Miyako was awesome here. Asako opened an inch and she saw it for the mile it was. Seeing all that pain (goss sesh definitely helped but still), seeing the opportunity, seeing that she also was not going to ever be happy with Asako as she is, and making the call to lay it all out in a way that could push her from the rut she is in.

the wait for next one will kill me

soooo.... they're totally both boning editor, mutually, yeah? "Hi my notwife galpal and i would like to invite you to our strip card game night."

im not taking it literally as "black" but there is the colorism there. that theres gap "lust" between pale white and dark tan, christ.

its more the "grrr that white pale skin thats gotta be under the black skin make me horny ggrr" that's wack and gross and makes me ill.

no way they platonic in this timeskip if they matchy-matched in overalls, thats commitment

builiding half assembled furniture together in the new condo you and your bestie bought while wearing matching clothes like all besties would.

gay gay homosexual gay

dammit 15 year old me knew this. why did she wait so long to figure it out?

i too wish my father would send me into the gay circus to find my lesbian lover

i dont think its oh confessing to you before you leave, her intention seemed to be, I am going to go with her.

i dont think its oh confessing to you before you leave, her intention seemed to be, I am going to go with her.

that honestly really really works as an ending. would totally be fine on that note.

i mean the list is like guitar hero core. props on uncle already starting the wedding planning!

Everything is always better with more queer rep thrown in the mix tbh

(not even remotely true, what with bad representation, but it's the thought that matters)

That woulda been a great story though, transmasc who's not out at school. But this still works, and is very cute and good.

Eh. Stories about trans characters are definitely nice, and there need to be more of them, but it's also good to have stories about androgenous characters or just characters who prefer to dress more like the opposite sex for comfort and aesthetic reasons, without actually being trans.

What gets me about this is literal decades of this "not actually trans" androgynous or othered gender presentation has been present in manga. And it has been present while cozying up to / or sometimes blatantly for the purpose of, transphobia, to the point where you can't give them the benefit of the doubt that they are like, positively portraying diverse gender expression lol. I would actually need to see like markedly more trans narratives to begin with, just in like a niche little space for one, and then when like the few canonically trans characters in major shounen / mainstream anime do show up , their fanbases treat them as such, secondly. Otherwise, its still the status quo of trans people not actually existing (I'm still a man ad nauseam), where "comfort and aesthetic reasons" sounds like a permutation of "why cant you just be a feminine man" when it more clearly suggests an intersection of expression AND identity (given "comfort" in particular).

That's to say nothing to worry about here, but yeah, hard butch yuri is hard to come by regardless so happy to maybe see some of that at play here. apologies for autism paragraphing.

There are definitely ... problems with how trans characters are represented, both in the yuri niche and broader media, and there definitely needs to be more representation, but I don't think it's fair to then say the depiction of butch or androgynous women is taking away from trans representation. This is doubly true in Japan, where the Takarazuka Revue has been a thing since 1914 ... is what I want to say, but a quick look at their history and ... yeah.

oh no i never meant to imply its taken away just that here we have that kind of representation instead which is nice in itself.

Everything is always better with more queer rep thrown in the mix tbh

(not even remotely true, what with bad representation, but it's the thought that matters)

That woulda been a great story though, transmasc who's not out at school. But this still works, and is very cute and good.

Eh. Stories about trans characters are definitely nice, and there need to be more of them, but it's also good to have stories about androgenous characters or just characters who prefer to dress more like the opposite sex for comfort and aesthetic reasons, without actually being trans.

What gets me about this is literal decades of this "not actually trans" androgynous or othered gender presentation has been present in manga. And it has been present while cozying up to / or sometimes blatantly for the purpose of, transphobia, to the point where you can't give them the benefit of the doubt that they are like, positively portraying diverse gender expression lol. I would actually need to see like markedly more trans narratives to begin with, just in like a niche little space for one, and then when like the few canonically trans characters in major shounen / mainstream anime do show up , their fanbases treat them as such, secondly. Otherwise, its still the status quo of trans people not actually existing (I'm still a man ad nauseam), where "comfort and aesthetic reasons" sounds like a permutation of "why cant you just be a feminine man" when it more clearly suggests an intersection of expression AND identity (given "comfort" in particular).

That's to say nothing to worry about here, but yeah, hard butch yuri is hard to come by regardless so happy to maybe see some of that at play here. apologies for autism paragraphing.

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would have been infinitely better had the person been either trans man or trans woman tbh

Your nick is right, you're very silly.

Don't diss lesbians.

what, why shouldnt het trans dudes get love :(

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would have been infinitely better had the person been either trans man or trans woman tbh

i know this is cope but really miyako is like, barely a landlord at all. Although it does seem weird that there's been a few landlord romances now. taking "screw landlords" literally. Don't get the impulse there. Wish the age gap was like pushed back so like, Miyako was 23-24ish? But then you couldn't do as much of those "I'm teaching you to adult." things I guess. Although, being in the idol grinder for longer would definitely entrenched her baggage in a more exciting (characterization-wise) way. Given her being 19, she what, spent 3-4 years in the biz? Which is really not a lot!

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i dont know about "no actual yuri, just her projections", Unless the whole "youre their cupid" deal is auditory fangirl hallucination but that seems to kinda indicate things might roll for her fantasies... idk

wanko shut the fuck up about getting attacked or whatever smdh

supportive japanese parents... really puts my american folks to shame lol,

Trying not to sound condescending here, probably failing.

I just find it interesting that some people are completely disregarding the idea of character development, despite it being one of the most fundamental parts of story-telling.

It's just my impression, but people seem to be assuming that Claire and Rei are going to be the same at the end of the story as they were at the beginning. That because Claire is classist at the start of the story, and is not going to grow or change at all.

I can clearly see her starting to fumble around a change for the better... but its more so like she's from what we understand pretty anti-commoner within the bounds of the original game, and rei's presence has been softening that. Claire is the villainess! of a story that sets her against the low class hero. So whatever version most likely retained that opposition to the very end unless like a tropey, badly written "oh ill help you in the end" turn which i dont have any indication to believe is the case? As like its more riffing tropey isekai rather than riffing otome tropes. It's that version that rei initially fell in love with which i take umbrage with, and her affection has preceded any significant character growth. And not like in a "liking bad characters means your bad" type of way, but rather like if you like the classist/racist/etc villain romantically that is a step further, and when you don't have an immediate objection to that once they've become isekai'd into a real person... yeah? Like a real person is absolutely is capable of changing those views and deserves a second chance after the verbal abuse / bullying (which rei seems to indicate was a recurring part of the original game's iteration of her).

IDK. There could have been more care and concern done with this to where like, there's a disconnect between the game versions of these characters, who are dramatized and exaggerated, compared to now they are real sentient people and aren't so melodramatic. their attributes dullen, the princes aren't as perfect, selfless and hot for MC, the villainess isn't so villain-like or as trope-ishly himedere, just haughty and a product of her upbringing. They've KINDA toed this. but it would have been a way better story had this been seriously engaged. Had Rei been like oh shit, that classist shit is actually fucked up, and she has to rebuild and rekindle this idealized fictional character into a real person she can love.

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Yeah Claire sucks and is classist trash but so is rei for simping for her. Wasn't she suppose do be like vaguely a comrade in that she was poor irl too and hated work?

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a better premise given the title would be in the closet / egg trans girl being all like, "wait a minute, this feels like my yuri animes" so it doubles down on the "whoa this isnt supposed to happen" going on.

This is my 5th re read and I can solidly say asano minato is trans. (Hc but ok actually super relatable to me)

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