Well, cousin incest isn't the same as nuclear-family incest...

Well yeah there are degrees and nuances to it all but it seems superfluous to split hairs over it for fictional characters. I mean, if you wanna get technical about it a good chunk of "arguments" against incest don't apply to same sex incestual couples in the first place.
And that presumes the actual "consummation" of said relationship, which isn't even the case here. Not that there was any real possibility for it in the first place in this series, we knew that from the start~

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Weirdly normalized

It's the West who weirdly hate incest, not the other way around. There are so many worse topics being commonly explored in popular Western works, yet everyone always gets so offended when two fictional siblings love each other. Why?

Worth noting that it's the USA that hardline it the most from what i can tell. Europe sits kind of in the middle of the scale between the USA and Japan on the issue, at least that how it seems to me. Like, it's still stigmatized and all but at least here in Germany for example, marrying your cousins is completely inconsequential, never seen anybody make a fuss over it.

Miki was excited for/about her sister from chapter 1, but I don't think there was any hint of it being more than sisterly love and supportiveness. (Yes, some siblings actually get along and like each other.)

she's been showing the "siscon" tendencies from the start really, until the reveal it just could've plausibly gone either way. as in "really attached to her but nothing more" vs "actually in love with her".

Porn sites are full of incest and people blame Japan for being weird. It's just a common trope.

Yeah but porn is porn. The criticism isn't about porn. Lots of crazy shit is done in porn that I wouldn't want in my average fiction. I'm surprised I have to say that porn isn't a good barometer.

They are right about it being a common trope though. Just look at the romance genre as a whole, there's so many stories about incest, both contemporary and ancient.

Oedipus Rex by Sophocles, Pericles by Shakespeare, Ada by Nabokov, to name a few. The list goes on

THEᵗᵐ Herta

I love how serious Germans are about bread.

From my experience living in Germany, Germans x Bread is OTP. I never heard of anyone else who considers eating bread with butter and tea a proper dinner, but Abendbrot is a thing.

As a German, it absolutely is OTP. So much so that German bread culture was declared a UNESCO Cultural World Heritage. We get that bread :D

... so honestly don't get what this drama is even about. It's "too late"? Does she have terminal cancer? ^^ If not, what's the problem ...

Back then, she was “happy” to be with Joe and being part of the family, then she left to chase her dreams.
She’s grown and became her own person, fulfilling her dream and being actually happy.
Coming back and reducing herself to the person she used to be, she can’t do that anymore - you won’t be satisfied with things once you’ve explored/found what you’ve always wanted to see/do.

We also can't forget that they were going to go chase their dreams in the usa together. But Joe chickened out bc he couldn't leave Mitsuki behind, so they broke up and Kanna left on her own.
That's why it's "too late". He made his choice back then

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Ooo kind of a rare pair, comparatively. Cuties.

@juanelric it's an Avatar: TLA situation here. If she's been asleep 500 years and hasn't matured at all, neither physically nor mentally, during that time then those 500 years can't really be counted as her age.

So apparently the Global Version of Heaven Burns Red launches in like.... 15min?? I just stumbled upon this info by pure coincidence. Apparently they dropped the release date a mere 3 days ago, all casual-like xD

There's a PC client available on the website too.

https://x.com/hbr_official_en/status/1856731883201298874

I think Bai Yan is straight, she’s just the type that likes to mess with lesbians and lead them on for their ego and whatever else they can get from them.

A Straight Girl Flytrap if you will.

a city that's not real. Like Bielefeld or smth~

I see what you did there. =__=

*fingerguns*

Hah, really just straight up Lübeck. What a weirdly deliberate choice to use an actual town's name when it would've been so easy to use some other random, German sounding name of a city that's not real. Like Bielefeld or smth~

On second look he does seem to have a ring too? You can see it in some scenes. I'm just unsure of where they'll go with this then. I think I was thrown off because she never thinks of Youji much when wondering about her feelings for her partner.

squints Now i'm doubting myself xD like on this page. i thought the hand with the ring was Homare's, mostly bc in the top-right panel the arm that the ringed hand holds onto looks like it connects to the sweater Youji is wearing. But that's kind of an awkward pose tbh and on the previous page where Tsukiko had her arm over her shoulder as you'd expect, it looks like Homare isn't wearing a ring.

If it's hers, then it might just be inconsistent drawing and i'm back to my previous post. If it's his then that could either mean that he is a boyfriend, maybe hers or maybe not hers which would conflict with his feelings for Homare. Or he's nobody's boyfriend and just wears a ring in the wedding ring spot for the heck of it xD

They both have a ring on their ring finger. On the page you linked it's definitely Youji's hand securing Homare's arm wrapped around his shoulder, while Homare's ring is clearly visible here and here. The way Kiki casually asks him when he started liking her sister also seems to indicate that they are in a relationship; I doubt she would be so forward otherwise. I don't really remember what was mentioned about the sister in older chapters, but considering how we see both Kiki and Youji welcoming her back home after her dinner, I think it's safe to assume that she has been living together with him and they both came back to visit her family. Otherwise, I don't see any reason why Youji would be in the same house as Kiki at night.

What's interesting is that Homare is holding a cup in the beginning that kind of just vanishes at some point lol. So I think the author probably just forgot to draw the ring in some of the scenes. Easy to forget about a ring when you forget a whole cup, I would say.

okay, glad i'm not the only one, thought i was going crazy there for a sec xD That just makes her comment about being envious of Kiki for having someone precious all the more confusing/intriguing. I really hope we get to see where this plot thread goes, i'm gonna lose sleep over it at this rate

On second look he does seem to have a ring too? You can see it in some scenes. I'm just unsure of where they'll go with this then. I think I was thrown off because she never thinks of Youji much when wondering about her feelings for her partner.

squints Now i'm doubting myself xD like on this page. i thought the hand with the ring was Homare's, mostly bc in the top-right panel the arm that the ringed hand holds onto looks like it connects to the sweater Youji is wearing. But that's kind of an awkward pose tbh and on the previous page where Tsukiko had her arm over her shoulder as you'd expect, it looks like Homare isn't wearing a ring.

If it's hers, then it might just be inconsistent drawing and i'm back to my previous post. If it's his then that could either mean that he is a boyfriend, maybe hers or maybe not hers which would conflict with his feelings for Homare. Or he's nobody's boyfriend and just wears a ring in the wedding ring spot for the heck of it xD

Her feelings are sort of left up in the air as though there's a chance she'll realize something new. They've hinted at feelings between both women before (even last chapter) but I doubt they'll break up her and Youji or will spend that much time on it. So, I don't know what the point of the hints will be.

Well we have no idea how long this series is gonna be iirc, so for all we know we might get a whole side arc about Homare figuring out her feelings (or at least an omake or two updating us on it). Would feel weird not to do anything with it beyond giving Kiki some development but guess we'll have to see~

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Really sweet chapter. Finally we'll get that discussion between them.

Kiki just casually helping her sister along to her eventual bi awakening

Has her sister been in a relationship with anyone yet? I thought she was single or with little information about it. She's not dating her dance partner now, it seems.

i don't remember if anything was ever confirmed, but you're prob right. Looking at the previous chapter she says she envies Kiki for having someone precious she tries so hard for. She is wearing a ring on her left hand and Youji clearly does like her, but there's no clear view on his hands soooo.

But well, going by her attitude to life and the story she told Kiki, it wouldn't surprise me if she just assumed she was straight bc she never thought about herself that hard. And clearly Kiki gave her an idea about Tsukiko that hadn't crossed her conscious mind before at the very least xD

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Kiki just casually helping her sister along to her eventual bi awakening

Tired: "We should all keep our hands off until the indecisive Mei makes up her mind who she wants."

Wired: "Since Mei isn't against it we should all get some action in until she'll be so blissed out that she just has to take all of us."

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rereading the whole thing bc vol.1 just came out in english and..

another Windyfall release teetering on the edge of unintelligibility

Oh fuck yea, now we're cooking!
Anime adaptation officially announced for 2025! Production will be handled by Studio Lings who previously worked on Tachibanakan Triangle, Yuri is my Job! and Oomure-ke: Dear Sisters.

https://x.com/wttb_tv/status/1848318564530532607

how's every chapter even hotter than the last. Asumi please, people can only get so erect

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FUCK HER
FUCK HER
FUCK HER
SHOVE THREE FINGERS IN
STICK THE WHOLE OF YOUR TONGUE IN THERE
SHOWER HER IN HICKIES
6 WEEKS FROM SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY

spent a good few minutes to find my account login to tell you WHAT THE FUCK

The irony that this reply of indignation at thirstiness literally comes from an account literally called "thirst"

and here we see the full range of the human experience

Uh. Why are they having an argument now? What is going on?

Chapter 100 is where it happened. Since then things have gotten awkward and they're a bit distant bc Mizuki's busy with the sudden attention from ppl, and Aya is busy stewing in jealousy~

mlem