I honestly can't even tell if Mugino is just an incredibly dedicated troll at this point.

To be fair, Nanoha also face-tanked Fate's 'Spark End' ability way back in season 1, but yeah, Nanoha's always been said to have strong defensive abilities and huge magic reserves, as opposed to the way they've described Vivio.

Devil's advocate, I'm not too upset, but it's still not a very clever way of having Vivio win. If anything she should probably have used a new ability that she developed in secret for the sole purpose of beating Nanoha, something that would make some sense given how long this has been a goal for her and how well documented Nanoha's fighting style is.

Short answer: yes. Long answer: yes, but it's up to you if you want to watch Seasons 1 and 2 as movies or series. Movies look better and don't take as long, but the first one rushes the character development and ironically spends too much of it's runtime focusing on backstory that, while significant, doesn't actually change the events of the story. I think the movie version of season 2 is very solid, however.

But anyway, if you're a yuri fan, it's definitely one of the top ten yuri relationships in an action series, and these two have a very interesting dynamic between the brooding and stoic Fate and the optimistic and straightforward Nanoha. It helps they deal with legitimate issues with actual physical consequence, as opposed to the usual 'cute and also cute' couples you usually see were the differences are a bit more superficial, dealing with primarily social problems.

Like, Bloom into You is a magnificent show, Love Live has plenty of shipping potential, there's a lot to be said about the cuteness of Watashi ni Tenshi, but only in Nanoha will you watch a girl literally and figuratively broken by the events of the plot, only to rebuild herself solely for the sake of repaying the kindness shown by the main character. Top tier feels.

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If you ever end up going for it, make sure to tag me when you're done. I'd read the hell out of it.

@ThatAroAce Yeah, it' intimidating, but aside from 'play the games', the only real solution here is to try to find doujins that retell the plot of the games. Unfortunately, I can't think of any off the top of my head that deals with the entire story. If you want, I can spend some time putting together a list. If you're looking at the Touhouwiki, you should know that only the section 'Windows games' actually matter: the first five games are very rarely mentioned in the fandom.

Well, guess it's time to go re-read all my Reisen X Youmu doujins.

Man, why does yaoi always have to be some borderline-bdsm possession play nonsense? I'm all for guys loving guys, but every time they're portrayed in manga it's never in a healthy relationship, and it's always based entirely on physical attraction.

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Eh this manga has (a lot of) problems, but boy do people love to complain about it non-stop

Sorry, we're all just frustrated at how easily this whole thing could be fixed. It's like watching a horror movie where the main character escapes the killer, but then stands there looking scared instead of running away. We can't help but yell at the screen "why the hell aren't you running?!" It's incredibly frustrating, because it removes any ability to believe in the story.

Honestly, I hate being this negative, but this is just bad writing. There was absolutely no foreshadowing about this, Kano just randomly thought 'oh right I've always been worried about my dad by the way' in the middle of figurative nowhere, and surprise he appears in the next chapter. It's obvious the author threw this in as a way to drag the plot along, they probably think once they resolve the central conflict the manga is over, so they're desperately trying to stall it in any way possible. It's just... lazy. It's incredibly lazy. They've created a character with the sole intent of grinding the story to a halt. Again. He serves literally no other purpose here. It's possible they drew the plot element out of a hat, along with 'character has to move away', 'another love interest beats main character to confession', and 'bullying at school'. At no point do any of these change the story, only move the goalpost another hundred yards away, over and over, perpetually avoiding the ending like a bad soap opera.

This manga needs a goddamn writer, because this story is 90% length-padding and 10% actual content. I know we're all on the same page, but it consistently baffles me that published manga can be this formulaic.

I wonder if predatory lolis have always been the norm, or I'm just noticing it more often? Actually, Kodomo no Jikan, yeah, this has always been a thing.

@norainhere I think it's because Patch X Remi doesn't have any of the power dynamic of Sakuya X Remi or Koa X Patch, or the inherent weirdness of Flandre X Remi. Reimu X Remi comes close, but since Reimu gets shipped with literally everyone, it loses a lot of the impact as just another brick in the massive foundation of Marisa and/or Reimu works. It's a pairing that makes sense, isn't overdone, and seems for the most part grounded in mutual respect, not physical attraction. (Most of the time.)

I still wish we saw more Reisen X Youmu, though.

in before Chiyuri had to quit because someone said her smile was scary.

Man, I love this yuri, getting to the damn point. No subtext, no misunderstanding, no drama, just two girls being cute at each other.

But... but what about the bird?

Knock knock, it's the Pacing Police and you're under arrest.

I like you.

I feel like this glosses over a lot of questions the family has after their daughter is stolen from the alter by a giant fox on the day of her wedding.

Man, I miss turn based RPGs that aren't retro pixeled.

Someone is gonna have to explain this ship.

I did not expect this ship.

I'm not usually one for shipping wars, but I don't see Hina in this shot

Also a reminder that the Full Chorus DLC is out sometime next week.

We all float down here.

I'm pretty sure Sanae has a spellcard for this.

Reminds me of a picture I grabbed years ago.

Remilia X Satori is justice

oh my god just tell her it's not for a manga why is this so hard to understand