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btw, they are making a major discount on coins in Lezhin.. if you are interested

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If I were Seju I would start calling Sumin "Darling" too. lol

expected Sumin's reaction:

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aside from the possible sex scene, I have 0 expectations of what's coming up.. but Sumin's Mustang is small to carry a third passenger in back seat, who will sit at the back :PP

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No, you should imagine Seju's face when she hears Sungji and her darling go darling to each other xDDDDDD. Bet Seju is gonna loolllll so hard xDDDDDD

heheheh I think she would !.. I'm scared of hyping again for the next brutal 48 hours to get a short and weird chapter !

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yoonie0104

It's sad but this is one big reason why I'm so confident about winning the bet

you aren't gonna :PPP
it may be even less than 5 chapters left..
imagine if Sungji and Sumin were going home darling-ing the whole time before the assassin stops them XD

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sia ue

I don't think it's hard to believe that Seju only wanted to be in a sex buddy relationship with Sumin.

NO, her conversation ch64 (when they were crying at Sumin's house)
and the one they had ch54, at Seju's office as Sumin tried to break up with her defy that.
* in case you forgot the scene, Seju said in both of them basically : "you know how much I wanted to be by your side ?"
also her dialogue with Nammi as she broke down in ch48, she said to Nammi who called their relationship "meaningless": if you want to criticise this relationship as nothing more than a physical one, go ahead.. I don't care what you call it, I don't need anything else so tell them all to fuck off"
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btw, Nammi who was on top of Seju is a model after all.. ironically, she didn't fall for the temptation even tho Sumin was office sexing Sungji at the same day!

last edited at May 15, 2017 3:53PM

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sia ue

Maybe, you could write down what was happening there?

in ch26: Seju went to Sumin's house, where she tried to talk to her before Sumin slapped her and pushed her and had the shrank almost falling on them.. she tried to explain, Sumin pushed her again verbally and physically and cut her sentences.

in ch27: Seju visits Sumin at the hospital, apologises and insists on taking responsibility for everything even if Sumin didn't need it, promised to wait until the day she dies, again Sumin rejects everything Seju would say.
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Seju had stopped wanting to be in a real relationship with her again

it is again Sumin's doing, in ch50, the dream Sequence, as she went to Seju's right after she broke up with the other girl, she told Seju: don't delude yourself, we broke up a while ago.. she was so bad in bed compared to you. <-- it was Sumin who decided the direction of the relationship compined with Seju's fear of being left on.
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what we were talking about, Seju did try to convince Sumin to forgive her.. and worked harder than Sumin to Sungji

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I think the first time Seju openly asked for her forgiveness and openly asked to start over again was when Sumin was crying over the breakup with Sungji.

I honestly think she did it 10 years ago in ch 26 (when she held Sumin down) and 27 (at the hospital)

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sia ue

Seju did ask for forgivness openly, in ch26 and again at the hospital in ch27.. she said that she will be waiting for her forgiveness until the day she dies, and waiting she did. Again in ch64.

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sia ue

you make a great sense, I just doubt sometimes whether 10 year of revenge weren't enough to prompt forgiveness.

I understand why she is afraid of loving Seju once again, but not to forgive her is another matter..

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sia ue

this darling thing is going to be a challenge -_-
should I practice Yoga to soften the cringe ?

the Sugar rising thing, I believe Sumin sometimes felt entitled to it.
but I don't understand why she keeps saying that she "hates" Seju after each time she says that she loves her.. I don't think it's the cheating tho

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yoonie0104

I remembered that she even dated a high-schooler ( Sumin was at least older than 24 years old when she did that).
more reasons for me to think about slapping her after what she said in ch49 to Seju!!!

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yoonie0104

let's just think them as the fated couple, the one who is the endgame =)))))), easier to understand =)))))

can't do that :P
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yoonie0104

well, in Sungji's defence, she was the one who got cheated on, and was generously offered affection by Dawoon, very very normal for someone who got hurt badly and got affection that Sumin never gave her.. in ch62 look closely at the first and last scene.. all showed a very confused Sungji.
IMO, this confusion is still present and will later come to the surface if you add the additional question that Seju gave her in ch79 Lunch.
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all in all, I know someone who slept with random ppl, called their ex to hear the moans.. and indulged in threesomes, dated 30+ girls !! on average, a girl every 4 months !! broke up with a girl while she was eating her.. before she directly jumped to her first ex's bed !!
a miracle that Seju didn't catch an STD keeping up with Sumin
the hell is that

last edited at May 15, 2017 11:24AM

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People should ask Team Gaji this, "up to these days, has Sumin loved Sungji with all her heart?"

obviously, NEVER.. in ch51, she questions herself in a thought bubble "will I be able to let you go?" and when
Sungji said: you gave me your heart",
Sumin: "Did I..?" in a thought bubble.
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most recently:
ch77, admits that she still like Seju.
how can you love a person with all your heart when you question yourself and still love someone else deeply?
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I'm not saying Sumin didn't love Sungji, she did love her, just not earnestly.
the reason she wanted to cut all ties with Seju later was because she couldn't trust herself in not falling back to Seju.

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yoonie0104

about Sungji at that time, I believe those chapters with Dawoon dealt with Sungji's confusions.. so any inconsistency are natural in that case. she was very annoyed by Sumin's little effort to receive forgiveness. you can see this clearly in ch59 (last scene) before she dated Dawoon and in ch 67 (phone call and the king fox scene at the end) after dating Dawoon.
I'm very sure that one of Sungji's reasons for not giving up on Sumin is not wanting to lose for Seju.
Sungji isn't stupid, she knew that Seju pushed them together, and she won't allow Seju to play her once again the way she wants to. thus the famous line came along: "things are not going to end the way you wanted it to, now.. it's different" before picking up the ring.

at the same time, Sungji can't trust Sumin again easily, and still is very hurt. you can see that in ch77 bed talk, and 78 office talk.

last edited at May 15, 2017 8:58AM

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as for Sumin, how can she let go a girl who looks this happy every time she sees her!

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yoonie0104

I dont agree about the personality part, Nora. Seju is no angel, she's not like Sungji, partly because she grew up without someone who cares and loves her :).

I didn't necessarily mean that her personality is perfect, however it's very intriguing.. I think Sumin herself is also aware of that.

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Vanbun

The question is... Did sumin love to seju is really that great?

I don't think so... At least not as great as seju's love to sumin

good question, however, they both have two different personalities and their ways of showing love (and obsession as well).. the thing is, Sumin took Seju for granted, never imagines that she would disappear no matter how she treated her (until she actually got assaulted). you have one person who doesn't want to admit they still loved the other.. and another one who is so sure of what they want and are willing to get it back.
I don't know really who loves the other more, they are different.

I quote Team Gaji again: "up to the moment they broke up, Sumin loved Seju with her heart"

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Vanbun

you know, Seju's greatest mistake wasn't that she slept with the bartender, but the fact she never trusted Sumin's love for her enough, which lead to the bartender incident in the first place.

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leeyoon0510
"antagonist vs. protagonist" categorisation is the root of all problems.

I quote Team Gaji in here: "the fox is whoever the reader wish to be. it can be either Sumin, Seongji, Seju, or all three. the story will be different depending on whom you empathise with"
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I personally find beauty in Seju's imperfections, in a sense that she was a miserable kid with no one to love or receive love from, yet she was able to give all this love and care to Sumin, the flashback in ch2, where she brought a scarf to Sumin and made sure she was eating her meals.. later when they became older, Seju will still bring food to Sumin's home in the morning after her parents' death anniversary because she knows that Sumin won't eat anything that day. ch13
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if a person comes from a loving household and grew to be considerate = good thing
if a person comes from a sick household and grew to be considerate = even more admirable
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they created her to have the money, the body and the personality.. alluring and sexy in every way to emphasise that she is in fact able to date and meet other people but she is loyal for her own personal reasons not because she has to.

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aside from Seju's PTSD, aren't we going to see the new Team Leader ? O_0

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it is very sad that their most important conversation happened after 10 years, if they only weren't cowards and had it earlier.. they could've been married 9 years ago.. saved themselves and Sumin's 30 GFs the pain
what kind of people are they to be afraid of admitting to each other how they really felt!
ch64

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instead of pets, I wonder if Seju ever had a child, that will change her life.. being loved and love another person who depends on her.. a good reason to live and be happy.. awww a little baby girl with pink hair. Sumin can't possibly father the child, sigh~

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ah and MacySan , Sumin was the one who kept giving Seju hope by always coming back to her, and sometimes waiting for her in her home whenever Seju has to visit the main house.. also showing jealousy towards Seju.. let's not forget that sometimes Sumin will make Seju feels like Sumin is still in love with her in the way she looks at her and makes love to her like in ch3.
that false hope participated in making Seju wait and wait forever.. Sumin is aware of that as she tells Sungji in ch77: "it might even be my fault that Seju doesn't have anyone else to rely on"