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Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Both the repetition of the rules and the lack of intimacy make for a strange ending though. What is the conclusion ? That being married is the same as living together with a friend except you also promise to stay together ? The question isn't so much about us knowing they are in love (we know that) and more about why their love takes that particular shape.

Also, there is a pretty thin line, maybe even just a matter of point of view, between intimacy being unnecessary to show your characters are in love, and having to show your characters are in love within the constraint of not showing intimacy. Which I guess is why this kind of resolution reminds people of works from 30 years ago.

In the end, we know they are married, in love with each other, and they don't mind kissing - their relationship is not just for show and there is nothing inconclusive. I don't think there is an argument that the story didn't go all to way to its conclusion, or that their relationship isn't as genuine as any other you could think of. At the same time the last chapter, in which they make their wedding "official" in front of others, emphasizes physical distance (repeat of separate bedrooms and wedding without a kiss), which is a deliberate choice which, at least to me, feels a bit off-putting.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Although not kissing at your own wedding seems kinda strange, and would probably leave the attendees (and the readers) quite puzzled, it's not like they haven't kissed, they did in chapter 30.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

I'm a bit torn on that girl. On one hand her first interaction was completely unlikable and she deserved getting blown away like that. Even when she came back she was acting kinda aggressive. And I couldn't care less that her boyfriend was an asshole.

On the other hand, she seems legitimately hurt, and while she's still kinda rude, it's like another level (lower) compared to before ? And she's actually helping now...

I still don't exactly like her, but I kinda want her to get a redemption arc. And I don't really know why.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

I hope that when all this is over, we don't find out that this was the catalyst for Yuzu's self-realization, I'd rather it have been earlier.

Feels like it's... kinda between the two. We don't know what Yuzu was thinking precisely, but she seemed to be convinced that she could just keep the status quo forever. It's hard to know if it's because she was content with it and didn't think any further, or because she was worried about taking risks in changing.

I mean, I don't buy that she viewed Minami as just a friend. Especially as we've seen her act as a normal friend with the others. So she must have had some kind of "realization" long before, without pursuing that line of thought all the way. After all, she reacted immediately when the kouhai asked if she'd be fine with Minami dating someone else, without any hesitation or denial.

Realizing that Minami might be courted by someone else probably forced her to put certain words on her feelings that she might have avoided before. To me, it feels less like a realization of her feelings and more a realization about what they mean in terms of the future of their relationship.

Either way, that was a surprisingly straightforward resolution of the kouhai plot. At least one of them three is capable of expressing her thoughts and feelings.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

It’s a particularly puerile piece of contemporary jargon that people who criticize something one approves of as being “haters"

Have you read (or written) the comments from before ? People who hate a character or the story she's in are haters... At least according to a simplistic view of vocabulary, I guess. And that's very obviously something that happened.


That's some serious blush. Cute. I think Shiho won't have any problem understanding "why she did such a thing".

Interesting that things seem to be pointing towards an arc considering Hima's role as Laureley's manager. It seems to be by far the best solution, but Yori's conflicted feelings will certainly make that difficult. I just hope this won't reflect negatively on her, drama narrative stemming from jealousy can be quite tricky to handle in a satisfying way.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Is the story trying to make me dislike Seo and feel bad for asshole king and queen ? lol nope

You go girl, this guy had it coming.

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Bielna
Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Ah yes, I am sure the nurse is used to the supernatural from hearing the moans from the ghosts haunting the infirmary

Bonus points if it's literal lesbian ghosts to be introduced later.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

How would you know how a parent feels ?

That's rich. After all, it doesn't seem like scumbag mom has any children left, either.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

DID THEY FUCK?

No, the clothes fell on the ground on their own while they were talking about art. /s

Bielna
Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Well... That's done at least.

Not very happy that Kase won, though. She's just getting rewarded and doesn't have to face any consequences whatsoever for jeopardizing their moving in, delaying and losing the previous offer, etc. I was hoping that she'd be actually forced to choose and take a stand, instead of everything just going her way for reasons of plot.

It was overall a very weird arc, and I can't help but feel that despite living together, their relationship took a step back.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Didn't feel good, so she decided to share her story on the Internet. Ouch... There was no way that was gonna end well.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

How did miss vampire get her supply before anyway?

I guess she didn't, which made her very thirsty.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

"I have no interest in men." Everyone interprets that as her being a lesbian.

Happy little misunderstandings. Shows that misunderstandings don't always have to be a bad thing !

Bielna
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Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Eri-chan, the hero the world deserves.

Bielna
Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Hehehe Bandai execs having a panic attack when reading page 28. >:-)

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Also, I didn't know that demons are that heteronormative and don't know the existence of gay people. Do they also have the same political and sex education as us ?

Who knows, maybe they got it worse than us because their whole species was created out of the "female demons tempting men" concept ?

But it's true that, for the number of yuri succubus stories, we have a distinct lack of "knows she's lesbian and is comfortable with it" examples.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Kinda feel bad for Lilian. This world seems very heteronormative and, while Evris got her ticket out, Lilian might just... be left on the roadside and stuck with the douche prince, because of how her (very bad) plan turned out. I hope she gets something better later.

And it's hard to really hate her when she saved Evris, although it wasn't in the way she expected.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

I wont be surprised the scum became buddies or even marry that dude. As long as Mashiro staying as a mistress for Makino, along with non stop supply of money or credit card, things will work. Money buy you everything. Those three may even becomes a threesome. You cannot ignore that credit card.

You should consider never talking again.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Yeah... nothing to do, whenever the "MC must consider marrying a guy" trope comes up in a yuri, I find it infuriating. There's no way I'd even remotely enjoy the jokes right now, even though humor really is the only way to enjoy this manga. Please let this arc end quickly...

Can't say I enjoy, no matter the context, any flavor of "gay girl is playing along with het wedding for reasons".

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Bielna
Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Kuroneko as the unexpected ally.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Title : "I Won't Let Mistress Suck My Blood"

Chapter 4 : Breaks through the window to have mistress suck her blood.

Well, she's certainly not obstinate.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

I wouldn't say it's certain to end once they each get their feelings across. Mutually Unrequited Twin Sisters still had a dozen chapters after the two mains became a couple.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

(Some) readers' expectations : "Well, I have been entirely focused on Yuzu and no one else since the first chapter, where I actually realized that my feelings were romantic... but now that you put me on the spot, I guess I must state that I'd be okay with any girl." This interpretation of some readers, that Minami having someone specific that she likes instead of being interested in girls in general (a staple in many romance stories, yuri or otherwise) is offensive, is godsdamn idiotic.

With some of those comments, I can just picture people on this forum going to someone irl who already is in love with someone, and asking them "would you date another girl, or are you homophobic ?". Because, you know, if she likes a girl she's a potential date interest. (It's obviously /s, but a lot of people who comment on yuri manga seem to actually think that, so I guess it's important to mention that I don't actually believe it ?)

And if you truly believe that... should I even point out that "there's a chance you'll look at me like that too" is literally what the other character answered in response ? Frankly, what the fuck did you want Minami to answer to Nanase's comment that would have made you happy ?

I'll go off and cool down a little, because the way these forums are completely ignoring the dynamic between the characters, the circumstances, and the message that the new girl is sending, is making me mad.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

Leaving poor Caroline with Lloyd ? Dear gods, even for a villainess, that's particularly evil.

Actually, I don't get how the original story could have gone. Caroline is supposed to be the heroine, so why would she get close to someone who's so obviously a self-centered asshole ? I get that we're not supposed to like him in this story, but either something is internally inconsistent... or that original book they found themselves transported in mustn't have been very good.

Bielna
Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022
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@PineconeJuice That's one way to interpret this, I guess

last edited at Aug 15, 2023 6:15PM