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Omichi: "Im going to wait for her to graduate high school."
Dynasty Readers: "You're absolute scum!!! The worst character imaginable!!!"Yep, cuz if u didn’t know, what she’s doing is called grooming :)
I really wouldn't call what she's doing that. Nothing about her character suggests that. Grooming is not a simple thing to throw around, although this probably isn't the space to having discussions about that I guess.
Anyway, nice confession from them. Always a cute story.
last edited at May 1, 2023 7:44AM
Eugh, that’d be a terrible way to end things. Forgive my dramatic flair, but the whole point of them leaving Tokyo is because they felt suffocated by the lives they were living. While it makes sense that they'd have to struggle and make compromises to adapt to the rigors of adult life whilst trying to go against the grain, them going back to Tokyo would represent a total loss. An admission that they can’t carve their own path to being happy, and that the only way forward is to convince themselves that they’re happy as they consign themselves to the machinery of society. At that point, what’s next? Do they need to break up, find husbands, and have kid, all while telling themselves that they’re happy and wiser for their past experiences, because that’s what they’re expected to do as part of “growing up?” Not that I’m saying that’s what would happen, but you get my point. They have to draw a line somewhere, even if it’s hard.
No, I’d rather they continue to struggle against this pressure being piled on them so that they can eventually come out in a place where they can be happy without taking the path of least resistance. Maybe it won’t be exactly what they want. Maybe it will require them to suffer for a while longer, but fighting for it will make that eventual equilibrium all the sweeter.
Hot damn, haven’t written something that dramatic since high school
I mostly agree with this but there are ways to view returning to Tokyo as not a total failure. I don't really think that learning more about life, and growing as people through struggle then returning to Tokyo with new habits and a new perspective on life--I don't know that I'd view that as total failure. It would just be how life can be sometimes. If they were to go back and fall into the same patterns as before than yes, that would be a regression but simply living in a city is not the end of the world. I also see no universe where they break up, although the pressures they're going through can do that. There's certainly nothing to suggest they'd suddenly marry a man and have kids.
Having said that, I would much rather they figure it out on the island. The title just leaves me open to the idea that they might eventually go back to Tokyo after the summer.
last edited at May 1, 2023 7:29AM
their first meeting doesn't matter because we've already seen every other part of their relationship including the part where they fuck. this relationship has had enough progression that we don't need to draw things out and take 20 steps backwards. let's see them move on as a couple rather than start walking backwards.
It does matter, though, as Evie still has no idea what happened (or will happen, from her point of view). Only understanding the events of the past she's about to cause will she really understand Elsa and be able to "move on as a couple", as you requested.
Agreed. This is an adventure story, it's not just a romance. It's not focused on just having them do couple things. It's telling a story beyond that as well.
As for this chapter: Awesome. So it is like I thought: a fixed moment in time (Doctor Who) style. She has a lot of free reign to do as she likes but has "protection" should she take it too far. Should be interesting. I really like all of this expansion of the story and world. As for Elsa, she had a really bad upbringing. Hopefully something can be done about these traffickers but that might not be within the bounds of the timeline balance. It'll be interesting to see the moments when Evie's desires to solve issues conflict with the ring's destabalization warnings.
last edited at Apr 30, 2023 9:41PM
Sequel to this
Do you know where the third one that they listed on the second page of this is?
last edited at Apr 29, 2023 2:07PM
I actually preferred it when it was just a one-gag manga. Now that the author is trying to develop the relationship a bit I can't help to notice they have very little chemistry and I don't dig the pairing.
Oh yeah? That's fair. Personally, I love their chemistry. They both are very eccentric and obsessive. I think it took a while for Kimura to break out of her shell but the more she does, the more she resembles Hiyama and the more she shows that she enjoys being "teased" (and more) but also even doing the teasing.
last edited at Apr 28, 2023 2:17PM
I kind of get the feeling that people have been misunderstanding what this series is about from the very beginning. If you think of this as just a romance manga certainly it’s going to be frustrating to read.
I think of it as being like one of those art installations where someone rigs an existing type of machine to go through a pattern of surprising variations on its usual behavior.
So it’s really, really stupid—and I mean that in the best way possible.
I think why is like that is because the humor and comedy timing isn't as good as should be for a one-gag manga
But I don't get the impression it's trying to be traditional one-gag comedy manga either. Shifting my analogy slightly, it's like the output of those experimental musicians/performance artists who create an algorithm and let the program produce the musical output--some parts of the result are going to be more melodious or musically interesting than others.
I've been taking my cue about this series from the title--the starting premise was mismatching genres (a shoujo protagonist with a yuri antagonist) and it's always been mainly about ringing changes on tropes, and only secondarily about developing characters, so that when you plug in "reversal" you inherently get "progress." It's almost as if it came as a bit of a surprise to the author to realize that the plot could develop at all within the parameters they had set up.
I agree. Have to also remember that it basically developed twice. They likely had a more gag-focused start and then developed more onto it as they went along and also for the different releases that are mixed in etc. It started with two distinct character types--for the purpose of the comedy set-up--and has developed from that foundation quite a bit but it's still meant to be fun and taken in stride. I also wouldn't say its timing is off, as though the writer made an error. Maybe for some people that's the case (which is fair), but you can't please everyone. It's working (and worked) for a lot of people, so I'd say they've done something right by any reasonable artistic metric.
last edited at Apr 28, 2023 2:08PM
Love this gag comedy. I get it’s not serious but simple comedy relies on clear character motivations and a basic understanding of what information a character has… and I’m super confused about what each character Knows right now. Like, does MC and Dude know Rival likes MC???? How can they not after Rival confessed to MC like 40 times. What exactly did Rival take away from MC going “I wanna become someone who can say I love you”, did she think MC confessed to Dude??? I thought MC was under the impression Rival heard her confession, so why is she not operating under that logic at all? I want an interior monologue from all three characters telling me what knowledge they possess right now cause the logic is getting murky.
I’m happy people convinced me to pick up this work. It’s SO cute. Kiruma’s pining and jealousy, eventually realizing she’s been self-centered and avoidant to Hiyama which is kind of awful of her (as opposed to Dude being so stable and secure and a good friend). She likes Hiyama so much it hurts.
Kimura and dude both know. They're messing with Hiyama at the moment and also Kimura is still a bit shy and feels she has to improve herself somewhat first. She's finding the perfect moment to confess. In the meantime, her and the friend are both reveling in how dense Hiyama is (and giving her some of her own medicine) while also setting up the moment to make Kimura's feelings more obvious (at least more obvious that Kimura has already made it). They began meeting to help Kimura work up the confidence to confess but Hiyama misread that and ever since then they've been messing with her a bit, amongst other things. As you can see in this chapter, Kimura thinks Hiyama is cute when she overreacts (and always didn't really mind Hiyama's overbearing antics, she knew Hiyama was harmless). Kimura's having a bit of fun. They're both a bit eccentric for each other.
last edited at Apr 28, 2023 9:41AM
I kind of get the feeling that people have been misunderstanding what this series is about from the very beginning. If you think of this as just a romance manga certainly it’s going to be frustrating to read.
I think of it as being like one of those art installations where someone rigs an existing type of machine to go through a pattern of surprising variations on its usual behavior.
So it’s really, really stupid—and I mean that in the best way possible.
Yeah I'm surprised by some of the reactions as well. Taking things a bit too seriously, I'd say but who knows. It's a romance buts it's having fun with variations and evolutions of a type of gag. It's tongue in cheek, with some heart to it. I actually like the evolution out of Kimura along the way. Should be a fun ending in a couple chapters.
last edited at Apr 28, 2023 8:14AM
Kimura with confidence and those precious reversals. Misushima, you are right.
He's become a wingman and loves the joke as well. Kimura is in full control now and she's enjoying it for a bit. Very chill and fun series. I only wish more chapters were longer but at least the last few should be.
last edited at Apr 28, 2023 8:09AM
this is kinda of an rant you can ignore it…… also spoilers I mean…..was THAT really needed? that’s some werid twisted idea of showing that the Misstress is better? this story is full of that I KNOW, but like this is going way absurd that up untill now, no other story will be like, “my girlfriend is better”, after fucking men and kicking them because they aren’t better that my girlfriend?!?!?!?! what? (or the author in this manga showing that men won’t even compare to the Villianes), oh and the implication that the Villianess sees the cum driping from her legs or something………..0.0 so yeah i don’t think most yuri enjoyers will like that >.> just my two cents.
Her background is established early on, this is exactly something she might do. If you want something purely "wholesome" this just isn't for you. The point of it is that she had a terrible background and therefore has unsurprisingly picked up skewed value system. Vylle is helping her but things happen and she's ok with doing things (or acts) that others might not be, since she's done them for most of her life.
last edited at Apr 24, 2023 8:20AM
really? ugh what a crap chapter then i wasn’t expecting forced NTR or whatever her complaining is “that men can’t last longer” do we even have a name for this scenario? really hate this kind of thing in yuri, i might drop it if the atuhor is gonna make chapters like this, force inserting dick when ain’t needed
You could do that, sure. I don't see the issue but it's up to you.
from the looks of it she trick them with the idea of sleeping with her then she kicks them in the balls??? so the weird sex plot to get away doesn’t happen???
I don't think the scene is an issue at all. But no, she uses her skills. She has sex with them and fucks them into submission. That's the twist and the joke. She's made these comments before about men being ill equipped and inadequate and her sexual history is already known. The idea is that she's giving them more than what they wanted, in a way that overwhelms them because they're pathetic and don't compare to the mistress. The liquid at the end just confirms more.
last edited at Apr 24, 2023 12:31AM
Actually how Al-kamil thinks is pretty simple. She has her (mother-sister) loves her to "death" (Aria raised her to be her sister). The entire town adored her because they looked to her as if she was everyone's little daughter. She was absolutely spoiled rotten. When she was thirsty instead of following the rules, she went ahead and kill, thinking that EVEN if it were not OK, they will let her out; and if it does not, then Aria will let her out. Yes, a definition pf "spoiled child". Also, she might not even think about the possibility of being executed by the treasure sword because she might have never seen it herself, which to her can mean it is just an ordinary antique sword. She changed her mind pretty quickly when Shin read her the death sentence and indeed a treasure sword holder coming after her...it was not a joke or something that she could have gotten out of.
Yes, she was given immortality too early and is a twisted child. Her motivations are meant to be childish and reactionary partly as a commentary about her age, development, and upbringing, etc.
Then why would she say "as long as as we meet again, we'll surely..." This, along with the "believe in me" leads me to believe she learned from that god that this is exactly what would happen, maybe as long as she targeted that weird ball or whatever. And after that kiss and regaining memories she is even saying that this is exactly what she hoped will happen.
Yes, that's what chapter 44 (and the opening of 45) was entirely about: her gaining knowledge of what it would take to save Aria and still choosing to do it. She literally sees all her memories with Aria before she makes her decision.
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I also thought she could be at the graveyard, in such case, Himari is gonna have to run a lot to drag her back.
Good call. I'd forgotten about the graveyard. I'd bet that's where she's gone to spend time and maybe talk. I really don't expect this to happen but it wouldn't surprise me if she doesn't actually perform but instead meets Shiho there and talks it out or decides to play or "whisper" (her "love song") for Shiho solo. Guess we'll see either way.
We do have an idea, yes, but the actual reveal is left to their performance that she's using to also let Shiho know, of course.
Yeah, I doubt the handshake was meant to be the reveal. She's not verbalized it yet, although it's pretty obvious what she'll say about her revelation.
last edited at Apr 23, 2023 4:22PM
I'm assuming she realized that she'd settled her feelings with that hand touch. She no longer has her crush and probably hasn't had it for some time. She'll try to communicate that to Shiho with her song. She seems to want reconciliation but, as per her conversation with Shiho, Aki doesn't want to reconcile while still pinning for someone else.
Yeah, I think you are right. After all, Aki wants to convey a message to Shiho with their last song, and It can't be something like "I still have feelings for Yori, but let's be friends" as she knows Shiho would never accept that.
True. Also, Aki doesn't seem to like being in this frozen state either. Based on this chapter, she hadn't reconsidered her relationships in a while. Regardless of Shiho, Aki had to move forward at some point. We needed to deal with that issue and I guess we're dealing with it now with Shiho (messily and inadvertently) helping to force that reframing for Aki. So at the end of the day they are both settling some baggage they've been kicking the can on.
last edited at Apr 23, 2023 12:15PM
Im still unsure if she knows herself why she is running away or not.
Yeah I don't think she's put two and two together yet.
I don't know if it was stated before, but I certainly didn't expect SS's performance to be the next day. I'm glad, because thanks to that Aki had time to refresh her head a bit. Otherwise it could have ended pretty bad for them. I wonder what was that Aki realized about her feelings.
People will start complaining about the last page, which I understand, but it obviously won't be anything serious at all. The author just wanted to end the chapter with a cliffhanger.
I'm assuming she realized that she'd settled her feelings with that hand touch. She no longer has her crush and probably hasn't had it for some time. She'll try to communicate that to Shiho with her song. She seems to want reconciliation but, as per her conversation with Shiho, Aki doesn't want to reconcile while still pinning for someone else.
As for the last page, yeah. Aki is writing a song seemingly targeted at Shiho. Having Shiho disappear (or appear to disappear) is likely an attempt to reinforce the intent of the coming song (since the song will be meaningless to Aki if Shiho can't hear it and I'm sure Aki will say that) and also to show that Shiho actually hasn't gotten over Aki (even though she implied it last chapter). They need to show that there's still a possibility of Shiho's accepting the song (and therefore, Aki); so having her still unsure and tormented will help with that. Just setting the stage, I'm sure.
Also is it just me or does this site seemingly go down every couple of minutes? I have to refresh quite a bit sometimes.
last edited at Apr 23, 2023 9:12AM
ch41 up on Mangadex
angry commenters captured Shiho and now she's disappeared and probably dead
Haha. They wish. Another round of the same comments, probably. Honestly though she's likely on the rooftop, the place people go to disappear in these things (or maybe somewhere playing music?) I'll wait until it's up here before saying anything more.
last edited at Apr 23, 2023 7:21AM
And there we have Otsuyu. The afterward is really interesting as well. The chapter with Meguru wasn't even in the original plot and the author already knows the general plot progression and end. Makes me rethink some theories about where it'll go, as the afterward sounds more biased towards Okiku and Ryou (calling it a romance story about them specifically etc.). Still wonder how things will progress.
The ghost wasn't in this chapter either. Maybe it was just Otsuyu the whole time?
Also I guess it's not about the kabedon but what happens after the kabedon.
last edited at Apr 21, 2023 5:42PM
She really just needs some closure, then everything should be fine. Seems like Shion was slightly wrong, though. Marriage Blues were caused by her worries about Tonya's reactions more than anything else (which makes the line about trusting Tonya make more sense). She's still just scared of losing Tonya just like from The Witch's Trial 3 chapter.
last edited at Apr 20, 2023 7:19PM
Now I wonder what she'll do with this information.
Also, it's rare for a story to get bored of its main couple and just focus on something else. I'm sure it'll tie together somehow. Or not. But I'm game for this subplot since Liaoliao and Pei Yu are just chilling at the moment.
I actually find that a lot of these Korean and Chinese stories tend to have at least 2 pairs of "main" couples that are developed over time (ex. "My Food is Very Cute Today," many more but I realize it'll be too much to list). I wouldn't say they're getting bored, it seems purposeful and planned. So many series have done it that I assume the audience just likes the variety of stories. I tend to like it myself and have also come to expect it. You can often tell pretty early. It's actually rare that I find a series that doesn't have at least 2 pairs that are developed at different times (and often concurrently). It's like an A plot and B plot.
last edited at Apr 20, 2023 11:12AM
Ren Xing who?
She's Liao's good friend who went to college with her and is the Idol. Short black hair and is going after the model at the moment. People thought they were dating in college because they hung out so much.
I thought I missed a chapter. We really just jumped from one point to the other. Did we get introduced to this Gu Yi character before? And I don't just mean her being somewhere in the background or whatever.
She was the previous boss. We saw her earlier at the dinner for Pei's arrival. She has things to say then. She was known to be a bit mean (or fixated) on Liao. Now we know why, I guess. Seems she bought those rumors that Ren and Liao were an item during college. Or Ren actually did like Liao back then but doesn't anymore. Either way it seems Gu swallowed her feelings during college because of this and regrets it.
last edited at Apr 19, 2023 10:44AM
I can't wait till the Dynasty side of this catches up cause AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Quite so. All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.--Julian of Norwich
Also agreed. She was always just a young girl with an unrequited crush meant to push the characters to actually think about their places. Never treated like a serious actor in the story (besides eventually Omichi, I guess). The drama around her inclusion was always predictable but mostly exaggerated. Still, it moved faster than even I expected, so cool.
last edited at Apr 19, 2023 9:52AM
i cannot wait until we get back to things that matter
Why would you think their first meeting doesn't matter, especially after all the times it's been hinted to be the reason Elsa considers Evie her destined soulmate?
I agree. Whole thing's become like a Rorschach test, at this point.
last edited at Apr 18, 2023 8:07PM