This smells like NTR shit. Not interested.

I 100% don't see that happening at all

Good for you. But I do see it happening.

Anyway, dropped. I don't have time for this sort of crap.

I sure hope Aya has a good explanation. She's gonna need it. lol

Aya: It's just a Prank Bro (Gone Wrong) (Gone Sexual)

I meant how is she gonna explain the other girl to Marika. Aya said she's not fooling around with other girls, so she's got some explaining to do.

I can tell everyone and their mother is losing their minds over the sex scene, but I don't give two fucks about that.

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I sure hope Aya has a good explanation. She's gonna need it. lol

This smells like NTR shit. Not interested.

She's a JK, and a first year at that. She definitely lied about her age.

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It really hurts me to see that, she was trying, she didn't know how but she tried but her in law convinced her that she would do more harm than good staying like she is... Ah but the father? nah that's fine, he's just awkward that's all! it really irritates me.

The main difference is that he's still there. He's never been portrayed as a great, or even good, dad; he just didn't abandon them.

He didn't leave but wasn't a father either. We're clearly told they were raised by their grandmother after their mom left.

At the end of the day, their family was a mess in general, so blaming everything on the mom wouldn't make any sense. I think even Kaoru realized this when he had his little flashback.

This part to me seemed a little odd? Like, I feel the mother got away a bit too easy here. A mother abandoning their kids for a decade with no warning, and there was only a little yelling and then forgiveness

This series is really cute and wholesome, and my immediate thought is maybe its too wholesome and sweet to talk about these serious issues, but it handled death and grief quite well.

But this series never has been about transgression and justice--Kaoru basically saying "Don't try to get us caught up in your shit" and Miss Sunflower saying, "Please come back . . . as a customer" was some top-tier shade-throwing. If she comes back at all, I expect it will be after a rapprochement with the dad.

But Kaoru did realize he was part of the problem in the first place because he didn't stand up for his mom when he should. And we can't forget their father never did much parenting either yet he has gotten largely scot free in all this.

Also, the way I understood the "as a customer" is that she shouldn't come sneaking around like she did this time, but come up front.

Honestly, if either Kaoru or Himawari herself were to play the blaming game with the mom, they would be pretty hypocritical themselves, since they never blamed the dad who didn't do much for them either. In fact, for what little we saw of their childhood, the mom at least made an effort to engage with the kids, while the father was always busy doing his own shit.

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Wow, you really did not understand a single thing about the chapter huh? This isn't about how Shiho is changing, it's about how she has changed. Everything from Kyou to quiting Aki's band happened "gasp" in the past. The story and Shiho we see now is a person still with insecurities and angst but because of her past making an effort not to quit and the fact she is competing at all when before any adversity was met with running away shows how much she has changed. There was so much character development in one chapter it's quite amazing, and really sad you are so stuck on "She bitch me hate" to not see it.

You're misunderstanding Shiho's character flaw. It's not like Shiho runs away from adversity out of angst. Her character flaw is her inability to except she's not number one, and the fact she keeps antagonizing Aki and Yori proves she hasn't changed. She antagonizes Aki because Aki chose Yori over her, and antagonizes Yori because she beat her at love. She still can't stand not being the number one. That proves her lack of development. In fact, the whole reason she challenged Aki is because Shiho wants to get back at Yori. She couldn't beat her at love so she'll (try to) beat her at music. Obsessing over being number one is all there is to Shiho. She's a one-note character.

On that note, I'd like to see what she's gonna do if she loses the challenge. Will she run away from the her current band too? It wouldn't surprise me if she does so.

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are we supposed to feel sorry for her? Because if anything, this chapter just made me roll my eyes.

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How to make an unlikable character more likable ? Just give them a tragic story, add a dead loved one in the mix and a promise and boom.

Do we then have to wait some time for that formula to work? Because apparently the effect is not always immediate.

Glad to see that I'm not the only here who doesn't feel a shred of empathy towards these side characters.

This chasing-after-dead-person-dream reveal is just dumb and forced. Now I don't just hate Shiho, I hate the whole fucking band and this dead character whose name I already forgot, because they're fucking dumb and unnecessary.

We could have had a wholesome story about love between two girls. Instead we get this shit.

Jesus, I forgot how stupidly angry this manga makes some of you guys. Like okay you don't like it, I get it, but somehow your dislike has turned into a seething rage you for some idiotic reason feel compelled to inflict on everyone else.

Obviously this type of layered complicated story telling is too high level for you, you should maybe try something a bit more simple and on your level...like Bluey.

You're kidding, right? There's nothing "layered" or "complicated" about it. This backstory doesn't even explain why Shiho's a bitch. She was like that before Kyou died, and keeps being so even after her death. No character development whatsoever. That's not layered or whatnot. That's just lazy writing.

All there is to Shiho is that she's obsessed with being number one, and every time she can't, she runs away. She ran away from Kyou because she couldn't beat her at music, and ran away from Aki because she couldn't be her number one in love. That's all there is to Shiho. She's a one-note character. That's why people don't like any of this. It's a pointless storyline about a pointless one-note character. And there's no character development and no progression and nothing.

This backstory did explain why the other members of the band put up with Shiho's bullshit, but that's about it. The problem has always been Shiho herself, and this backstory doesn't change anything about her.

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Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? Because if anything, this chapter just made me roll my eyes.

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We kind of knew all this before

Kinda, but we didn't know what kind of love Himawari-san had for the previous Himawari. Now it's more clear she saw her as a mother figure.

Chapter 6 was crazy on another level.

KawaiiSuika posted:
I'm just confused why she says she's never told anyone she loves them. Hasn't she told Sakurako that before? I swear she did.

She has; this was my failure as a PR because JQ and I both know she means "going up to someone you don't know and telling them you like them" but neither of us stopped to ask if that was conveyed in the English. Oops.

If that's what she meant, then maybe "confessing to someone" would have conveyed that meaning better. Just a suggestion.

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It's weird that Ayame clearly loves Miss Sunflower more than friends in multi occasions but no one in the comments section talks about a potential love triangle, or we all accept that Matsuri is the chosen one?

Why choose one when Himawari-san can have both?

I mean it's just the motivation behind her choice. Booking stuff to celebrate doesn't really sound like a very honest attempt at a search. Hence why I was wondering if we just forgot that part of the story and we're just following Asumi the heart-conquerer.

i also forgot that mai is in fact a character and also the reason asumi started this whole crusade, honestly the author could just pretend she never existed and it would probably take a while before anyone notices it

Mai has already said that searching for Mai was silly pretext, she knows what she is doing is a terrible way of actually looking for a person

A pretext? No, searching for Mai was her main objective. It's just that along the way she got addicted to having sex with prostitutes and things kinda got derailed. No idea if the author will ever get things on track again or just forget about Mai entirely though.

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Meanwhile, in Japan its popularity continues to grow. It is currently the best-selling manga of the entire magazine.

Japan also constantly votes Bakugo as the best MHA character, there's no accounting for tastes.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

The corollary for that is just because a lot of people like something it doesn't mean it's good.

True, true. So can we all just agree to like the things we like and leave those who don't like it alone?

You mean be mature on the internet? If only it were so....

Holding back on voicing your opinion is not mature. If anything, being mature would entail that you can handle people who disagree with you.

It depends on your opinion and who you're saying it to. Telling someone their clothes don't fit right when they're trying stuff on at a store is fine. Telling a bride her dress doesn't fit right is really shitty. It's not a one size fits all thing, sometimes the more mature thing is to not engage. This doesn't apply to this thread since I think the majority here is critical, but if there was a thread somewhere where 99% of people wanted to gush about something they like, then jumping in and shitting on it is not mature, it's making voicing your own opinion more important than how everyone else feels.

So, no, I don't agree with that.

That's cool. People aren't gonna agree about everything. Being able to deal with that without getting your pants in a bunch is the mature thing to do. Even more so when it comes to taste, since everyone is entitled to their taste anyway. But again, it's okay that you don't agree.

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Meanwhile, in Japan its popularity continues to grow. It is currently the best-selling manga of the entire magazine.

Japan also constantly votes Bakugo as the best MHA character, there's no accounting for tastes.

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad.

The corollary for that is just because a lot of people like something it doesn't mean it's good.

True, true. So can we all just agree to like the things we like and leave those who don't like it alone?

You mean be mature on the internet? If only it were so....

Holding back on voicing your opinion is not mature. If anything, being mature would entail that you can handle people who disagree with you.

So, it was never axed and the haters are just bullshitting.

Chill, dude. No one was hating on this. I only said this was axed because that's how it looked to me. I mean, if chapter 28 is the intended ending, that's a surprise because there's no conclusion in chapter 28. You don't have to believe me, just go read it yourself. The raws aren't hard to find.

Maybe the bonus charter gives it some sort of conclusion. I don't know. But my point is simply that the ending from the serialization was inconclusive and unsatisfying. That's not hating

Still bullshit: there are only 12 chapters (13 with the bonus one).

And while the end isn't clear cut, like, "and they lived happily ever after and had many science babies", its does end with Misaki "not being against the idea" so it's a positive ending, even if not as definite as some people would like.

Besides, it's been published in a pure shoujo magazine (and it looks like it's one of the rare, if not the only, yuri work in that magazine), so the tropes, tone and aesthetic are to be expected.

As usual: don't like it, don't read it.

You're just making all the wrong assumptions. I didn't say I didn't like it. I said the ending was inconclusive and I still think it is. That been said, I did like it, which is why I hoped the bonus chapter would give it some sort of conclusion.

Also, maybe they grouped the 28 chapters into 12 for the tankobon, but it was published online in 28 parts as you can see here:

https://pocket.shonenmagazine.com/episode/13933686331779315286

Now I hope we can end this pointless argument here, because I'm not hating on the manga.

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So, it was never axed and the haters are just bullshitting.

Chill, dude. No one was hating on this. I only said this was axed because that's how it looked to me. I mean, if chapter 28 is the intended ending, that's a surprise because there's no conclusion in chapter 28. You don't have to believe me, just go read it yourself. The raws aren't hard to find.

Maybe the bonus charter gives it some sort of conclusion. I don't know. But my point is simply that the ending from the serialization was inconclusive and unsatisfying. That's not hating

Miss Sunflower has only had the single romantic attraction in her life,

Himawari-san wasn't romantically attracted to the OG Himawari. Her brother and Yuu-san were totally into her, but for Himawari-san, the OG Himawari was a motherly figure. This is gonna be covered in volume 12 so I'm not gonna elaborate on it. Don't wanna spoil the whole thing.

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I liked it. It was an interesting story.

I don't think it's yuri though. Their relationship isn't romantic and they're fine with that, and I'm fine with that too. But that's not yuri.

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So Himawari-san and her brother didn't have a happy childhood. That's interesting. I hope we'll get more details about that. If we haven't yet. Maybe we did and I just forgot. lol

Welp, I went and read the raws, and overall I thought it was pretty unsatisfying. Nothing ever happens between the MC and her friend because the manga was axed, and the only kiss we get is a forced kiss with the dude.

So yeah, not very satisfying.

Why even bother translating a series that was axed before it's time I'm not complaining, I'm genuinely asking

Well, I heard the last volume has a bonus chapter. Maybe the author managed to give the story some sort of conclusion there. Not sure about that though. I only read the raws from the serialization.

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Welp, I went and read the raws, and overall I thought it was pretty unsatisfying. Nothing ever happens between the MC and her friend because the manga was axed, and the only kiss we get is a forced kiss with the dude.

So yeah, not very satisfying.

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Momoka was all kind of crazy. I don't know why some people think Rin was the one in the wrong here. Nor do I care to find out, to be honest. Suffice to say I totally disagree. Momoka was the one dating dudes in a misguided attempt to get Rin's attention, then getting pissed when Rin thought she was disgusting. Of course Rin would think that, considering what happened with her mom and all. What was Momoka even thinking? Then when they actually get together, Momoka is pushy and jealous, and isn't satisfied unless she gets all of Rin's attention. All the while Rin's just trying to sort out her feelings, because you know, the thing with her mom still weights on her.

Kinda funny that now that Rin caved in and decided to dedicate all her attention to Momoka, the latter is like "are you sure about that, aren't you gonna lose your friends??" Dude, this is what you wanted all along. Why are you acting as you have nothing to do with it?