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Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Excellent.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Story ruined by extremely poor layout.

Oeconomist
SHY discussion 03 Aug 23:57
joined Jun 6, 2021

She still needs to grab by the nose each of those two fellows who spilled her Kissip, and get proper compensation.

joined Jun 6, 2021

The color of her pupils is basically black. The colored area, surronding the pupil, is the iris.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

You don't need impure water; you need water, impure or not.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Clueless spin-off.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

I casually knew a neighbor who was a graphic artist for a company that made male-homosexual pornographic films. He was homosexual himself, and said that he'd been accurately warned that he'd be groped.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

As Mark Twain noted, the one short-coming of dogs is that they do not live nearly long enough. I regret the scanlator's loss.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Cliff-hangers are appropriate to stories that have weekly installments; they are not appropriate to quarterlies.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Start work at 3am and was already home by 7.30am?

Wow, I'm jealous.

Might not be her only job.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

I do think this plot will go somewhere stupid,

Hahaha! Yup!

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Well, her phone set would probably be rejected by the network, she's unlikely to have many bills or coins dated on or before 2011, and she has a legal identity shared with a teen-age girl. But maybe the author will handle these matters plausibly.

joined Jun 6, 2021

why do you write like it's 1821? are you practising for an academic paper? are you the captain of a high school debate club?

I don't, nope, and no. I have to choose:

If I write casually, then a shit-pie will exploit the ambiguities of casual discourse.

If I write carefully, but still with just the terms that people use when writing casually, then it gets long, and a shit-pie will attack it for the length.

And, if I write formally to keep it from getting long, then a shit-pie will attack it for the formality.

So I just use my ordinary way of writing and of speaking.

joined Jun 6, 2021

DY4Y—

Previously, you argued some more, and then sought the last word by saying that there should be no more arguing because this wasn't the place for it. Now you return to the argument, after again saying that this isn't the place for it. Spare us, would you?

The word “dialect” isn't magical. You can no more excuse poor word skills on the part of a thousand people by noting that they have a dialect than you can excuse poor word skills on the part of one person by treating her usage as an idiosyncratic dialect. I explained what made proper English in my earlier comment. There are indeed some dialects that are distinct yet equally proper, but none of them use “me” as a nominative, because that robs the case form of its utility.

last edited at Jun 30, 2021 9:58PM

joined Jun 6, 2021

"Me and a legendary witch" isn't proper English.

There's no such thing as proper English

Nonsense. Without any rules, a language is reduced to meaningless squeaks and squiggles. Proper English is that which holds onto those rules that make it most effective at communication, not merely in the moment but in the future. The reason that the pronouns have retained distinctive case-forms is that they usefully reduce ambiguity.

Before you attempt to mount a counter-argument, recognize that it is only the rules of English that make it possible to interpret claims against which you wish to argue, and only the rules of English that make it possible for you to say anything meaningful, even when what you say is wrong.

joined Jun 6, 2021

A sharp decline from the first to the second chapter, with over-the-top pandering.

Oeconomist
Semelparous discussion 29 Jun 11:12
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I'm starting to give up on this series because its pacing is just a trainwreck. The drama seems very forced and unearned. The world building just isnt there. The characters are very poorly developed. It seems like a clusterfuck of ideas with no glue keeping it together

The plot is a thin excuse to show girls [1] flouncing-around in skin-tight clothes or nude, [2] having sex, and [3] getting terribly injured or brutally slaughtered. It's sadistic, misogynistic porn.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

And while your remark is true it completly misses the point of my original post

I didn't miss the point; I saw no reason to express agreement or disagreement with your main thesis.

But, if you want my opinion, then I'd say that you are right in-so-far as stories should show rather than tell (that is to say that they should convey the story by describing what would be witnessed), but as the story develops, and becomes far less comedic, one way or another it requires more world than if it had just stayed a comedy, so the author has to do more world-building. However, even setting aside how the world is presented to the audience, it is not well constructed.

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Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Begging your pardon,

You haven't got it, because you're repeating things already said, some of which were never contested and the rest of which have been met with points that you're just ignoring.

I don't think it's worth getting in a protracted discussion about, because you'll just get frustrated.

And, yet, here you are, doing your best to get the argument about whether the distinction was worth noting or defending back off the ground after it was basically done.

joined Jun 6, 2021

With every new Touhou work, Reimu becomes a bit more stupid.

In the case of this work, it's even true that Reimu is made more stupid as the work progresses.

I find it really annoying.

Oeconomist
Yoru to Umi discussion 27 Jun 11:57
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This manga wasn't advertised by the author or by the publisher as yuri.

I don't see how that is in any way relevant.

That's silly. It would be relevant if it were advertised as yuri, and thus it is relevant that it was not.

The manga clearly presents a two girls who obviously have deeper feelings for each other,

Deep feelings don't have to be sexual or romantic.

only for the author introduce an artificial relationship ceiling that makes little sense within the story itself.

It makes fine sense if you recognize more than one dimension of possibilities.

It was the story of two girls.

One of which clearly enjoys seeing the other in her swimsuit, while the other girl enjoys the view of the first girl's legs in the water while she is swimming. Hmmm.. now what could be going on there?

Not what you'd hoped.

I don't see that every story about two girls has to be yuri

You might have a point if this this was a story about two girls talking about homework, but it clearly went beyond that.

Again, there is more than one dimension of possibilities. One person can like another so much that she'd die for him, without sexual or romantic desire, or be overwhelmed with such desire without being willing to die for him.

Oeconomist
Semelparous discussion 27 Jun 11:04
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The popularity of sadistic, misogynistic Japanese pornography saddens me.

Also I don't know what this guy is talking about? Not that I deny what they said, it's just that I don't know why they felt to just blurt it out like that here? Is it some cathartic kinda thing?

I've been looking for something redeeming in this series. I said what I did at the point in which I'd given-up.

Oeconomist
Yoru to Umi discussion 27 Jun 06:49
joined Jun 6, 2021

yuri-baiting manga like this one

This manga wasn't advertised by the author or by the publisher as yuri. It got tagged as yuri by some scanlators and scanlation sites that made a leap.

It was the story of two girls. I don't see that every story about two girls has to be yuri, that every story about two girls that isn't yuri needs to have a notice, that every story about two boys has to be yaoi, that every story about two boys that isn't yaoi needs to have a notice, that every story about a boy and a girl needs to be about a heterosexual relationship as such, nor that every story about a boy and a girl that isn't about a heterosexual relationship as such needs to have a notice.

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

Differences between time periods are fluid anyway

The boundary between two successive periods is fuzzy. But the Mediaeval Period and any post-Renaissance period are separated by one or more intermediate periods of many decades; there's no ambiguity.

many things that we'd associate with post-medieval times aren't a thing in this fantasy world, e.g. there's no gunpowder.

True enough, and I've already mentioned the absence of a Reformation; but that's not a refutation of the point that this world is not like the Mediaeval Period, and is socio-economically more like a post-Renaissance period.

So overall, this world is very much supposed to be a generic fantasy setting, because that's literally what it was from the very beginning.

Sure; and, if it were just called that, it would have been pointless to note that it weren't Mediaeval.

If a story were said to be in Japan of the Kamakura Period, but the socio-economics were more like those of the Edo Period or Meiji Period, and someone said as much, then it's likely that no one would have responded with a dressed-up “No one cares!” Instead, there'd probably be a few nods, some mention of inconsistencies, and that'd be it.

last edited at Jun 27, 2021 6:39AM

Oeconomist
joined Jun 6, 2021

I know it's the typical cliche "tomboy" and "girly girl" look, but something about their designs just feel right. Maybe it's the author's art style?

I think that the art is remarkable.