^Would you say... still?

NanoFate is always healthy.

Everyone ships everyone else with everyone else.

Gosh, now whenever I see Wriggle I get reminded of that "Super Wriggle" image someone showed me (the legendary Super Vegeta pose).

That's pretty tight.

"Her wife" lol

"Then where is all this heat coming from?"
"This heat comes from the fires of HELL in which we will be consumed for all eternity, foul creature."
"Don't threaten me with a good time."

The trickery! The treachery! The lobstery!

Ganbare Shamiko! Become a capable demon who can give indecent hickeys in visible places!

Live and die by the sword Byleth.

^^Considering they don't have claws and their internal anatomy is 100% human, I'd say her tongue is just normal.

This is the only way to truly appreciate the game's physics system.

Now I've seen everything! Again.
I say that a lot.

An honest liar, she is. Daz rite.

And here I thought Luminous Blue was the main source for reptile shipping.

^The OC is a nurse, yeah, but in Japan both are often addressed with "sensei".

Still she is chubby (nothing wrong with that), by anime standards she's more round then her childhood friend in the face if you look closely.

Her legs are also far thicker than the other girls'. Basically she is the "pretty chubby" that anime and cartoons always have. Otherwise sometimes called "thicc" by people who hate spelling.

Yeah, I think I'm gonna abstain from visiting this forum for at least 24 hours, probably closer to 48.

Once again you mistake inconsequential "self-punishment" for actually doing something. Instead of just turning your eyes away, you should probably confront your flaws.

Heck yeah she is. Now she is Shamiko's "producer" and if lots of incredibly creepy idol games/doujins have taught me anything... that position is not platonic.

As to western porn, there are some really funny reaction videos of lesbians looking at "lesbian" porn for the first time and cringing at stuff like the long nails and such.

Not sure why you had to add "Western" there. This is literally true for all cultures where lesbian porn exists (Looking at you Japan, pixelated or not, the basic logic still applies).
Although statistics show that the most viewed porn among women is lesbian porn too, so what is even real anymore, eh?

If a fourth girl comes along, I hope the scenario is even more intense than earthquakes or drunk guys. Maybe it rains shrimp, and the fourth girl is afraid of shrimp?

Deathly allergic to shrimp even. She then would have to spend the entire chapter walking around in a hazmat suit, only to fall in love with Akemi because Akemi still treated her like a human being.

Even better... Akemi ate all the shrimp to save her!

^Okay, does that means they cut/censored content in the English version again? Goddamnit Nintendo.

I think the most unbelievable part of this story up to now is that the sweets shop sold out of everything. That never happens!

Well I don't like harems and this seems like a reaaaal stretch right now. The entire Reina chapter was way too convenient, including perfectly timed double earthquakes. At least Yua seems to actually see her as a mother replacement rather than a romantic interest. Pretty standard parental issues and coping with trying to get other adult's attention instead.

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I think we got somathing mixed up there. In general the main audience for both yuri and yaoi are straight girls. It'saimed at them, because they are the biggest customer base and for Japanese girls yuri is not too extreme to read most of the time. I just straight up don't believer that non-hetero women outnumber straight girls in this case, because that's not what the magazines aim for.

The officially recognized, laser focus on one gender and age group is typical of manga magazines, but the focus on straight people is only an implicit one, as straight people are considered the normal, the default. Particularly in the case of yuri magazines, I don't see why the publisher's Ideal Customer is more important for us to recognize than the people who end up reading and caring about the stuff.

Whether you want to recognize them or put more importance on one or the other is not really relevant. As you said, the data is far from conclusive, but the intention of the advertising and sales departments are not. In sheer numbers it's really hard to deny their point either. There are just not enough lesbians/bis out there to honestly believe that they outnumber the straight reader base for something like this. Of course if you compare what straight girls read in the majority compared to what LGBT girls read, you will find that the percentages shift, but that is natural.
Of course that isn't even including the male reader base, which most likely also outnumbers non-hetero girls.

Yuri Hime does survey its audience, but they don't ask about their readers' sexuality (for better or worse). It doesn't seem like they're "aiming" for any gender or sexuality, just people who are interested in yuri (Yuri Hime S, the "For Him" spinoff that ended up being merged with YH, had about 40% female readers, which is a good example of how the official demographic should be taken with a grain of salt).

Naturally no magazine would shun or ignore their other sources of revenue. Having a target audience does not exclude other audiences. What you market to does not reflect entirely what you actually get. When you look at Shounen battle manga however, something aimed at boys, you will find that the majority there is exactly who it is advertised at. This goes for pretty much any genre.

Yuri is gay (hot take alert), so I think it's unfair to assume that most girls/women who read it and care about it are Totally Straight without any evidence, especially when the available data doesn't support that. It's not a competition, obviously, but it wouldn't be fair to dismiss the queer female readers as "not the real demographic" even if they were outnumbered by Totally Straight Women 2:1.

See, that is not exactly what I meant. Yuri is for everyone and of course lesbians would enjoy it more than straight romance or yaoi, as it literally represents their sexuality. I am just saying in sheer numbers, you will find straight girls are just more likely to buy a magazine than a tiny minority of people.

EDIT: I feel this is going really off-topic now, and you can get banned for that. Sooo... let's leave it at that.

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I think we got something mixed up there. In general the main audience for both yuri and yaoi are straight girls. It's aimed at them, because they are the biggest customer base and for Japanese girls yuri is not too extreme to read most of the time. I just straight up don't believe that non-hetero women outnumber straight girls in this case, because that's not what the magazines aim for.

Actually, there is also a large portion of yuri that is written for and read by a male audiences. That was basically what Yuri Hime S was all about. You can often tell which audience was being targeted by looking at the sort of works being published. Stories like Still Sick, or Bloom into You which are very character and story centric romances are geared more towards women where manga that are less concerned about the actual relationships and more geared towards fan service or cgdct are more likely to be aimed at males. Admittedly there is a ton of overlap but it's disingenuous to suggest there aren't yuri stories out there written for and read by what are basically gender inverted fujoshis.

There are definitely many boys who enjoy yuri too, no doubt about that. And as with lesbians in general, men do fetishize them too, just like fujoshis do gay men. All I am saying is that the main audience for yuri and yaoi are straight girls. Not that there aren't communities of male yuri fans or actual works aimed specifically at lesbian/bi women.

Similarily there are boys who enjoy BL, despite being straight. There are men who watch My Little Pony, a series directed at young girls. Anything is possible and everyone reads what they want. Just purely statistically and target audience wise straight girls will always be the core fanbase for their numbers and general openess to all kinds of sexualities in fiction. Girls who read Shoujo are more likely to be mildly okay with soft yuri, as it spawned from the genre.

PS: Bloom Into You was published in a magazine with boys as the target audience (Dengeki Daioh).

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