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Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I feel like you're overly focusing on the first sentence and ignoring the second. I said we don't -know- if it's a fantasy world, but even if it isn't, the first thing she did was SUCK HER BLOOD.

I think there is plenty of empirical evidence within the context of the story for our protagonist to reasonably conclude that vampires are real, so really the only thing she's being asked to accept is that some of them need specific kinds of blood to survive, which...I mean, if I met an actual vampire, I'd be pretty interested in hearing their descriptions about how they work.

It's not really about if the character believes her or not, but if she would freak about the information she just got, since it's not just any other information, it's a "Wait Could She Kill Me Right Now?"(of course she wouldn't because of that "specific blood" thing, but the second she woke up she didn't know that)
When i posted that comment, only the chapter 1 was available so it didn't make sense to me and it made me uncomfortable as i read.
But i agree with you, if i met a vampire, i'd be really interesested to see how they actually work(and what they think about how humans sees vampires, tha'd be fun XD), but believe me, i'd be scared to death before that lol

last edited at Jun 15, 2020 6:43AM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

It depends, but actually you want usually explaining your rules when something is happening, not in advance and ideally you shouldn't need to explain anything and people should be able to figure out rules on their own just from visuals and short comments. Nobody really wants to read a story that opens with lengthy explanations of the rules, unless it's done really well and/or interesting and not in wall of text info dump. You can set some rules before, but again, the most important thing is feeding those information to your audience naturally and in small doses.

"ideally you shouldn't need to explain anything and people should be able to figure out rules on their own"
On their own? yea of course, go, tell a story, say very little and expect ppl to figure it out on their own! yes!
I don't "want" 5 paragraphs of a whole monologue as you imply in "Nobody really wants to read a story that opens with lengthy explanations of the rules", something really short and explanatory would do the trick, you don't need to explain the whole thing for 10 minutes and as i said, again, you need a base first so everything that comes after becomes something cohesive, so what you said "You can set some rules before, but again, the most important thing is feeding those information to your audience naturally and in small doses." is just exactly what i said with other words so thank you, whoever i don't think that feeding information little by little is the MOST IMPORTANT, is just as important as the base rules, one wouldn't work without the other.

And about the cantaur no nayami thing, i was talking about the anime so srry about not explaining that. On the anime, as i remember, there's a short story at the beggining explaining everything really fast, but in a way everyone can understand.

You said "We got explanation in first chapter", but i was talking more about the characters, "Why the girl just believed so fast?" that's it, since i actually don't remember seeing anywhere that the girl was also a monster and that's why she didn't get scared(and also, when i posted that comment i've only read the first chapter and in the first chapter, the girl being a monster is unsaid).

"Did you ever heard of love at first sight, especially when girl is very cute..." saudhsaoidsahiudsah yea sure "love at first sight", i don't believe that. I believe that love is a strong, unbreakable feeling and you can't just "I looked at her and i knew... i love her" no, this is passion, there's difference. Love is something that comes with time, absolute, it doesn't burns like passion, it's a gentle and scary feeling. A passion's burning makes you blind. So i'd say that part is an opinion thing.

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Wait wait wait i didn't read everything, ppl are getting mad because i got confused? lmaooo y'all are WILD
I knew that "pretty weird place to look for realism" would come up because ppl says that as a pattern.
Honey, every world you see, created or not, has realism. THEIR OWN realism.
Harry Potter has realism, has "world rules", has logic.
You can't just go there, start making dark arts magic on top of the empire state being a 16 year old who knows nothing about magic. For your world to work you need rules, you NEED realism, you need everything to be cohesive. So when you say "pretty weird place to look for realism" it doesn't makes sense because... every good story has realism on their own way.
(Of course, there are stories that doesn't make a lot of sense at the beggining, but that's the magic of it, like Narnia or even Pan's Labyrinth)

I'm just shocked ppl got so nasty over something so... simplistic haha
Ppl really think that logic is what happens in our world, i mean, created worlds DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO HAVE LOGIC, YOU CAN'T! lmao oh gosh... i find it funny sorry XD

last edited at Jun 14, 2020 12:28PM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I mean, you're assuming that this isn't a fantasy world where cute lesbian monster-girls are real and everybody knows about them, even though that's been the case for every other series Neji has written.

Also, the very first thing she did was sink her fangs into the other girl's neck and drink blood until she passed out, so yeah, I think I'd probably also go with "rare vampire" over "emo kid" as a conclusion.

Yes, exactly.
On a story, explaining how your world works BEFORE telling your story is extremely important because ppl wouldn't be confused like i did, at least in my opinion of course.
I mean, there's a difference between explaining how your world works and exposing how they work little little(so ppl could create theories). Some rules needs to be said first, so what comes next could be cohevise, working as a base.
(It's kinda what Centaur no Nayami did at the beggining, they explained the whole prehistory, then the whole history, how all their races are together and how it impacts their social experience as a diverse community... in 7 minutes)

last edited at Jun 14, 2020 12:17PM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I'm not going to read all that but just know taht you are a huge nerd

I know green tomato... i know :\

last edited at Jun 14, 2020 12:07PM

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I don't know those characters but i know that "Just a joke" can hurt ppl(in extreme psicologic ways), so everything you say matters because words are powerful. I'm glad that this dounjin showed us this message tbh

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Honestly, if i had a girlfriend and someone liked her, i'd do what Chidori did.
Not really thinking about if I trust her, if I trust the other person or anything else, but because it's the right thing to do. Screw what I feel, what if I was that other girl? she deservers an ending to her story.

Chidori did that because she knows how it feels when things are left unsaid, she was empathic and that's beautiful, at least in my opinion.

last edited at Jun 12, 2020 8:46AM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Ok, imagine you're that woman Kara, you're going to your work as any other day like the standard person you are, you see a girl on the street who looks hurt, you'll probably go see if she's ok right? but then the girl starts saying that she's a rArE mUtAtIoN oF vAmPiRe, and then you believe her...
...GIRL??? nO
Call an ambulance, she's probably crazy or just a really edgy teenager, no one would ever think she was telling the truth, but the character goes like "iS tHaT tRuE?" she says "yes" and then "Oh, ok fine"? I understand, she just woke up, probably a lil groggy, but believe, i wouldn't ask if that's true, i'd ask if she's ok.
The thing is: Is she actually telling the truth? Yes, she is. But before she proves it, she's just crazy for everyones' eyes.
It bothered me because it was just unrealistic. And if the character really is not the type that would freak out about that, it could at least show it for everyone to understand on page 1.

And then, and then the girl just- just fucking sMILES and she says "Oh I lOvE hEr" oh give me a break, if i wanted to see unrealistic things like that i'd watch Disney's golden era movies.

I understand that ppl likes stories like this, believe me, i'm one of those ppl, but... when it's at least a little realistic.
I'll come back in the future to check out and see if that character is actually just weird overall.
(I actually LOVE Neji's other stories, "Like a Snowfall in Spring" was just so beautiful and "Vacation Maou to Pet" was funny and had nice characters, but this one... idk)

last edited at Jun 11, 2020 5:10PM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

"AND THEN! SHE'S SAYS SHE STRAIGHT, BARBARA! CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SHIT????"

last edited at Jun 10, 2020 7:24AM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Ok. can i ask something?
Is Shimamura THAT dead person in the original as well?
I mean... she's so "Whatever!" and ":|" but not in a charming way...

last edited at May 30, 2020 12:58PM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

o.K, i'm starting to become obsessed, this manga is everything
Chapter 7 is one of my favorites so far!

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Ok sure, now let's get down to teories, shall we?
How the fuck the fish got up there

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

This manga is so unecessarly fast
Nao goes from "I like you" for "Can we take one step further?" BABE, YOU LITERALLY JUST TOOK A STEP FURTHER, YOU WANT MORE?
They're really cute together, but didn't need to flex unrealistcness, taking things slow is a bless for both

last edited at May 15, 2020 5:07PM

StarDress
Renjoh discussion 12 May 12:24
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Stopped being a douche midmanga lmao

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

THE PLOT TWIST OH MY GOD
FRUCKING SCREECH
Ok, i saw it coming, but i though "Nah, the mangaka wouldn't go ape shit like that"
BUT THEY DID!

last edited at May 7, 2020 5:54AM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I need to agree with Azusa. Arisa is really. Realy. Really annoying.
Mari really likes this girl, so yea, that's LOVE y'all...

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Well, damn.
I can see people getting annoyed with Adachi's thoughs and all, but it's so normal...
I have her age, and i can say that yes, it's extremely accurate. We really don't know what we're doing, every step is one or two questions without an answer. It's annoying, but it's not like we can change it, so try to actually look through things with her eyes at the end of the day, yes? empathy is a thing...
(Tbh, i'm not that indecisive and confused, but back there, when i realised that i liked girls, i was exactly like her so)

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

well um what?
Really REALLY cute, but kinda toxic though? lol

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Ok so basically, this manga is terrible and is really unhealthy, but i can't stop reading it, and when i read it, i get a bad taste in my mouth.
But for real though.
This mangaka knows how to do good people? all of them are bad. Selfish, pedophiles, traitors, no respect and sympathy towards others whatsoever. I like a manga that knows how to portrait reality, but good god man, if i wanted to see bad people doing stupid things i'd just get out of my house and be social(Not now though, be safe guys).

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

Setouchi is so baby,,,,,,,,,,
I feel you so badly"

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

The "transfered student" take, nice.
Aya will sort her feelings after she realizes that she's jealous of Honda and then, fight for her. The new character doesn't look like the manipulative type, so won't be so troublesume, i assume...
Still, even though it's predictable, the characters are so interesting that i don't really care about it(and i'm annoying when it comes to this subject of predictableness in stories lol)

... Now that i'm reflecting more about it, the characters aren't really that interesting, they belong to really popular molds(like Honda, the =| but cute inside), but Aya is... kinda different? Gentle, but selfish. Smart but extremely anxious on tests and such, it's a nice contrast, i'd say.

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

fetishizing pedophilia goes brrr
I feel sick just from reading it, but i really wanna know if that teacher and the student actually come to discover what common sense is like.

last edited at Apr 21, 2020 2:31PM

Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

That last chapter(13)...
They didn't need to flex cuteness so hard like that XD

Those characters sure are something else... everytime the mangaka tries to show their emotions, it gets through me.
I can relate so badly that my chest actually hurts, the difference is that there's a happy ending there(or so i wish, if it's a bad end, the "Cheers, i'll drink to that" meme never felt so relevant lmao)

last edited at Apr 20, 2020 3:34PM

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

That guy is going to Midori.
He will, i don't doubt.

StarDress
Marcy
joined Nov 11, 2015

I don't even know what do say, this is pure art. Beautiful.
i'd love a sequence, but i doubt they'd make :\