelings towards Touko. Of course it's going to end happily establishing Touko x Yuu as canon.

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https://youtu.be/JohoCyOiT1A

Can somebody check who are the VAs for this PV?

Hisako Kanemoto as Yuu and Minako Kotobuki as Touko.

It's actually written in the video description - look for CV references.

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