Ohhhh, i like this plot twist. Not an antagonistic traditional orgre, but one who really sees her worth as someone to serve them alcohol like they need.

Lately, more and more yuri MCs are girls of less than sterling character. Everyone but Momo in this one is in that category.

I definitely wouldn't bet on that. Momo probably has some skeletons in her closet. Maybe even literal skeletons.

Never thought I'd see the day when Dynasty readers would be complaining about chibi neko-girls licking each other.

(I kid, I kid. But really . . .)

Look, if this was some kind of spin-off or oneshot, then I'd be all for it. There's a time and a place for cute kids and catgirls.

So you're suggesting that there are times and places that are not for cute cat-girls . . . ?

I'm sure I can think of a couple of places that would be inappropriate... I just can't think of any right now.

Never thought I'd see the day when Dynasty readers would be complaining about chibi neko-girls licking each other.

(I kid, I kid. But really . . .)

Look, if this was some kind of spin-off or oneshot, then I'd be all for it. There's a time and a place for cute kids and catgirls.

I don't like where the story is heading now. The arc started because people were dying to the Demon, and now we got this! So tone deaf.

Yes, yes. That's a feeling that I haven't been able to put my finger on for this whole arc.
Yvonne hasn't had much of a sense of urgency for trying to "fix" anything. In fact, she seems to have not thought about the future at all since she met Elsa, which was already quite some time after she went back in time.

Like ... how long has it even been? It seems like it's been months, although it probably just feels like that because of chapter transitions with no idea of what the time gaps are.

The author better bring this story back around in the next couple chapters… i’ve noticed a thing in Chinese romance manga stories where they’ll have the characters a basically get together, and then start a huge arc that steps back from that in defiance of all sense of pacing. And it always kills my interest in the story. This one has been so great, I hope it doesn’t lose me…

It does indeed feel like a way too long arc that's off the track of their relationship. I guess they've gotten away for it for so long because it kind of is progressing their relationship? But backwards? Experiences that Elsa had are now being shared with Yvonne. But we only needed like 2-3 chapters of that. Now, it's like, okay, we get it. Time to move on.

I was wondering how many chapters it has been, so I went back to count. 14. 14/75 chapters of back to childhood cuteness which really hasn't added much to the actual story. We've got:
- Yvonne saved Elsa
- Yvonne and her mother are both sensitive to possession
- Elsa ... is being 'bullied' in a cute way even when she's a kid?
Did that need to be nearly 20% of the whole story? It'll be 20% next chapter.

Ohhh, I get it. He peeked in, and that's where his ... interest began.

It's always the same plot when you read a Yuri story with a succubus. The succubus have always fucked dudes and found it normal, okayish or boring but one night she ended up doing it with a girl by mistake and she found it so amazing that she dedicate her life to eat only pussies after that. For a creature who feeds only from sexual desires, they are pretty dumb... Also, I didn't know that demons are that heteronormative and don't know the existence of gay people. Do they also have the same political and sex education as us ?

I did have a random thought while reading that if this is not "food" just energy collection, and they don't actually need semen, why does it have to be a man they have sex with?

But then I was like, don't think about it too much, it's a story (a short one at that), and they didn't go hard on the world-building.

I wont be surprised the scum became buddies or even marry that dude. As long as Mashiro staying as a mistress for Makino, along with non stop supply of money or credit card, things will work. Money buy you everything. Those three may even becomes a threesome. You cannot ignore that credit card.

Baha, your post seems to have hit a nerve, and that's hilarious. Morality police, go! A lesbian isn't allowed to marry a man for money.
Please post more of these comments that make everyone angry.

I just burst into laughter. Basically rolling on the floor, at the last comment on the extra. They didn't, lol.

PSA: The idea that corsets could be so tight you would have trouble breathing is a myth.

Then why haven't they gotten back in fashion?

Because they're expensive and take a long time to put on?

The format is what might be causing problems for some IMO. It just doesn't make for a nice continuous plot progression, you have to come to terms with this being a very episodic slice of life thing about realistic teenagers growing up and figuring stuff out. I'm quite happy with it, but I get why it might be frustrating for a lot of people.

Personally, I don't get the complaining. We're up to chapter 56, they've had 56 chapters to get used to the format, but they've just been complaining the whole time. It's classic: I don't like this kind of story, but I'm reading it anyway so I can tell everyone I hate it every chapter.

I also take issue with people's ideas of what "progress" is. It was always so frustrating to see people complain about a lack of "progress" in Komi-San because people equate romance to progress. No, that's not the only way a story and the relationships between characters can progress. Mitsuki and Aya are getting closer every chapter, they're deepening their bond and they're understanding each other and the world around them better. That is progress. It doesn't need to be romantic, no matter Aya's feelings.

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To be fair to the chapter, it shows the magic defenses aren't all they're cracked up to be (or someone snuck it in) and shows what it means that Evie is vulnerable to possession just like her mother.

Yes that was very interesting, along with what the father did to protect the mansion. Evie being especially venerable to magical possession was also very good information along with all the funny cuteness.

We did already know that, though. During the love potion incident, they mentioned that Yvonne was susceptible to possession, so this chapter actually doesn't add anything new.

Which, in turn, supports the speculation that the "villainess system" is just a particularly insidious mare.

That's not how the future Elsa spoke about it though. She said she was under constraints from the system too.

So was the medicine catnip or what?

She specifically said it was Silver Vine.
So yes, it's like catnip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_polygama

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I thought for just a moment, that the arrival of that cat would kickstart the plot again.
Look, I'm very interested in all of these cute antics, but I'm also very very aware that we just had a whole lot of plot, then it turned into this side-story that feels more like it should belong in extras, haha.

Oh well, the author will get back to it someday when they've had their fun.

from the comments i need more chapters to be realieased if i wanna know if the story is worth to read or not

Random thing to say on literally the first chapter.
Read the first chapter, you'll know what you're in for, and it's a lot faster (and more enjoyable) than reading the comments. A million times more enjoyable than reading the comments and waiting for more chapters to be released so you can also read those comments.
Just read it, you'll save yourself so much time, which is what I assume the "worth" is.

... Unless you're this level of "can't have fun and no one else can have fun either", I guess

the fact so many of you are excusing fucking incest is insane to me, like what?? the story would've been fine WITHOUT the incest, you can still have crazy x crazy if both were obsessive to each other why include incest

honestly the whole story in general is shit for all that like what's making some of these authors want to write this stuff

Since that was a low-blow, I think I should actually address your queries.
Sometimes, people enjoy reading fictional stories about things they do not find acceptable in real life. We don't think revenge-killing is acceptable in real life, but John Wick exists and is extremely popular. Having a more distasteful subject matter doesn't instantly mean that the people who consume those stories would condone such a thing happening in reality (but we can't discount there are some people who do condone these things, so basically don't judge people by what stories they engage with).
This is why tags exist. So that you can draw the line of what unacceptable (or just gross to you) behaviour you don't want to engage with in stories. It's literally as simple as that. The very fact that you glossed over other distasteful things in this chapter that other people would find unacceptable means that somewhere in the back of your mind, you're aware of this phenomenon (enjoying stories about things you don't condone), so basically just leave other people to their own lines without negative commentary on it. Just look away.

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Hmmm. Which sizes fit you is basic bra size knowledge. Dropping the ball that that wasn't one of the first things they taught her.

But I guess it's here for the placement of a new couple intro, haha. Cute.

Haha, when I started, I thought I had completely forgotten what happened last chapter because I didn't know who the new character was. Once I got up to the cafe, I realised the pages were out of order so I went back to the start at the end to read it with actual context.

and to the ones from many chapters ago who complained about the story being slowed down, who's laughing now.

I just keep thinking about the people who kept whiningly insisting on a "comedy" tag...

I wasn't worried about what would happen, until he said that.
Is Aya going to push her so hard maybe that she feels uncomfortable in the end? Hoping Mitsuki can communicate what she wants and needs effectively enough for Aya to do things that actually make her happy.

Looks to me like it's time for a sex battle of some kind.

Well, the creator disappearing is a bit sad.
But, at least I won't have to feel so conflicted about the casual tsundere violence, lol.
RIP, this manga.

"How did I get into this situation? Oh well, let's just get the sex over with."
I love the ridiculousness of this manga, lol.
That woman clearly hypnotises all the girls into calling her mama ;)

Kurumi has quite a rich fantasy life.

Bearing that in mind, they felt like genuine moments of connection and romantic development. To me at least, clearly it’s just not your thing.

That just means you're fine with whatever you want to think, whether it's good or bad writing.
That's fine, you're allowed to enjoy flawed things, but don't pretend this is a masterpiece of writing when it's not.
There are times and places for your "J-Drama" storytelling modes. You'll note this is when they are not an established couple in pretty much every instance of it. And any that would use this storytelling method when there is a couple will - as I said earlier - at least imply that there are moments in between the drama. There is literally nothing implied about their relationship other than the drama we see in scenes. That is why this is written terribly.

typical problem when you try to lengthen a story unnecessarily and fall into unnecessary drama, especially when the reader already knows how it will end.

Yes, but if this was an unnecessary lengthening of the plot with actual living as a couple/romance in it, then that would be okay. The trainwreck is really that - as people have said a lot in this thread - that it's just the same plot points as were in the main Citrus story, but they are "a couple" (I say that in quotation marks because I really haven't seen them as a couple in anything but words) and don't seem to have grown as people from the events of the first Citrus at all.

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