Koveras posted:

My read is that this was done for the cheap pun, since, again, I cannot think of any original Russian name for "Yurii Orphanage" that would make linguistic sense. Yuri is a given name, and orphanages and other institutions named after people typically have surnames attached to them. E.g. an orphanage dedicated to Yuri Gagarin would be "the Gagarin Orphanage", but never just "Yuri Orphanage"...

I meant more, that nobody is going to think Russian "yuri" means the same thing as Japanese "yuri" and it's obviously here for a cheap pun. So if you're going to nitpick the obvious, the least you could point out is the fact that Japanese "yuri" is written as, well "yuri". Not "yurii". "Yurii" means nothing in Japanese. In fact the fact author wrote it as "yurii" and not "yuri" makes me think they didn't want people to draw a connection. Then again in that case they could literally choose any other name,

Theory: Her regular sober personality is as grumpy as her orphanage days, but drinking makes her more sociable and open (a real-life side effect of moderate alcohol consumption), which is the side of her she wants to project for Teru.

Oh. That actually... makes a lot of sense. I like it.

Also nobody is going to comment that it's implied that Pepesha always drinks before meeting Teru to the point, Teru wouldn't recognize her when she's sober?

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Lilliwyt posted:

Can i be the kill joy about the orphanage's name ? Just remember that Yurii has not the same meaning in Russia that it had in Japan.

If you're going to nitpick, at least say it's yurii, not yuri.

Hylarn posted:

What concerns me here is that I've enjoyed literally none of her work that I've read

Tender Night is good. Not really a romance though. Manga no Tsukurikata was a trainwreck I agree.

Show by Rock is back with a new main cast (and staff) and the PV makes it look like there'll be some subtext there

You mean new main characters? I can't find anything like that.

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BugDevil posted:

The name doesn't ring any bell

I never read Kodomo no Jikan or any of their other works for that matter either, but apparently it had a lesbian character that was handled really poorly and she was the only one who didn't get a happy ending.

Pretty crude stuff, but quite funny.

Comedy is over the top and stupid and I love it for it. Teacher is great.

Reading it with the conclusion in mind is an interesting experience in its own right.

Honestly, nowadays I rarely read anything without checking ending first, since I no longer have time and energy to invest into something that'll just end badly and waste my feels.

So is there a reason why you two have conflicting information? @kittey said there are 2 confirmed pairings? Not doubting either of you, might just be a difference of interpretation.

Oh it's simply it was ages since I read it and I didn't read all available chapters, so I don't know how canon Akira x Nadeshiko is. I do remember them being pretty subtexty from parts I did read, so I'm not doubting kittey's words, but I can't really confirm 1 way or another. Akechi x Inukai I can 100% confirm though.

BugDevil posted:

Okay, where is this coming from now? The teacher didn't blackmail her at all. She just offered her a deal that has no repercussions if she doesn't agree on it.

Maybe not blackmailing per se, but I'd say the way she's drawn in this last shot and the fact she knows MC's weakness sounds exactly as if she was using it against her and pressuring her to do it, because she knows she won't refuse her offer. In short, she just gave bad vibes to me.

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BugDevil posted:

Oh yeah. That would surprise me if it had a yuri pairing by the end of it. Good one.

Double so since as soon as she was confirmed lesbian, people started to complain and saying how it'll go nowhere for sure since the author is Watashiya Kaworu and as we all know authors never change or improve so if they didn't handle lesbian character well once in their work, it means there's no way they'll get it right next time.

Centaur's Worries actually has real yuri in it?! I thought it was so obviously just subtext... That's a surprise.

Yea, there's at least 1 confirmed yuri side couple, though Hime x Nozomi is even teased by author.

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igenetycs

Joou Sama no Eshi, but fair warning, don't go in expecting a masterpiece.

I really liked comedy and since Yukimori was my favorite character from the start, the fact not only I correctly guessed she's a lesbian since chapter 5, but also that she actually wins at the end felt really satisfying to me. I didn't expect anything since I read it for comedy so having yuri ending was like cherry on top for me.

igenetycs

It's a beautifully crafted webtoon. It's all one person doing the writing, artwork, and even the music! Both seasons are a 10/10 to me, but I think I like the second one even better. I love the way Cecily's relationships with Lachlan and Josette are explored throughout it. It's really beautiful and touching.

Humor was great and I really liked Wisteria as a MC, so I was really disappointed that season 2 was from Cecily's point of view. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I really wanted to read more about Wisteria. arch99 if you are enjoying it so far, you should read author's previous work Always Human as well. She's great writer, though I had some issues with season 2 of that work.

Exhibit A: Sayaka in YagaKimi.

That remind me of how much Sayaka/Yuu arts i saw on the Discord server.

huh, for real? I've only seen some stuff here and there in pixiv.
could I ask you where I could see that art you mention?

"on the Discord server". Most likely Dynasty's.

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I hate blackmailing, but I really like MC, so I guess I'll see how things develop for a bit. At least judging by Sora's reaction, she seems to said it more expecting MC rejecting her, so maybe she won't take advantage of her too much. I hate teacher though.

arch99 posted:

I'd also love any yuri that involves a trans girl and handles that well (also SFW or NSFW). Any thoughts on that?

Very good read.
Pure fluff. Also 2 more pages that aren't added for some reason.
Feelings are one-sided and it's not exactly romance, but still it's interesting story.
Kinda short, but nice read.
Pure comedy.
I personally liked it and think portray is good, but a lot people seems to dislike this series and also romance is kinda only a smart part of it.
It has a transgender lesbian character. There's no romance involving her as of yet, but there seems to be high chance for it in the future.

There's probably a bunch of stuff outside of reader/I don't remember at the moment.

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^ Yea, pretty much.

KueKyuuQ, I think you're generally correct. As we saw so far, Aki was holding her feelings all the time and was 100% supportive of Yori, so she couldn't stand seeing how much Yori was suffering and how Himawari was being indecisive. You could say she got "angry" in Yori's place and pushed Himawari to give Yori a proper answer faster instead of continuing on giving her hope. She got impatient for Yori's sake.

majere posted:

Yeah, this is an example of how to do a love triangle that doesn't feel like shoe-horned in bullshit. It's predictable but it's not just predictable because it's cliche it's predictable because it was actually foreshadowed properly instead of coming out of left field for the sake of lazy shock value.

Yea, though I meant more specifically that unlike usual love rivals that often treat it like competition and don't mind using dirty tricks, she's presented as good person who would be a genuinely good match for Yori. Despite clearly being shown as not a treat to main relationship from the start, she still is so likeable you kinda unwittingly start rooting for her. Sure it wouldn't work if Yori and Himawari were already going out and it's not only way to do it, but it definitely feels fresh.

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Love triangle done right (well at least with some nuance)

@katewarner

Ain't you too angry for some reason? And it's a twist in the story so yes, it's a spoiler by definition. Doesn't matter how old the work is, it's still a spoiler so deal with it.

^ Damn, I'd swear I read story like that somewhere, but I can't remember where.

Based on previous post, igenetycs would totally say that. I know I shouldn't make fun of it, but I couldn't help it.

luinthoron posted:

We'll never stop seeing this conversation here, will we?

Not till some still think Kasumi don't love Sakurako.

Because even her actually saying so isn't apparently enough...

But she doesn't actually mean it and only says it to satisfy Sakurako, so she can keep being lazy!

Also I'm tired of explaining why obvious kisses are kisses and are just poorly drawn.

W rock posted:

Does anyone know where this is from? It looks very similar to Nakatani Nio's art-style~
I've seen it as some "intro" page to many manga's on this site, but now i'm actually starting to wounder if it is an actual manga itself? I would love to know about it if that's the case~ This image is amazing ^^
https://dynasty-scans.com/system/releases/000/017/074/01.jpg

Well yes, because it's cover drawn by Nakatani for Éclair anthology. The story written by her in it is about those characters.

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MagiMaki posted:

I just listed the most overused drama plot points I could think of in an instant. It's not "all" but the most boring ones that came to mind.

MagiMaki posted:

School yuri romance has few drama options anyway.
Nothing too exciting. Casual schoolgirl romance stories will always be the same.

Yea. Sure. Whatever you say.

It's finally here! I love it.

Also for people interested, title means "If we can finish on time" referring to not having to stay for overhours, which is the premise of the series. If they finish on time, they can meet after work.

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Nya-chan posted:

Why would she think she has a chance when Nanoha is dating someone else?

You kinda already answered yourself.

I can understand all too well how a lesbian would be thrilled to know someone she's interested in is also into girls.

elevown posted:

MagiMaki posted:

School yuri romance has few drama options anyway.

-Death of an important person
- Parents / friends that are against yuri for some reason
- Love Rival
- "I have stuff to do, let's see each other in 5 years "

You have really poor imagination if that is all you can think of. Sadly most authors are just like you.

For some reason, this sounds (at least in my head) like a half-hearted attempt at a roast.

It's an accurate assessment. That list is hella unimaginative.

Well, these are the go to cliche drama options. You will see all of them over and over- same for het romance too..
There are ofcourse hundreds of other possibilities- but to come up with something more unique / creative takes a lot more effort.

Thats one of the reasons I dont like love rival- its just one of the 5 obvious go to's for 'we need some drama'. Even if its done in a good way.

My point exactly.

igenetycs posted:

I think you're getting ahead of yourself here. You should at least wait and see how the story handles the character, rather than being so dead-set on hating the very idea of it. I understand that this is as much a reaction thread as a discussion thread, but this is reactionary to a degree that your argument starts to lose its substance.

If the mere existence of a love rival (who obviously won't ruin Nanoha and Chidori's relationship) is enough to make you unable to enjoy any moments at all between the main couple, I guess you'll need to put it on hold for a while. You'll be missing out on a lot of great series with that attitude, though.

I was speaking more in general, rather than specifically about this series since MacySan asked why people hate drama. About what you said, you see, it's just I read a lot of mangas so I have very good idea how that kind of set up usually goes. My issue isn't that this particular plot can't be handled well, as I already said. My issue is that it pretty much pops up in every single romance story ever. It's so overdone at this point, it's just annoying. And as you said yourself, the outcome is obvious, so all it accomplishes is a trainwreck of emotions and drama, that either ultimately reverts to status quo making entire thing feel pointless or actually breaks up main couple. If it does affect main couple in some meaningful way, without splitting them, it rarely is a positive one. When I'm invested in story, I put my feels on the line and I read enough of those to know that my feels are not worth going through this kind of drama. It's simply very taxing and in this kind of mostly fluff story all it accomplishes is ruining the fluffy feeling you have, because at the back of your head you constantly need to remember about it and if it takes more central stage, then well there's no more fluff and only drama. Again, love rival or someone manipulating to break up/mess up with main couple is so overdone in all romance stories it's the easiest and cheapest way to create drama. For me, and going by this thread a lot other people too, seeing someone trying to go in between or ruin main couple is the last thing I want to read in romance story, yet those tropes are the most prevalent in entire genre, because they're the easiest to generate emotions in reader. In short, seeing love rival doesn't give me "How will this play out!?" reaction, but more of "Sigh, here we go again..." one.

MagiMaki posted:

School yuri romance has few drama options anyway.

-Death of an important person
- Parents / friends that are against yuri for some reason
- Love Rival
- "I have stuff to do, let's see each other in 5 years "

You have really poor imagination if that is all you can think of. Sadly most authors are just like you.

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MacySan posted:

Why are people so upset about some potential drama? You can't always have just fluff.

Form me personally it's more that adding sudden love rival/someone messing with established relationship is cliche af and incredibly lazy. I saw it way too many times and it's way overused as if there wasn't possibly be any other issue author could explore instead. There's slim chance it'll be executed well or with a twist, but honestly it's not really worth the pain of reading through it, especially if it takes some time to resolve. If she manages to break them up, well, she just managed to ruin the pair people are rooting for. If she don't, then until this plot thread concludes, that's all I'll be able to focus on, taking away any enjoyment I could have from anything else currently going on, fluff or not. It's simply cheap and forced drama for the sake of drama. There are countless better things to write about. There's so little actual stories focusing on couple life, so why when they are finally a couple, most of drama is usually focused around trying to break them or keeping them apart? Can't we have some drama made around them being a couple?

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