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I love this manga. How wholesome and cute it is. But I can't stand context tag...because you know darn well that the two will never ever get together. But there is always that slightest chance that it might happen. So you torture yourself the entire time holding onto that sliver of hope. Only to know you'll get crushed because it will never happen.

It do be like that.

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crunch crunch crunch

lmfao nothing should be crunching down there

The hotel adorns the beds in every room with Chex Mix to create an intimate atmosphere.

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Gonna do the author's work for them here and assume prior "getting fucking fingered while asleep" consent.

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Boku To discussion 09 May 20:17
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Forget "love triangle" this is a goddamn constellation.

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This is gay culture.

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I was under the impression that the parent-teacher conference was the first time Mina and Yae had seen each other pretty much since Yae's wedding, but this chapter seems to indicate that not being the case?

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That kiss probably tasted like shit lol

Right? never understood why people kiss one another after sucking dick or something like that

Imo if you won't kiss someone who sucked you off you don't deserve to be in a relationship.

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I must be thoroughly genre-broken given I anticipated the twist from the moment she sees Maki looking sad.

Regarding tagging: I understand the site staff generally prioritizes spoiler sensitivity, but I think it's worth considering reworking tag functions so that readers don't just stumble into things they'd rather not be seeing. Even something as small as letting folks hide the tags UI if they want to elide the possibility of spoilers, but also potentially enabling alerts set to specific tags so someone can back out even if they do have them hidden.

Knowing next to nothing about web dev, obviously I'm first to recognize I've no idea how much work this would entail. I do feel, though, that encouraging robust tagging is the best option in terms of community health. The potential of someone encountering content that can seriously fuck them up even using all information at their disposal is a shame.

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Heterosexual love triangles are exactly what this manga needed.

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oh my god the comments are something. I guess everyone there who reads this is reading it because they identify with tazune and are rooting for the uppity women to get put in their place

That kind of guy makes me really wish I wasn't a guy myself, sometimes.

Edit 2: where did you find those comments? Even looking for them on purpose, I couldn't find anyone siding with Tazune. I only searched on Mangadex and Mangakakalot though.

I mean, even earlier in this thread there were people defending Tazune's bullshit. It mostly cleared up when he actually hit her on-page, which imo is remarkably indicative of how discussion about misogynist trash tends to go irl.

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Yeah, Minami really needs those Japanese trope bandages to cover those Japanese trope...gashes...Iori caused with her...Japanese trope gashing...hits? I mean, those bandages are medically necessary and are not at all a manga/anime trope. They are meant to be taken very literally and seriously, why I myself have hit my head on a low doorframe and immediately a huge flesh-colored, bulbous, hairless protuberance appeared, and get this, it already had a bandage on it! Good thing I’ve watched a lot of anime because I knew that it would be gone completely by the time the next scene rolled around. But it was serious! Very serious.

I can't tell where your sarcasm is pointing, tbh.

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My (not-serious-but-also-wish-it-will-happen-just-for-the-lolz) predictions:

Next chapter, Akira runs away from Hime to avoid replying to Hime. Five chapters later, while still avoiding Hime, Akira talks to five other characters for advice, who all account to her how they have been confessed to by childhood friends. Their backstories help Akira realize that it is bad to avoid replying to Hime and finally approaches Hime to reject her.

After being rejected, Hime then spends three chapters talking to other characters, who tell how how they have been rejected by childhood crushes, and she realizes that she needs to move on from Akira. Akira, sad that her friend isn't talking to her, talks to six other characters for help, and they help her realize that she can still be friends with Hime.

Akira talks to Hime, and they become friends again. Cue in obligatory flashback to their childhood, when they first became friends. Fast forward to the present or future, where Hime says, "Turns out the real Kanojo Ni Naritai Kimi to Boku was inside us all along." The last page is a panel of all the characters walking next to each other towards the beautiful sunset, smiling.

The End.

I think we've all learned a little something here today, hm?

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Stone power.

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he/she(because it wasn't specified)

The most respectful address if you're unsure is generally just a neutral "they".

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Tetsu doing some pretty solid emotional support in this chapter considering his age. It is a shame that no one double-checked with Mogumo whether they were on okay terms with the sister who just shows up at their workplace and starts misgendering them.

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Ueda's got a real penchant for garbage heap senseis, huh?

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self indulgent whining.

Nothing wrong with self-indulgence if the part of yourself you're indulging is "it really fucking sucks to see domestic violence handled so clumsily".

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sure enough the chapter 15 could be the last but fingers crossed that there could be shorts or side stories as well. Or maybe it’s saying the last one as in of volume 3?

Nah, that sort of note is inserted to indicate a "wrapping things up for good".

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I think I'm coming from a POV that's different from most of you, but I'm absolutely not the type who thinks any creator has any responsibility to be "conscious" or "aware" of what they make - that there are any moral or ethical considerations that have to be taken when creating. A creator only has to create.

Making so mich of it, with this humanities-department (and I say this as an English major) deep-reading cultural critique of domestic abuse is misguided and foolhardy when it's clear that this series uses violence as a means to an end or to set the stage for plot points rather than being "about" the violence as a critique or conversation instead.

Creators don't have any innate responsibility to an audience via their work, you're right, but likewise an audience has every right to dissemble, analyze, and (yes) condemn a work on the basis of its messaging. No one here is obligated to take Fusoroi no Renri at face-value, or to pretend that Mikanuji's intention is the only thing coloring the manga that we end up reading.

react to the manga as you will, it's your right - but I don't believe that "calling the creator out" or judging the series based on your personal standards of right and wrong and responsible is worth it or defensible on a wider scale.

What do you suppose is the role of critique, which is an entirely subjective pursuit? I agree that there are many types of nonconstructive and/or haranguing criticism, but tbh if we allow that authors should fuck up routinely so too should the people consuming their work.

To be very clear, I only mean with regard to the piece itself. If people were to go harass Mikanuji because of this bad plotting and tone, that'd definitively be over the line.

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Lilium discussion 02 May 21:42
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Chika/honoka tag?

Shouldn't this be added?

Maybe not since there's no confirmation that Honoka reciprocates?

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any upload: *is tagged poly*

comment thread: "Oho! We'll see about that, won't we!"

Anyway, this was excruciatingly cute and I need more content riding this wavelength.

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Specifically, that this series wants us to care about Minami’s traumatic history and distrust of intimacy and then has Iori hitting her at the drop of a hat isn’t smart. It renders the drama unconvincing while the drama makes those attempts at lighthearted moments grossly discomfiting.

IT KEEPS GETTING NASTIER WHAT IS EVEN HAPPENING

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Image Comments 28 Apr 12:50
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Talk about "Truth Unveiled".

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I don't know if this was asked before, but what exactly is Sei's goal in letting Mochida know she's gay and having a relationship with a high schooler? I don't really see how that helps her in any way, unless she somehow knew she would tell Haruki all about her relationship with Aya.

I think it’s more or less in line with what we’ve seen of Sei up to this point. She stays seething in the closet in order to keep her livelihood intact, then engages in the most toxic sorts of relief to destress.

In this case, when Mochida tries to hold her sexuality over her head, Sei realizes that she essentially holds all of the power in that moment - they’re alone, Mochida is seen as a goof-off, and there’s a degree of sexual threat too - and decides to engage in some pretty juvenile one-upping. She’s basically flexing a “yeah, I am; who the fuck are you even going to tell?” It’s very in the vein of traditional abuser tactics, like a lot if Sei’s behavior.

As for the Mochida's reasoning thing, I apologize for how unclear I was. I was actually asking why Mochida told Haruki about Aya and Kuro's relationship. She obviously wants Aya to stay with Kuro so she can hook up with the math teacher, but I'm struggling to understand why she thought that telling Haruki about their relationship would actually help her.

From how she’s been presented my take is just that it was typical teen goss combined with a bit of wanting to badmouth the woman her crush is crushing on to clear her nerves. I don’t really see Mochida being quite so manipulative; if she sabotages Sei it’ll likely be a decision she makes in the moment.

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“Deadly semen” seems like one of the few ways you could make a relationship involving a lesbian demon feel skin-crawlingly puritanical.