Pineapplexpizza forever

Pretty much what Blastaar pointed out but i'd add that most of the conversations were just rehashes that went round and round barely bringing anything new to the table.

I think we need to prepare people more failure (which is a huge part of reality), not by destroying their confidence and dreams but by making failure a positive aspect in life rather than a negative.

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so they were friends all this time? they look like an old married useless gay couple

That was a flashback.

I see. I'm totally not following
guess I'm just not into this no-yuri yuri stuff

I think it's quite relaxing, but i get where you are coming from.

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so they were friends all this time? they look like an old married useless gay couple

That was a flashback.

So Minami is not of drinking age, but is of sex age?

Drinking age in Japan is 20. Age of consent on the other hand is a bit more complex i believe. Pretty sure it's mentioned that she's about 18/19.

Is the version on Tapas finished?

Yeah it was completed last year.

Thanks! I just finished it, and i need a S3 of it. T.T

We can only wish haha.

Is the version on Tapas finished?

Yeah it was completed last year.

I still have access to the 70 chapters i bought on Lezhin.

Have a look in your library?

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The tapas translation is less confusing too. Might be time for a re-read. Good characters and the plot lines get resolved (from what i can remember).

When ever i'm feeling down i like to go through the AixChie chapters. So glad all the pairings have tags now.

Yeah i didn't find his back story sympathetic either. He made his own choices, no one made them for him.

I don't think the backstory was put here for us to sympathize with him. Antagonist that you can sympathize are good, but a good old asshole is just as good, the background Just turned this character more believable, it was a hard chapter to read but I think it was good for the story overall.

Yeah i didn't think that either, was more just a response to those whom might have thought that that was the point of giving him a backstory.

I have a love/hate relationship with this story. It's like getting tattooed, it hurts but you keep going back for more.

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Yeah i didn't find his back story sympathetic either. He made his own choices, no one made them for him.

Well, you could kinda see that coming. From an external viewpoint.

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Na, Sumins shitty behavour in the end is her own, just like Sejus is. Im talking about aspects that the author tried to put into the story but badly. The "curse" as mentioned by Saehyun himself, was to make Sumin not forget Seju via the process of torture and the physical scarring (mental scarring by proxy) therefore making her dependant on Seju psychologically, they allude to it plenty of times in the story. The writer just failed at what they were trying to do.

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If you say so. It was in the story i read.

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Thats where the whole "curse" part of the plot was meant to come in. Both Sumin and Seju should have been able to move on but Sejus uncle/brother/familyfriend/whateverhewasican'tremember's involvement, (the whole torture part) was meant to tie the two of their lives together so they couldn't move on from each other. It just wasn't executed very well in terms of the story.

Nah, that would be just fantasy

It's in the story. It was metaphorical which is why i put curse in emphasis.

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Well it depends on the "mistake". If it's cheating then it's not just a mistake.
And I can understand why Sumin broke up with Seju after that, but the fact that she kept coming back to her and not letting her move on, as well as her cheating on Sungji but been forgiven is crazy.

Thats where the whole "curse" part of the plot was meant to come in. Both Sumin and Seju should have been able to move on but Sejus uncle/brother/familyfriend/whateverhewasican'tremember's involvement, (the whole torture part) was meant to tie the two of their lives together so they couldn't move on from each other. It just wasn't executed very well in terms of the story.

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Haha, amateur psychologist over here, please ignore if you don't want to read this. Just some interesting psychology happening that I thought would be fun to share. I've seen many comments on how Midori deserved being in an unhappy relationship with the idea that everything was her fault. Although there may be some blame involved on Midori's part take into account two important psychological things: (1) The Just-World-Phenonmn (2) Fundamental Attribution Error. (1) The Just-World-Phenonmn refers to the simple idea that good things happen to good people while bad things happen to bad people. Simply put: karma. Happens a lot in rape cases (excuse the extreme example) when people tend to blame the victim such as saying things like: "It was her fault she dressed that way and she chose to get drunk." (2) Fundamental Attribution Error is the tendency that people think that others act the way they do because it's in their personality, and doesn't account for the situation. An example: Becky, a school teacher, has a student named Mike who often gets into fights with other students. Becky thinks this is due to Mike's aggressive personality when actually Mike's mother is dying in a hospital and Mike releases his negative feelings through fighting. (Again, maybe an extreme example). Whew, I felt like I went on a lecture, and Idk if anyone got all that but I hope you enjoyed it.

This^

Love comments like this. Thinking of going back to uni myself and studying psychology.

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Taking away her status and privileges and by judging her on her actions and interactions, i still find her very problematic as a person.

Her action and interactions is the result of her upbringing, and background. I said a lot about Seju as child for a better understanding.
I don’t have to approve her actions, it’s I just understand

Was that in the short stories? Because i didn't really read those and don't really want to as i have too many issue with how everything is written.

Yeah I showed how damn lonely she was, and got bullied by her stepmother and brothers, physically and mentally, also having suicide thought. There's a time where she tried drowning her self, later on said it was a joke, but it didn’t seem like a joke

That i would feel sympathetic too if i read it. But it also shows the issues with the story, too much character development for 1 character when it's about 3 characters. Sumin got some good development but even hers has contradictions from what i remember. And then Sungji got forgotten about.

My I ask where these bias coming from? And if one can’t be objective, then the bias is gonna affect your perception, and I totally understand. Human nature after all, right?

They just come from our experiences growing up, how we've interracted with the world and society. Our lives are one large subjective experience.

Maybe, but it’s always a great idea to be objective, because our lives and experience simply varies

But how do you know you are being objective when your own subjective experiences change how you see things subconsciously. Even the news can't be entirely objective, next time you watch the news look at how the presenters present things, often you can see the bias in their word choices.

It's just something to think about and probably a bit too indepth for this thread tbh.

Taking away her status and privileges and by judging her on her actions and interactions, i still find her very problematic as a person.

Her action and interactions is the result of her upbringing, and background. I said a lot about Seju as child for a better understanding.
I don’t have to approve her actions, it’s I just understand

Was that in the short stories? Because i didn't really read those and don't really want to as i have too many issue with how everything is written.

Just want to clarify that my bias isnt my main reason for my feelings towards Seju, i'm just not afraid to admit that my bias has some affect on my perception of her character. Humans by very nature can not be objective.

My I ask where these bias coming from? And if one can’t be objective, then the bias is gonna affect your perception, and I totally understand. Human nature after all, right?

They just come from our experiences growing up, how we've interracted with the world and society. Our lives are one large subjective experience.

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Thanks for your answers people. I don't get the love for her but it's cool to see other peoples reasonings for it.

If you just look at Seju as Seju without her privileges, just Seju with basic human needs you might understand her

Taking away her status and privileges and by judging her on her actions and interactions, i still find her very problematic as a person.

Just want to clarify that my bias isnt my main reason for my feelings towards Seju, i'm just not afraid to admit that my bias has some affect on my perception of her character. Humans by very nature can not be objective.

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Thanks for your answers people. I don't get the love for her but it's cool to see other peoples reasonings for it.

My dislike of her does have a lot of bias from my opinions of rich people and how people idolize them, so getting other perspectives helps to see past them a bit more easily.

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Shepard6 Out of curiosity mainly because i don't find Seju relatable, what does make you find her relateable?

Also neither Seju or Sumin really felt like they learnt any life lessons by the end of it.

The moral of the story is actually very depressing: it's pretty much saying that if you made mistakes in life you are just screwed. You can't really change and your relationship is doomed, unless you find a doormat new partner to fill in that emptiness. Yikes.

I don't think there was ever just one mistake made by either Sumin or Seju, they both made multiple mistakes and never really learnt from them. Their whole relationship was a series of mistakes and while i never thought or hoped they'd get back together the ending still felt a bit void.

Btw it's been a few years since i've read the story but that's what has always stuck to me in my head.

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