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Stannis
Liberty discussion 09 Feb 20:25
joined Jul 26, 2019

Quite simply the author will take us out of the usual somersault or liz will leave a letter to her senpai like "adios amigos" and return home and collapse crying in front of maki ...
And either a compassionate reaction from a maki or a rejection that would be deserved.

last edited at Feb 9, 2020 8:27PM

Stannis
Liberty discussion 09 Feb 20:10
joined Jul 26, 2019

Liz is so so weak that her becomes a caricature ... it was enough from the start to say no to the advances of her senpai but no she barely pushed back ...
I hope a punishment with maki who will immediately guess that something is wrong and that she finds herself in depression, I know it's sadistic but it's too easy to sleep with her senpai and take pleasure and after regret ...

joined Jul 26, 2019

And at the end of this chapter we know that there will not be a chapter in February but for March 27th.

joined Jul 26, 2019

Your logical is too easy ….With you the story and the manga would already be over …
Moreover you must not forget one thing in relation to your preferences even if aki is a beautiful and honest person, yori has fallen completely in love with himari, and his feelings cannot be swayed by the wind.

last edited at Feb 6, 2020 8:24AM

joined Jul 26, 2019

Yeah platonic, no emotion in this chapter and the meaningless final sentence, next.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I rather believe that this is the opportunity for kaoru to confess a uta on the possible cheating of reicchi but also of risako ... to unpack his bag and to precisely evolve it positively.
Also for the story how do you want uta to come back if kaoru doesn't call her ?
Finally kaoru does not just make a crisis because it is all alone but that it remembers the vision of reicchi and risako on the way, it is different!
Especially since uta is not aware of the actions of her brother or of risako.

last edited at Jan 29, 2020 9:37PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

This is possible because kaoru until now was locked in its shell, unable to handle a personal situation.
By the force of things she realizes that her whole relationship was superficial, that reicchi didn't love her as much as she did, that risako wasn't a real friend...
Her desire to recall uta is a kind of SOS, his last hope, hes lifeline. She doesn't trust either reicchi or risako anymore and her anxiety attack in an empty room is like what she has left: nothing left

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Yes, these are just guesses, but when I speak of regret I think of the fact that Tsugumi must be very sorry that she never called Midori, whether it was during her brutal disappearance in college or after some apparently unfortunate events. That she kept her number and that she spoke so often about Midori to her daughter I think she must have felt unhappy and never dared to take the first step to call her and apologize.
I hope that flashbacks or finding letters or pictures in the tsugumi boxes kept by the aunt will tell us more about how tsugumi felt during this time.

last edited at Jan 23, 2020 4:49PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

For me it makes this story even sadder than it is that Tsugumi died with so much regret. Without having been able to confess her feelings towards Midori or a separation forced by events.
The fact that Midori herself is becoming more and more concerned about their past and what their true relationship was makes it all the more dramatic.
I hope that the duo haru and Midori can move in the right direction and avoid all her mistakes which seem to come from a very bad communication between Midori and tusgumi...

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I don't even know if risako's even looking for a totally loving relationship with kaoru. It's more like something more unhealthy, like I want to be kaoru's best friend and nobody else between her and me.
Reicchi being the obstacle she uses as a puppet and as a psychological pressure tactic against kaoru.
When she told Kaoru to ask Reicchi to make a baby it was a perfectly calculated request. She wants to make it clear once again that reicchi is not the right person for her, that she imagines.
Her final goal? She seems to be fascinated by kaoru, something she herself must have difficulty describing, love or possession, maybe both.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Oh god I saw ch 30. Kaoru has an emotional dependence on Uta. Run, Uta, run

Didn't she always had it since Reiichi barely confort Kaoru most of the time and Kaoru end up get confort to Uta much to Uta's demise who feel treated just as her brother's substitue.

Except that kaoru seems to have become aware of the true relational objectives of risako and reicchi. Her dream is not trivial because we feel that reicchi will comfort kaoru out of pity and that risako pretends to make fun that reichi leaves her for her ... at the end during her anxiety attack she seems to say that there is no one else to help her and that's when uta's phone rings ... I have the impression that we are getting closer to a sort of outcome for kaoru even if its remains fragile. Basically there is only uta to help her.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

We still feel that we are approaching a certain denouement with the kaoru-reii-risako trio.
We are coming at a moment where kaoru is practically decided to know what reii thinks. There will inevitably be a conversation between the two of them with questions from kaoru such as : have you seen risako lately ? according to reii's answer, we might get a confession and finally that he's in love with risako and that he married kaoru for the wrong reasons...
Then let's be crazy, once reii clear, an attempt of risako to try in a moment of weakness of kaoru to take advantage of it... and the desperate kaoru is either fooled or she decides to end it and fire risako... then everything is allowed to think at least about a reconciliation with uta and to discuss about their future relationship.I still think kaoru will need uta to rebuild and move forward.
All this will take some time but at the same time uta will normally have solved her family problems especially with her mother.

last edited at Jan 8, 2020 7:47PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Exellent summary ^^ for the moment all went as I expected, the flashback on kaoru which explains why she came today with more major information on : reicchi hardly noticed kaoru, at least not as a good friend.
That risako is a kind of sociopath without too many emotions. She does things in a hyper-pragmatic way without taking into account the emotional consequences. she is manipulative and cold.
The death of kaoru's mother turned the situation upside down.

From all this we can deduce that Risako has feelings towards Kaoru, that after the death of Kaoru's mother, she coldly asked reiichi to be in a relationship with Kaoru again, but that they would remain in a "relationship".
That kaoru has definitively fallen into denial from then on and because of the shock doesn't want to face any more emotional problems.
Reichi love crazy risako and not kaoru...

What might happen, end of the flashback in 2 chapters, then back to uta and we will surely have a flasback on her too.
Kaoru who wakes up little by little doesn't trust neither a reicchi nor a risako anymore, which will forcefully end up provoking a "break".
Return from uta it seems to me now inevitable and the story will end on this final arc, to know how the relationship between uta and kaoru will evolve.

last edited at Jan 8, 2020 9:01AM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I rather think that at the death of kaoru's mother reicchi had pity and risako who is ultra pragmatic pushed reiichi to become kaoru's boyfriend…
Kaoru being in total depression couldn't refuse because the fear of being alone was very strong. Because I'm sure she was aware that reiichi changed her mind while he was with risako... but her mother's death was the key moment that made kaoru start living in denial.
Reicchi is just a pawn that risako uses.

joined Jul 26, 2019

She will go out with the guy but will realize that contrary to what she had dreamed, it doesn't work and she always ends up thinking about kurumi ... then follows a new confession that kurumi is really the only one she loves in the end and that the past is the past ^^ end of the drama !

joined Jul 26, 2019

Where I agree is that they are capable of not declaring that they love each other even if they admit it deep down inside.
Now konatsu seems more advanced on her feeling towards koyuki, she just seems to wake up about it, let's see.... what's sure with them is that in any case we'll have a lot of chapters to come to a conclusion!
The next discussion might be tense though because I had a hard time seeing konatsu confess everything she feels to koyuki and I hope koyuki won't swallow it all and dig deeper.
It's when you think you're at the end of the tunnel that it ends with "what" because they are so complex!

joined Jul 26, 2019

At the moment the one that shows the most signs of romantic feelings such as jealousy, envy, guilt, their first special encounter, anxiety, their special bonds with them, depression, egoism, is konatsu.
For koyuki she simply ignored her own feelings, too busy opening up to others, but seems to want to fix everything and really care about konatsu other than thinking. Because at first in the history ,koyuki seemed to be the one who was more attracted to her.

Then again, what's happening right now is consistent to what happened very early on with Konatsu hoping Koyuki also thought of their first meeting as special and being disappointed that Koyuki didn't have a deep reason for coming to talk to her in the first chapter. Back then Koyuki already had no clue that Konatsu wanted to hear a different answer because she wasn't concerned with her feelings, and it's telling that in this chapter she thinks back to their first meeting as well when realizing how much their time together means to her. I wouldn't be surprised if the matter came up during their upcoming talk.

Of course it's coherent, that's why I like this series, a lot of details, a lot of harmless actions that today are not. Details like on the sms that koyuki sends to apologize where we see the salamander that was the last message she sent to konatsu when they return by train. So koyuki didn't even communicate since then, as if konatsu wasn't a concern anymore.
The author is picky and precise like the manga shingeki no kyojin (attack on titan).
As you say, by remembering the memories she'd be willing to go back totally to their relationship from the beginning.
Koyuki seems to finally want to hear how konatsu is feeling and I hope konatsu will empty her bag completely because on the one hand it will do her a lot of good and on the other hand koyuki will really understand that she's so special to her.
Now what makes the charm of this story is that the author leaves all the necessary time for the evolution of the characters' relationships.
So even if it doesn't end in yuri I'll still appreciate it, but if the author decides to go towards a love relationship and still take as much care to tell it would be the best of the best!
In any case I often go back to appreciate all the little scenes or mistakes that seem trivial but that led to the current situation.

joined Jul 26, 2019

At the moment the one that shows the most signs of romantic feelings such as jealousy, envy, guilt, their first special encounter, anxiety, their special bonds with them, depression, egoism, is konatsu.
For koyuki she simply ignored her own feelings, too busy opening up to others, but seems to want to fix everything and really care about konatsu other than thinking. Because at first in the history ,koyuki seemed to be the one who was more attracted to her.

joined Jul 26, 2019

A summary please?
I don't think we can expect too much about a possible romantic relationship in the next chapter... already they have to reconcile and say what they think and then maybe with time it will evolve into a more loving relationship or … not !
But today no possibility is ruled out one way or the other!

joined Jul 26, 2019

It seems to me that the childhood friend feels more than friendship for the heroine...
The teacher kuro is not a monster, let's not exaggerate, for the moment they both find their account and relations we will say more focused on sex there are plenty of them in real life.
Of course she's a teacher and the other one a student so it's not too "natural"...
But that's what will make the following interesting, because there is the usual triangle!

joined Jul 26, 2019

Gale posted:

Oof. The fact that her mother was easily able to suggest inviting over Kaede, but wasn''t even sure who Konatsu was? I felt that one. If Konatsu heard that, she'd probably scream. What an intense and turbulent friend triangle.

Luckily she managed to pull it off at the end, I mean, helping her daughter... but yeah that hurt lo/

At the same time koyuki quickly cut short kaede. After koyuki's explanations his mother even understood that konatsu had done things that even she (his mother) couldn't do. Her mom definitely understood (and the dad secretly listening to her ^^) that konatsu is the most important friend for koyuki...
After the author is very strong to support some details, this dialogue is not innocent, it shows that koyuki didn't even make the effort to invite her best friend home unlike kaede, a sign that she missed a lot of things as a close friend like not telling konatsu that their meeting was special, to forget to send the sms when she's in tokyo, to forget to insist when she's surprised with kaede that konatsu comes to eat a cake with them, not to tell her but kaede these university choices, in short a lot of details that show the "mistakes" that koyuki hadn't even noticed.
Except in this chapter where we see her more upset than ever and understand at the end that she made a mistake.

joined Jul 26, 2019

Finally do not forget the kid who will enter the club, it seems to me that we see him stealthily several times in the manga in the background ...

He's a first year so he only started appearing a couple chapters ago when they moved up a year. If he's going to be an actual character, I think he will factor in once Koyuki has to leave club activities behind to focus on her exams and later if the manga will still go on once Koyuki graduates, to show Konatsu's third year. I really doubt he'll be anything more than background fluff though, so far the story has worked with just the two main characters plus Kaede, who is still going to be around once Koyuki graduates.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch19#21 it looks like he is there and it seems to me in another older chapter and that he was not necessarily in school. But amazing this manga hides a lot of little things or fills with details.

Yes it is true that we are not used to seeing new characters apart kaede, and even fuyuki, the father and mother of koyuki.
I think her can open up new perspectives, necessarily given that koyuki will almost no longer be in the club (she will come to visit anyway). I do not think that the author will move quickly until the end of the school year, we will surely see other evolutions, new sensations of heroines.Normally after that they will get closer and talk to each other much more easily.
Why not for the first time a feeling of jealousy of koyuki seeing the young boy become close to konatsu, would be a feeling that she never felt contrary to konatsu.

joined Jul 26, 2019

At least as I thought it needed that clash for koyuki to wake up...
Contrary to some it was obvious that the person who was behaving selfishly lately was koyuki.
Konatsu did everything to help her, to get her out of her loneliness and normal that she takes it badly afterwards, finally all her efforts turn against her with koyuki who goes out with friends, kaede behind her back, doesn't ask to go out anymore and especially doesn't notice that konatsu isn't doing well and doesn't reassure her...
Moreover koyuki explains it well at the end that she made no effort to know how konatsu felt just taking advantage of what she gave him.
Nice evolution of the mother too who gave an excellent advice to her daughter.
Now be careful, nothing is won, we'll have to see if konatsu hasn't closed herself too much and reject koyuki but there's little chance, the two of them will FINALLY be able to say what they feel for each other.
Anyway, their relationship is still much more advanced than a classic friendship, I can't wait to see where it will lead us later.
Finally do not forget the kid who will enter the club, it seems to me that we see him stealthily several times in the manga in the background ...

Stannis
1 x ½ discussion 14 Dec 18:38
joined Jul 26, 2019

Very good new chapter ^^

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

It's actually unclear. Midori thinks they weren't close, especially since Tsugumi never kept in touch with her, but she did only keep Midori's phone number and talked about her to Haru, so it's being implied that she did consider Midori more special than others. There's a chance that Midori simply didn't pick on it, as she was distant from everyone else so she might not have a point of reference how close Tsugumi really was with everyone else compare to her.

If Midori hadn't even realized that tsugumi loved her much more than a simple friend, and that she could never confess to her, which would explain why she kept Midori's phone number and that she talked about it often to haru…
Tsugumi turning to a teacher or other by default....
The most dramatic thing would be that haru and Midori discovered that tsugumi had feelings of love with mido and that she did not feel it. It would be even more depressing.