Her photo of her mom that she keeps on her phone is from behind while she's working.

That's seriously rough. Like, either that's all she could get, or that's what she thought best represented who her mother is to her.

I can't think of anything Uta has really gained from watching Miyabi pine for the affections of someone that isn't into her but is dating her because eh why not I guess whatever just don't expect much

I kinda loved Kuro at first--the familiar side character who the main character can talk to about her problems, but who in this case was kinda snarky and uninvolved, with zero chance that she secretly liked Uta--just a mildly interesting variation on a stock character role.

Then it turned into Chatting at the Dysfunctional Tea Room . . .

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(points enthusiastically) All of that, yes.

She was great on her own, Miyabi having a crush on her would be cuter if it just wasn't reciprocated (and might provide a situation where Uta has someone to relate to instead of just someone to confide in.)

I think he’s tossed the paddle in the air in surprise.

Action lines following his arms would have made the action more clear

Other way around. He was holding it up, but he slammed his hand down in surprise so fast the padddle hasn't had time to fall. The composition does make it look like it's growing out of his arm, though.

The lack of connection really hurts the secondary story, honestly. It would be one thing if Uta was -learning- something by interacting with these side characters. That would inform and influence the main plot and how she deals with her problems. Instead, they're just there.

Like, I keep thinking about how in Bloom Into You, you've got all these little side plots and secondary characters, and they're fun and we like them, but more important than that their experiences inform the perspectives of the protagonists. The protagonist in that manga -learns things- from hanging out with her ace friend, she recognizes her own anxieties in her bestie's heartbreak and draws confidence from her peer's encouragement. Her sister gives her perspective and encouragement as well.

I can't think of anything Uta has really gained from watching Miyabi pine for the affections of someone that isn't into her but is dating her because eh why not I guess whatever just don't expect much

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Maybe author just want to buy some time to create good and interesting payoff & solution for all of these problems which story have now, and that's why right now we (author) focus more on side characters stories.

If the side characters are interesting and engaging, you can get away with that, but if they aren't, it hurts the flow a lot. Chloe's emotionally stunted and Miyabi's a doormat. Independently either of them could be interesting, but their relationship is lopsided and unsatisfying, and doesn't really go anywhere or have any connection to the main plot. It's a kinda pointless, meandering b-story, and it's just dragging down the flow.

Without the side characters, I feel like the main plot would have a decent pace. With the side characters, it drags. If the side characters were more tied in with the main plot, it would feel like less of a diversion, but as it is, it just feels like every now and then the author stops making one manga and makes a different (less interesting) manga set in the same universe for a couple of months.

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on 19 shimizu says "her" but as far as i remember she didn't specify the sex?
So i guess that's either a typo or the translator implied that the guy didn't hear it? I thought he did.

Japanese has gender-neutral pronouns, English doesn't.

English has they/ them pronouns, which they actually use throughout the conversation, which is why the random "her" is so confusing.

The translator might have thought it just sounded more natural. There's a good chance Kidoguchi knows her sexuality anyway, though. They dated before, and broke up because she isn't into guys. He might even know about the Yuri manga thing, so while she hasn't explicitly come out to him, he may know enough to infer that if she's into someone, it's probably a girl.

Given all that, the translator may have just figured he probably knows, and is cool with it, or just plain wouldn't mind, so if "her" sounds more natural than "they"...

Either way it's probably not worth fretting over too much.

Now that I got the information for the CF project out of the way, this could be good news for those who are hoping for S2 because the project reached the 2M goal within 2 minutes after the donation was made available. Currently, it is sitting at 4M yen (~$37.8k) from a total of 468 patrons so far. While Trifle Entertainment isn't responsible for the anime production, the feat is still a clear proof that YagaKimi fans are passionate and willing to fund what they love (& yes, Japanese fans are all expecting S2). On top of that, YagaKimi is getting quite a bit of merchs and from what I've seen so far, they all have done very well. I'd say expect S2 announcement eventually and even if you don't care for the anime, I think this is just good news for the YagaKimi franchise as a whole.

I expect an S2 announcement will either come at the end of the last chapter, or with the release of the final tankoubon. If we haven't heard anything by then, I'm not going to hold my breath, but I'm pretty hopeful at the moment.

After all it's Yuri manga, i'm almost sure becouse of some unexpected miracle Uta and Kaoru will find TRUE LOVE and idk they'll bang each other and they'll have kids or something like that. I assume.

IDK, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Kaoru only married Reiichi because she was actually subconsciously in love with Uta, but social pressures and heavily ignored feelings made her settle for the next best thing that also permitted her to keep close to Uta.

(I'm being facetious of course.)

Actually, that seemed to be the exact setup for the first chunk of the story.

And frankly, it’s the only escape hatch to a U/K endgame.

I dunno, at this point I think her feelings for Reiichi were real, and I get the sense that she never thought about Uta that way until after Uta's confession. I think she loves Uta and wanted to be her family, but it never even occured to her that romance was an option. And now...she might be considering it? We haven't really gotten to see any of her POV since the confession. The knowledge that her husband is probably cheating, the fact that she's always been the pursuer andd never the pursued before this...There are a lot of things that might be causing her to reevaluate her feelings for Uta, so I don't think "Reiichi was always a substitute" is the only way to an Uta/Kaoru finale.

The big question mark here is Reiichi. Like how much does he know? We know he married Kaoru out of guilt and obligation, and he occasionally seems a little bit aware of what's going on. But did he keep his distance from Kaoru because he suspected his little sister had a crush on her? Is he going behind her back with Risako just because he's selfish and in love with her, or is he just unable to commit to Kaoru because he feels guilty? (Or am I just reading way too much into his little behaviors?)

I mean, I think the author could do a lot of interesting things with a setup like this, but it would require that they quit faffing about with secondary characters. Chloe/Kuroe and her girlfriend are kind of interestingly messed up, but we've just spent way too much time on them, and their relationship just doesn't have much chemistry.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kase_san_rival_and_kase_san

Kinda surprised nobody has posted the link to the first appearance.

Some people definitely seem to be misinterpreting the title. She's not a rival for Yamada, and I doubt she ever will be. She's just a comic relief side character who views Kase-san as her rival. (but obviously really just has a crush)

There no real need to post the link since some already said who she was just the page before.

Well, I didn't remember her at all, and that mistranslation didn't help lol

It's not mis-translated-, people are just misunderstanding what is meant by "rival". Anyway, I thought a convenient link to her previous appearance would help.

Yes! Endgame is near for the second sister

Now reality can be whatever I want.

They are inevitable.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/kase_san_rival_and_kase_san

Kinda surprised nobody has posted the link to the first appearance.

Some people definitely seem to be misinterpreting the title. She's not a rival for Yamada, and I doubt she ever will be. She's just a comic relief side character who views Kase-san as her rival. (but obviously really just has a crush)

So, just caught up on the forum discussion after being in a different state for awhile.

Yuu has definitely been having impure thoughts. Touko is an absolute evil mastermind. (That move with her parents was diabolical.) They are ABSOLUTELY gonna bang. I have zero doubts and I see no other way to interepret the full context of the scenes we've been given.

But the thing that amuses me the most about all this, that nobody has really commented on, it is entirely likely that Yuu is going to be the first person in her friend group to get laid. I don't think we're going to get to see their reaction to that, but I really wish we could, because the notion of the scene is hilarious to me. Like, Akari is nervous about a big date with Doujima, they're all gossiping about how it's gonna go, Yuu carelessly says something that gives away her experience level, everyone turns and just stares....

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Seems it might just end with a bang

I think that's been pretty apparent since the last chapter, really.

I just wonder why Kasumi believes a shirt and pants are somehow less hot than a swimsuit. It should be the reverse.

Oooh! (puts on physics professor glasses)

Blah blah bah, another lecture about stuff everyone knows.
I know that wearing more clothes in hot regions can be cooler/prevent being burned alive (why else would people in the Middle East be wearing full body outfits and turbans). But in this context there is barely a case to be made. Those pants aren't going to do anything a bikini bottom won't do too. Or look at Sakurako's frilly bikini. It covers more and has the advantage of being air funnelling.
Kasumi's shirt being bright and thus not absorbing heat is fine, but a white bikini is nothing unusual. The only advantage of this shirt is that it gets so soaked with sweat that a breeze will cool her down easily (which will have her catch a cold real fast). Brilliant.

Man. Just....Just screw you. Fuck me for trying to explain something you explicitly asked about. Also, LookingEast is right, you're factually wrong.

A white t-shirt and light colored shorts can definitely be cooler at the beach than a bikini. People dress that way and experience this all the time. The sun on directly on your skin can heat you up more than the sun bouncing off a white shirt.

And nobody's going to catch a cold on a beach on a hot, sunny summer day, for chrissakes.

So Saeko is wearing the triangle shorts the girl in the first chapter was wearing, so given the dialogue in that first chapter, I think that scene is the aftermath of what's happening here, and that the next chapter will bookend with that scene, bringing the first volume to a close.

Which means that the opening scene of the manga isn't at some nebulous time in the future, it's just after Miwa's first time with Saeko, which means it doesn't actually tell us anything about how their story ends. ;p

So yaaaaaay, we get to argue more about whether they stay together in the long run! ;p

I just wonder why Kasumi believes a shirt and pants are somehow less hot than a swimsuit. It should be the reverse.

Oooh! (puts on physics professor glasses)

Actually, there are three mechanisms at play controlling how hot you feel when out on the beach: evaporation, radiation absorption, and conductive heat transfer.

Evaporation is a cooling process, which is why your body uses it to sweat out excessive heat. For evaporation through sweating, less clothes is better, but if you're going to be getting wet at the beach, the clothes hold water, which then evaporates slowly, which can produce a cooling effect. (this is why wet clothes will leave you feeling chilled)

For radiation absorption, the lighter the color of the surface the sunlight hits, the more is reflected, and therefore the less heat is transferred into the body. Also, the clothing provides a barrier against direct absorption, so there's an extra boundary between you and the clothes, which in extreme cases can actually be very effective at keeping you cooler. Bedouins wear heavy robes in the desert for this reason. The robes actually insulate you from the heat outside. Of course, for thin garments like Kasumi is wearing, this effect is negligible, but the white top probably does a pretty good job of reducing heat absorption by reflecting the sunlight away. (It also traps some of her body heat, but if the fabric is thin enough, it helps more than it hurts)

Conductive heat transfer is through her contact with the surrounding air. At a beach, there's probably a generous breeze of cool air coming in off the ocean during the day, which will help in either case, though moreso if your clothes are made of a light fabric that breathes.

In conclusion, When the sun is high and bright, and you're gonna be splashing around at the beach, a nice brightly colored t-shirt made of a light fabric can actually be cooler than even the skimpiest bikini.

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Was it really a surprise someone from Seju's brothers killed her mom? It was pretty obvious, since they hated Seju and her mom so much. Also being greedy af and not wanting to share their fortune. It couldn't have been Seju's dad or her brother.
The only mystery is still whether that particular brother had an affair with Seju's mom, since there was a scene of him remembering her in season 1. Some people would also theorize that he is actually her dad, but I think that's less possible.

I don't think Dowon will die either.

Season 3 with Dowon's past and her evil ex, while Dowon gets healed by dating Seju. Season 4 that ex moving on with someone new

Not really a huge surprise but still, its not something that anyone in their sane mind would want it to happen. Like god dammit, havent this poor girl suffered more than enough already? How much longer does the author intends to shit all over her?

What are you -talking- about? This development couldn't have worked out better for her! There is incontrovertable eyewitness testimony and physical evidence that her brother tried to murder her and frame it as a suicide, and he basically admitted that he was the one responsible for her mom's death. She gets to put her mother's murderer in prison, get revenge against the worst of her terrible family, and she'll probably find a way to crush the rest of those awful siblings along the way. Not to mention her new girlfriend came to the rescue in the process. If that isn't going to help her get over Sumin, I don't know what is.

Remember, part of the reason she went to the hotel in the first place was to try and find some kin of connection/resolution towards her dead mom. I'd say this qualifies.

I wouldn't belittle the trauma this would put a real person through, but for a fictional character? This might as well be a giftwrapped box labelled "cathartic resolution".

Both her parents are gone, her first love left her for good after tormenting her for 10 years, twice someone made an attempt on her life. Now she finds out the truth her mother was actually murdered and Won got injured in order to save her. What's next? She gets kidnapped, tortured and raped? O_o

Next her mother's killer goes to jail (or maybe she'll blackmail him with this to just ruin his life, I wouldn't put that past her) Then she nurses her girlfriend back to health and they happily-ever-after while bro hangs himself because losers like him can never take any of the shit they dish out.

Edit: (I bet it ends with a boat scene like the dream with Sumin, but with Do Won instead, signifying that Seju has finally really moved on.)

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I desperately want to adopt this child.

it's just raining on my face, that's all

I'm not crying your crying

It's because she's always sending out mixed signals. In this case, Saeko got her in a position where they could have sex but Miwa was so stiff it made Saeko think she was forcing herself to do it, even if Miwa said she was ready. What she says aloud and what her body language convey are two different things.

That wasn't really mixed signals so much as she WAS forcing herself to do it.

I'm confused? Why exactly is Miwa considered a pain? Can someone please explain what makes her a pain? I feel like I'm missing stuff D:

I read it like this: She's a high maintenance person. She has a particular way that she's imagined certain things unfolding in her relationships, and when they don't go that way, she's just visibly disappointed. She's considerate enough to not boss people around to suit her whims, but she still overthinks everything and isn't good at hiding when she's unhappy.

Which means, basically, that her friends and girlfriend, who are relatively much more laid back and a little insensitive, wander into her little disappointments like a minefield and accidentally bum her out. And they know they didn't do anything wrong, but neither did she really. They love that she cares so much because it generally means she's a sweetheart, but sometimes it's just a little exhausting to deal with.

Ummm why was the picture smashed at the end did she do it or her GF hmm

I got the feeling the picture was damaged earlier after it fell over and Rii set it back up when visiting. If it was just smashed, why would it still be standing?

Also the author never bothered showing us that picture. If the author wanted to imply one of them smashed the picture, he would have had the smashed picture be the same one we saw intact earlier on.

The smashed picture is probably intended as symbolism. That relationship is something that's been destroyed, and while she misses her sister, like so many other things in this world, that's something that can't be mended. It also obscures the sister's face, leaving her more as a concept than a character to the reader. Just one more ghost in a world of ghosts.

If all the people of the world vanished except the one person you love, wouldn't that be just fine?

No? Like really REALLY no? I mean, leaving aside that the entire point of this book is that she misses her sister and so her girlfriend isn't the one person she loves, but rather just one of the people she loves, we live in comfort and confidence because society has a number of safeguards that help protect us from the odd accident. Or a bad flu. Or an animal attack.

Honestly, reading these stories is kind of nervewracking, because that gun COULD have exploded. It hasn't been serviced or cleaned for years. Machines don't just stay in pristine condition indefinitely, and their world is a litany of unsuspecting dangers. They also don't know how to handle a gun, and there is no medical aid if somebody accidentally gets shot. And if the -one- -person- you have dies, there's no moving past that and finding someone else, like you can in the real world. There's no coping and waiting for things to get better and turning to other friends or family.

If anyone ever wonders what a useless lesbian is, it's these two.

Well I look at myself in the mirror everyday so I'm reminded on the reg what we are, but it's always nice to have it reinforced that misery loves company. lol

That avatar is fantastic.