I still strongly suspect that his feelings of affection towards Kaoru are not the main reason he is with her. He likes her, he's known her forever, but I think he married her and stays with her out of some kind of guilt. Time will tell if I'm right on this, but it seems pretty likely he doesn't love her the way she loves him, or probably the way he loves Risako.

I think you make a bunch of really good points that I've never really thought about before. Maybe he really is staying with her out of guilt- that's a possibility that I think isn't much of a stretch. Reminds me of the Commander in The Handmaid's Tale- he was kind to Offred only because he felt guilty about the previous handmaid being so miserable and killing herself. Maybe it's something like that? Or even something else, like pity; or maybe they just didn't think their marriage through very well.
Whatever it is, I don't think their relationship is based on just love. And even if it is, a very watered down version of it.
Well, guess we just have to wait until more chapters to find out more, won't we. I'm sure it'll be well worth the wait though. Great series.

We still don't know what happened in their background. We know there was some kind of drama involving parents. Uta was the only family at their wedding. We know Kaoru feels partly responsible for Uta and Reiichi's parents splitting up, but we don't know why. We know Reiichi turned down Kaoru several times until finally coming around, and we know he used to have a thing with Risako in school. I think it was also implied that Kaoru's mom or maybe both her parents passed away? So that may or may not have something to do with it all.

There are definitely indications of a serious flustercuck in their past, that sets the stage for where they are now.

Oh, I didnt notice this before, but maybe this was a hint from the author that the cheating part was planned from the beginning https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch04#14

Damn, I think you might be right.

Yeah, a lot of people overlook the strong foreshadowing. It's not a mistake that Risako shows up right at the end of that conversation (late, as if she was...busy with something?)

I may be thinking of a different story, but IIRC, weren't Kaoru and Ryuichi in a relationship in their youth before breaking up and getting back together again? It's been awhile since I read the early chapters of this series, so I could be totally wrong, but I remember their relationship being described as strained even then. It's not difficult to fall into the trap of becoming dependent on a previous relationship, no matter how unsuccessful and toxic it may have been. Even the smartest and most independent of people find themselves in these kinds of mental traps.

They were childhood friends, and she chased after him as they got older. He rejected her many times before they finally got together. There's also some implication that there's some kind of drama involving parents? But we don't have any details on that yet. Assuming the dream sequence we saw was a flashback, he broke her heart at least once with Risako, and Uta comforted her afterwards. If it wasn't a flashback, it could be that she was subconsciously aware of what was going on.

I think he was always more into Risako, but had known Kaoru too long to fully break things off with her. Then -something- happened, and he felt responsible somehow and started going out with Kaoru out of pity? Not sure. There's still a lot to speculate on.

I'm dubious as to whether this is actually autobiographical? Unless there's some external info that says so somewhere, couldn't this just be a story written from a first person perspective?

What the heck? There's really something wrong with body proportions in recent chapters.

Kaoru is stupid and a coward.

She's not stupid or a coward. She's afraid, but those fears are justified. However, she is talking to Reiichi's /SISTER/. She can't just come out and say "I think your brother is having an affair with Risako". Whether she's right or not, it's not her place to nuke his relationship with his sister on the basis of suspicions. And it is super common for someone being cheated on or betrayed to become fixated on the idea that it's somehow their fault.

She's giving Uta the most honest answer she can under the circumstances.

It looked like Uta was more or less trying to do the same thing in reverse, by the way, explaining what her issues are while leaving just enough details out to avoid too much drama, although Kaoru's (pretty good, under normal circumstances) response may have blown Uta's reason center out of the water.

I just caught up on three chapters. But i don't rememeber the brother being such a bastard. I actually liked his character. But in the last few, it's as though the mangaka has been changing his personality so that we would dislike him and to give reasons for divorce.
Maybe a missed earlier hints but this felt very sudden and a little bit forced.
Anyone else feel the same?

There was foreshadowing dropped at the very beginning. Comments about cheating, he's always late, he's always forgetting things, Risako is late to the reunion with Kaoru and gives the same kind of excuses as Reiichi.

But I don't think his personality is changing at all. People have this image in their mind that only dispicable assholes cheat, and it is definitely true that when someone cheats, they are -being- a dispicable asshole at least in that moment, but people are complex. A person can be a shitty husband but a good brother. They can love their wife but still have feelings they can't let go of for someone else. A lot of people feel uncomfortable with that, but it's the reality of it.

I still strongly suspect that his feelings of affection towards Kaoru are not the main reason he is with her. He likes her, he's known her forever, but I think he married her and stays with her out of some kind of guilt. Time will tell if I'm right on this, but it seems pretty likely he doesn't love her the way she loves him, or probably the way he loves Risako.

So I stand by the statement that by Cune standards it's doing absurdly well, and thus Cune's not going to cancel it anytime soon.

You're not really standing by a statement. You're changing it to try to massively move the goalposts. And even having done that, I'm not sure it's really a justifiable statement. In Cune you'd expect the really popular series to be among the ones they usually place near the front, and Cheerful Amnesia isn't one of those. It ought to be popular enough that vol 4 probably won't be the last, but talking about that as though it were absurd is... absurd.

A smart mag editor would scatter their popular series throughout the book, to encourage readers to read their way through the newer, less popular series.

What the fuck is anonymus.. Maybe god?

They're whatever you want them to be.

While it was cute in the beginning, it's starting to get boring and repetitive. Same jokes and same over reactions to everything. Every chapter has been pretty much the same.

It dumbfounds me that this complaint comes with a chapter that resolves a cliffhanger and finally gives the conclusive explanation to where her amnesia came from.

Also they're engaged now.

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So....now that we know the last time Mari saw Arisa before she lost her memory was when she proposed, that makes the flashback to when she found out HEARTBREAKING.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/bright_and_cheery_amnesia_ch07

She proposed, Arisa freaked out and vanished for three days, and Mari had no idea if she had been in an accident, or ran away, or what.

;_______________;

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Give me chapter and page number if you're gonna claim that. I'm fairly sure it never says that Tsukasa's feelings were just a phase.

I think Nevri meant these three pages.

It has been said but is something the reader should understand after that ending... Because if we're looking for specific statement, Tsukasa never said she was bisexual either so ...

No, she didn't say anything except that she was in love with Nadeshiko. And we have no reason to disbelieve her when she says that. She certainly acts like her feelings are real. She acts in Nadeshiko's interests at the expense of her own, she longs for her to notice her feelings, she's heartbroken whenever she realizes her feelings just aren't reciprocated.

There's no reason to assume this is a phase. It could be she's bi, or pan, or she could be straight with an exception, (or gay with her later boyfriend being an exception) or maybe she eschew's labels her whole life. The point is we don't know, and there's no reason to assume that her feelings aren't genuine.

Give me chapter and page number if you're gonna claim that. I'm fairly sure it never says that Tsukasa's feelings were just a phase.

I think Nevri meant these three pages.

Those...Those are -entirely- speculation on the part of Kotooka, though. None of that is coming from Tsukasa, or is based on anything Tsukasa said. And it's coming from the character with the single most negative disposition in the entire comic.

Kotooka's sharp, but she also looks at everything through a thoroughly defeatist filter.

Hell, in fact, re-reading, RIGHT after that, Tsukasa takes her to task -specifically- for deciding on her own what other people's feelings are.

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Yeah, this definitely escalated a bit too quickly. It's very cute and wholesome for the whole duration, and then WHOOP OKAY WE'RE BANGING NOW.

I kind of feel like if this wanted to be porny, they should've just gotten sexytimes at the end of the date, with her going home and resolving to work harder at the end.

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Serenata posted:

and in the other hand Tsukasa was just going through a phase after all

That is the single thing that made this series crap for me.

She wasn't going through a phase, she just had a love that didn't work out, and at the end, she takes the first step towards getting over it.

Except even in the series it is said it was just a phase.

Give me chapter and page number if you're gonna claim that. I'm fairly sure it never says that Tsukasa's feelings were just a phase.

Nadeshiko talks about having read that such feelings are sometimes a phase that is grown out of, but her feelings clearly aren't like that, and while Tsukasa doesn't end up with a girl in the end, that doesn't mean, as I said, that her love was "a phase". Like I said, (which you conspicuously decided not to quote) Bisexuality is a thing.

The series recently ended at chapter 80 and it caught me off guard to be honest. It feels kinda empty to have a story that I was used to having around to be gone before I know it. That being said, I am glad it got, what seemed to me, a more less proper ending as compared to White Angels Have No Wings.

I'm really pretty sure it's just the season ending, not the series. The last page says "Thank you for following season 2 until now", and there are a bunch of unexplored threads.

There's more things they should try. In the name of SCIENCE. Marriage. Sex. Conception. Cannibalism. ...

Well that escalated quickly.

(Note, I seriously doubt that hypothesis, even though it's mine. I don't think it's Tan Jiu's style or consistent with the tone of the series to go there, I honestly just think the author needed to write fluffy things, or maybe folded to complaints about Mo's story, but that's also a frustrating excuse for abandoning a plotline, so I'm kind of casting about for anything I can get. <_< )

I just want to see how things went with Mo Xiaonan. Structurally, unless the author just felt like they needed to get fluffy for awhile for personal reasons, the only sound story reason I can think of to -not show us- the rejection is if Sun Jing is doing something really stupid and didn't immediately turn her down.

Hats don't get dirty quickly and they can be blocked, they can be lint-cleaned, etc. https://www.hatsinthebelfry.com/hat-cleaning

Yeah, this is what I'm getting at. I have a hat that I wore for literal years, that thing became unwearable due to wear and tear before it was ever in a condition where I would need to -clean- it.

@CertainPudding Was the "why are we bringing up the real life issues up" directed at me? I apologize if i made anyone uncomfortable. I dont check this site very often and while catching up with the comments here i noticed some people saying how wrong and immoral wincest is and i just wanted to give my opinion on that. I think the discussion had already moved on though, so i apologize once again. Its just a topic that is near and dear to my heart so im often having trouble keeping my mouth shut. ^ ^ Especially when i hear people saying that it should be prosecuted.

I shall refrain from doing so in the future.

I agree with others that you should feel okay mentioning it. It's relevant to the content of the story, and it got me thinking more deeply about the subject than I normally would have.

@Ninzin
Kim Esther is a girl, just very androgynous
Was confused too initially but I think it gets a little clearer as you read on

Yeah, the initial "What the hell, is this person a guy?" line was supposed to belie Ex-BF's prejudices, not be an actual question about the character's gender.

I reeeeaaaaaally hate Nana so much...

I honestly thought she was pretty cute here. I mean, she has always had a hard time understanding her own feelings, and in the past it's caused her (and Youko) a lot of heartbreak, but in this it's obvious that she's trying really hard to figure out how she feels and isn't really being deceptive, or manipulative. Even the kiss that Satomi thought was for a secondary motive (coming to her rescue) was something she chose to do, that she wanted really more for herself.

That aside, Satomi's ex seems REALLY familiar. Is she from something else?

Tell me the author didn't just introduce a rival. Can I please get through one good series without a freakin' rival?

She isn't exactly a rival, and the author didn't just introduce her. She's just another character with her own wants and needs and kinda stalkery habits.

Did it end at chapter 80?

It really looks like an ending (like it was destiny. I almost saw a red string there... and so, The End.)

Edit: oh... the blurb at the end of chap. 80 says "back with afterword next week".

So, it's over.

The season is over, and it's an afterword to the season. It doesn't feel like an end to the series, but I could be wrong?

Edit: In fact, I'm fairly confident it isn't the end. There are still a lot of unanswered questions about Guk-Hwa's past, that teacher of hers, her mom and grandma, etc. Plus they're still very much in the middle stages of forming a long term commitment. I'd be surprised if the comic ends before they move in together, or at least tell Guk-Hwa's mom about Jang Mi.

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Well, what's she supposed to do, though? The start of the second chapter makes the point that girls fall in love with her just by her existing in their presence, and she's unable to fully return their feelings. Should she just avoid everyone completely? I think that's taking too much responsibility for other people's emotions.

She's supposed to pay attention to the feelings of other people and be up front about her intentions before seducing them. Just like anybody is supposed to be conscious of the feelings of other people around them and -try- not to hurt them, for the same reason you try not to actively harm the people you interact with.

She could also not literally laugh off apologizing. The little chuckle under her "I'm sorry" is just the worst.