Does your girlfriend get jeslous of the way you talk about Seju Nora89 ; P

No, because of the way I treat her :D

last edited at May 22, 2017 11:02PM

Oh, so I guess you know about the rumor going around about the connection between Sumin and taeyeon then? xDDDD
If we had a live action movie about wdtfs, Taeyeon is definitely not a bad candidate =))))))

heard about it, but I have no clue about the K-pop or the artist .. but yeah, I don't think Korean actresses would accept such roles. (even tho I watched the Handmaiden movie, I think WDTFS is just too much for actresses )

last edited at May 22, 2017 10:49PM

yoonie0104

YUP, the ending result, Seju had a model on top of her, in a hotel room wanting her.. while Sumin in the office fingering another girl .. but NO.. Seju remained true to her feelings.
if there is anyone who knows that sex is more than just physical act, it is in fact Seju. Not a virgin who kept pushing her Boss to sleep with her right after they started dating!

Funny, I know some people who sound to be disappointed that Seju didn't sleep with Nammi.. like they actually want her to do worse things so they could hate her more even if she doesn't want to do them XD

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since we were talking about the hot stuff, did you notice that Seju is into face/body licking much !! ch10 +ch21 (face licking), ch74 (shoulder licking).. adorable !!
-> no wonder she taught Sumin how to savour the taste of black coffee

You have a weird connection between two things, Nora =))))))))))))). And who is this in your ava?

ah the avatar is a cool fan cartoon of taeyeon (I only thought its cool but I dont know the artist much)
you can find both here: http://imgur.com/a/vpIzT

yoonie0104

I disagree with you on why Seju played along with Nammi, Nammi saw their relationship as nothing than lousy sex and meaningless.. but Seju let her try it.. see if sex is all what Seju seeks from being in that what Nammi called obsession, greed and meaningless.

Izz

Which part of Seju using the fact that Nammi told Sumin about Seju getting married? And how the effing hell can Seju know that Nammi told Sumin about that?

Seju told Sumin before Nammi told Sumin (ch33 and ch35) !.. and Seju in fact assured Sumin about it the moment she got jealous and angry.
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I wonder tho, which one comes first, the opinion or the scene (context) ?
I mean how can you build the opinion that Seju used her family marriage set up in the giant plan to manipulate Sumin through Nammi when you already know that Seju told Sumin first !!?

The only thing she gets with Sumin is sex. Even "healing her from flu" was all about sex.

Yeah, because that's the only thing Sumin offers Seju? right? And Seju thinks she didn't have the right to ask for more? Out of fear Sumin wont come back? Right?

we don't even know who initiated that sex at all XD !
but wait! isn't Sumin the type that goes: oh my parents died, spread your legs so I can wipe my tears Ms. Choi!!.. I just broke up, keep me busy !.. (every ttttttiiiimmmmmeeee).. with Seju or with whatever girl she has !.. no wait! Sumin dated a high schooler when she was over 24 years old.
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last edited at May 22, 2017 10:30PM

since we were talking about the hot stuff, did you notice that Seju is into face/body licking much !! ch10 +ch21 (face licking), ch74 (shoulder licking).. adorable !!
-> no wonder she taught Sumin how to savour the taste of black coffee

last edited at May 22, 2017 9:45PM

To me sleeping with a friends ex isnt morally wrong.

I'm speechless.
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back to the context, Nammi knew it's wrong, and that's why she was angry at Sumin that she didn't take her anger on her and instead took it on Seju.
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whether my morals are universal or uptight, it seems to be consistent with what Nammi thinks shouldn't be happening in the first place.
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ah, I need to ask my people if they share this moral so I know who to unfriend right away.. life is too short to deal with backstabbers !

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^
what I was trying to say, some stuff in life don't need to be written rules.. they are well known, ethics, etiquettes, morals or whatever. sleeping with a friend's ex is a big NO NO! I don't need legislations to know if its wrong

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When did i say Seju was morally wrong?

I remember it clearly somewhere in the discussion.. you, yoonie0104 and I were discussing this.. mah ! I will look it up later

Lol who made up some rule that you can't sleep with your friends ex? That sounds like a personal moral, not a hard and fast rule.

If I curse your mom, it wont be illegal.. but what does that make me to you ?
ethics or whatever they call it in english..
in a matter of fact, if you wanna talk about rules, there is nothing official against a boyfriends/girlfriends cheating.. doesn't make it right. does it?

but wait, wasn't it you who were against Seju being morally wrong!

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About Nami - I don't mind her wanting to have sex with Seju because they're all adults and they know when to say "no". The question is - will the other part listen? Because Seju seems to be deaf.

wow .. just wow!
my honest advice tho, don't skip Seju's lines that show loyalty and deep love to Sumin because they aren't evil enough

If Seju read Sumin so well then why did she cheat on her? Where was she when Sumin needed comfort? The only thing she gets with Sumin is sex.

I believe we went through the insecurities part.. and the Author herself did say that both were at fault and immature !!

Sumin needs simple comfort and when she can screw up with her. True, she needed some learning, but the instinct was there right from the beginning which chapter 13 is proving best.

Sumin wanted a simple F*ck that night .. she admits it!
Sungji was a virgin.
nothing complicated nothing instinctive..
since you remember this chapter, continue to the part when Seju came and brought porridge to Sumin (maybe she put drug in it to kill Sumin.. evil Seju hehehe)
just by looking at the chair located next to the bed she read the situation.
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no matter what excuse you may come up with, YOU DON'T SLEEP WITH YOUR FRIEND's EX !

One of the main reasons why I don't like Nami even a bit.

I don't blame her tho.. even Sumin wasn't angry at Nammi !
why?
Sumin feelings for Seju is something but not getting angry on Nammi is another thing!

I think this part was a lie because she told Seju she's hoping for her "abomination of relationship with Sumin" (or sth like that) to finally end. She was never a fan of Seju & Sumin so she gave Sumin a little push too, but had nothing bad in mind by doing it - unlike Seju.

what Nammi said: "then that messed up relationship between you two will finally end"

there is no hopping, but wait! were Nammi's intentions innocent ?
mmhm.. constantly hitting (seriously ) on Seju was innocent ?!
no matter what excuse you may come up with, YOU DON'T SLEEP WITH YOUR FRIEND's EX ! period
Nammi wanted Seju and that's a fact since they were young.
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back to the context, why did I remind you of that line?
to tell you NO sumin truly didn't open up to Sungji not even today. only when Sungji saw them.. finally Sumin admitted her connection to Seju.. where is the lie in Nammi's sentence again ?

Sungji reads Sumin better than Seju.

hahahha.. not at all .. not even close ! not even once

And I don't disagree, but we can't say Sungji is the same as the lawyer and will leave ;)

not what I argue, my argument: Sumin is acting the same way.
back to ch23, read her lines, go again to Sungji break up talk in both ch56 and 63.. read it closely.. same exact points.

what truly matters at this point is Sungji's feeling about all this ⚇

"I love you" ^^

that awkward "I love you" before Sumin DECIDED to drop her off, blatantly lie to Seju not even bothered to give her a lame excuse to spend extra time with Sungji.. Sungji won't be mad or insulted by that you think ?

Btw, Sumin is probably going to have a bite mark. Can't wait to see Seju's reaction, haha!

well, depends on what Sumin would wear XD
what I can assure you tho, she will try to hide it if needed the same way she tried to hide having a date or some business while she was intimate with Sungji ;)

last edited at May 22, 2017 5:33PM

since you brought this:

Even Nami pretty much told her so: I understand where you're coming from since you've been hurt once. Midget, you think too much.

remember that Nammi also told her: "you really live an exhausting life, it's not like you're gonna open up to her. "

but no, Nammi doesn't read Sumin better than Seju nor does Sumin confide to Nammi more than she does to Seju.. I could give examples of that.

I brought up the Lawyer so you could see the similarities in Sumin behavior and that both girls were annoyed by it.
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now, we could go around all the excuses that Sumin has and doesn't have..
what truly matters at this point is Sungji's feeling about all this ⚇

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Izz

it is rather a general behavior that frustrates her other partners, not only Sungji who suffered from that but also the lawyer pointed that out as well .. ch23 (Sangmi words to Sumin last few panels.. very accurate description to what Sumin does to even Sungji)
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in no case did I say that Sumin didn't love Sungji, she did .. but she has this distance from her.. conflicting feelings.. feeling guilty at times and unsure.. you can see this very clearly in her bubble thoughts in ch51 + 52

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Izz

Sumin's own needs were completely pushed aside. And it was a week without sexy times so

you know, this is exactly what I find problematic while you find it nice. I tell you why.. remember when Sungji asked her in ch63:
Sungji: was there ever a time you expected something from me?
Sumin: ...
Sungji: can love exist when you expect nothing in return ?
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even outside the bed room.. Sumin never really demand anything.. not at all. just complying with Sungji's demands.

as the "I love you" part, I really felt it was shocking not only for me but even for Sumin.. is it the timing or the context .. not sure..the way it was said and the way it was received all in all was weird even before the phone rang .. however I posted above the "I Iove you" that Sumin said in ch69, that one was sensual and you can actually feel it from your screen.. that's the difference .
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roamsl

You're welcome :)

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roamsl

yes I agree with you.

if these are the two scenes:

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and yoonie0104

here is one of the most beautiful scenes from SungjiXSumin IMO,

Izz

if you mean that Sumin is very shy means that she is back to her old self, then let me break this down:

Sumin never ever changed from being shy about addressing her sexual needs, in a matter of fact, she sometimes keeps her pants on even during sex, she flinches if Sungji touches her ass..you can see this in ch30, ch46, ch69 and this chapter. However, this does not mean that she is now more innocent compared to the times she was with Seju, remember, Seju and Sumin were doing it since they were in college years or something.. Sumin wouldn't need to say anything or address it to Seju after all this time.

shyness =/= innocence or childish.

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roamsl and Izz

I really tried getting what you meant by the similarities between this chapter and ch8 (open Sesame) chapter.. could not feel it.. do you mind elaborating a bit ?

yoonie0104

So why the hell do I feel there is the lack of emotions in this chap? Aside from the famous "I love you", all I could see are two horny girls go at it +.+

Dont know .. but if you want to compare emotions, ch 69 surely surpasses ch81

roamsl and yoonie0104

well, yeah.. it is one hell of scene that shows a very daring Sungji, total opposite of the before cheating Sungji who was shy to even let Sumin take her short off.
but I could also understand..
nothing disturbing.. she tells her, this the only one you gonna get you little cheater! hehehe you better like it

Oh? That was nice =))))), at least I know there is emotion in those wild sex =)))))

I personally saw multiple emotions in that chapter.. more than any of their sex scene even their very first one.

btw, Izz if you are into comparing love scenes, the nearest will be ch3 to ch81.. huge difference, eye contact and mood wises.

The first time she said it (when Sumin had hurt her back), it felt weird because the moment was not really good to say it and the way Sungji chose to say it was childish. But this time it felt sensual, honest and real

not the moment, the mood and the way..

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yoonie0104

yes in ch69, Sungji asked if it was too dark for Sumin to see it (referring to her private parts)
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yes, it is actually one of my favourite scenes for Sungji, Sumin held her forehead, kissed her and said: I love you.
Sungji teared.

Izz

for real, do you think both were into it ? and do you think Sungji's "I love you" was sensual or something ? or did it feel a bit off to you ?
I wanna know how you sensed it

btw, they've got some moves, none of them are innocent about XD

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roamsl

I have noticed one thing in the latest chapter. First panel, Sungji put her hand underneath sumin's blouse just about over her left breast/chest and sumin had this shocked/surprised face

yes!!! I don't know why .. it's not the first time Sungji takes Sumin's cloths off.. something is very odd !!!
and look at Sumin as Sungji asks her to go down on her!!
what the hell