makes me think maybe Team Gaji is planning on making her a protagonist

I don't think so to be honest. Sumin was thinking of Sungji now, when she was holding that tie (it was Sungji who gave it to her)
I agree with you that Sumin and Sungji's love seem more highshchool-like, and I don't find it as interesting as Seju. But I don't care about Seju x Sumin anymore, since it's obvious by now that Sumin wants Sungji. After a point it gets too much and I stopped caring. At least they should just keep this consistent now and go for a full Sumin x Sungji without more baiting.

I can't really speak rn, because we still don't know the ending, but I think they didn't handle the whole love triangle quite right. They should have developed Sungji's character more than this and made Seju less sympathetic. Also Nami saying that Sumin was happy when she was with Sungji kinda already foreshadows the end. She also says You really understand a lot of things to Sungji. Which shows that Sungji is more perceptive than shes shows but I really think they haven't done good job at this. Unless, of course they reveal something in the end, that Sungji was hiding and turned the situation around for her.

Doesn't matter Seju never liked Nami. Everything is possible here lol.

Because... Bad writing and overpowered MC

Seriously every woman likes her, it makes her character more unlikable imo. She's not that good anyway.
But I still wouldn't be surpised if Nami and Seju end up together, something like we both loved Sumin so we have this in common

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hehe not even Nami loved Seju :D ;-;

It feels like these chapters are fillers.

Also, last chapter Nami says to Sungji that she was actually in love with Sumin, not Seju. That was probably the plot twist Gaji was talking about

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Nice attention to details. I didn't notice it before. Thanks for pointing it out.

I like how we have canon Haruki x Isuke, Banba x Sumireko, Chitaru x Hitsugi, & Haru x Tokaku. I wish the others were canonized, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Not sure if SumiBanba is considered canon here. They just showed them being maid and ojousama The others were not to be canon anyway. Like Suzu, she was visiting her dead bf's grave. Shiena hadn't shown signs of actually being interested in Otoya too, tbh. So it would feel forced to pair them in the end, just cause. Plus I'm glad because Otoya is crazy.

I find the manga to be better. It's quite similar to the anime, but there are some little moments that make it gayer which they didn't show in the anime. Also, only extra was Haru and Tokaku relationship in the end, showing them in the future (I guess some years later, considering how longer their hair had gotten)

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At least we have Izetta and Flip Flappers this season (although I don't watch the latter).

Wouldn't the Taki romance be considered a phase too? I mean, he's older than her and he's a grieving widow

It's a type of phase too, in the sense that he is someone Reina admires as a musician and she could be infatuted with him because she wants to be as good as him. Also the fact that she has no chance for him.
But Reina's reactions to Taki are different and more blatantly romantic than with Kumiko. This, plus he is a man, so it is viewed as more serious.

KumiRei was pretty gay...and then there is Taki again. Since they erased almost all Shuiichi parts, they should just remove the Reina-Taki ones too. They could keep Taki's back story, but damn this yuri -het exchange from one minute to another is just bad. They are trying too hard to prove this is just a phase.

There weren't as many romantic interactions like the main pairing, but there were hints throughout the manga. Like Isuke looking sad when Haruki lost, saying she prefers blue collar workers, etc. Considering her character, not sure how much more sweet, in small amount of time they could make them without going OOC.

I was never a fan of Mamori too, but her character is used to its best potential; comedy. Art is really great, story is funny and good. Seems like this author could write a good comedy-yuri that is not the typical "school-girl" type.

But I hope there is some Lady Lady next too. Seriously, best couple of VDM imo.

There are raws from here;

https://www.mediafire.com/?kky7md9k674vu6z

Isuke and Haruki get officially together!!!

Translator is probably taking some time off. The Korean version has been uploaded though.

Hotaru is not distancing herself anymore tho, once Yuma kissed her she was drawn back in just like that.

Not sure about that. When she kisses Yuma it's because "kissing means nothing anyway". So it seems that she is emotionally distant to Yuma, even though she hasn't physically gone.

Kannazuki No Miko. If you haven't watched it, the girl likes the guy too but likes the other girl more.

I saw it as him associating that not being comfortable enough for sex = SHE DOESN'T REALLY LOVE YOU, which makes me feel "eh". Aren't "nice guys" supposed to like, aim for being loving, understanding and supportive, but instead he was like "it's okay, you don't have to force yourself, *pained face*, *stops talking to her for the rest of winter break*". It irks me, that unwillingness to have sex correlated with "she's not into you". Ofc it's always a possibility, but he made a leap and stuck with it and just pouted like a kid for weeks.

Not trying to defend him or anything, but I don't think it was only because of the sex. He had probably picked up on Yuma's vibes too and sex was the most tangible proof.
Sure, he didn't handle the situation the best, but this is very common with people that may not have bad intentions but end up screwing up because they don't know the right way to do it.

I don't think Yuma liked Takeda in a romantic or sexual way. She liked him as a friend and someone nice to hang out with. So she thought, since he was a guy and she was supposed to find a bf, this meant she might like him in that way too. That's why, in the first chapter he asks her "When it comes to us, what is the difference"

If Yuma liked him that way, she would do it. She does it with Hotaru because she likes her. I don't think Hotaru is manipulating her this time now.

Anyway, this type of NTR is only bad because of the abuse parts. It is not angsty on an emotional level regarding the third people (the guys) because neither Yuma nor Hotaru have actual feelings for them. It's not like KnM or WDTFS where there are actually feelings for two people

Yuma should have dumped Takeda ages ago. That guy is going to make her life hell once he knows for sure. Either by getting violent or by sending her into a guilt-trip.

Actually, he dumped her. They aren't dating anymore.

Aren't they in some kind of pause or something? I seem to recall he didn't want to break up completely.

They are not dating. He said they should take a break from each other, meaning they have to break up.
From what I've seen in the latest chapter, I don't think he would be like Fujiwara if he finds out about them. He seems to be more of a yurifan between them because he was blushing etc. Also Japanese readers like him, so I don't think Kodama would turn him into Fujiwara No2, but you never know.
When they broke up with Yuma, I dont think it was because she wouldn't sleep with him. He just realised that Yuma was not in love with him. He could have pushed her that night more if he only cared for sex imo.

It's interesting to see where this goes regarding Hotaru distancing herself, as well as her job. Hope next chapters focuses on this instead of Fujiwara blackmailing again

Uhm I don't know, they seem done.
But maybe Kodama might put them together again in the future, I really hope she won't but we can't know with her.

She keeps the guys around because the whole theme of this manga is NTR. She couldn't be on topic if they stop appearing.
Takeda is already NTR'ed, but now it's also Fujiwara's turn too

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her "fear" indicates that the reason she's letting it happen isn't just because she's unaware of her growing feelings/lust towards Hotaru, but mainly cus Hotaru straight up left her once.

When did that happen? You mean when Hotaru got bf for the first time, or Fujiwara? I didn't seem like that to me. It was Yuma who left Hotaru because of her highschool friends

To some extent, we know that Yuma reciprocates, but there's also other concerns and feels mixed it with it, so it isn't... optimal, or as simple as "they like each other so it's all good".

Noticed that too. It gives room for development and more drama probably

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Seems like we'll get an arc where Yuma will start going after Hotaru. from what she says in this chapter, she seems bothered that Hotaru kissing her means so little to Hotaru
Also, Fujiwara once again proved biggest a-hole

At least Hotaru and Yuma like each other. Worst thing that can happen imo is this indifference and lack of emotions from a character. I prefer them a little yandere rather than void of emotions

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Im just going to leave this here
http://clar-a-m.tumblr.com/post/153580956774/kumiko-and-reina-study-together

And now watch as they 180 het end us.

No studio in their right mind would take a sudden turn like that in the end. At least we are more free to ship them with open ending, which is good.

This video is part of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BvoveZVNnU

,where there is also another KumiRei part where Reina is drunk and says interesting things...starting at 30:36

translation from /a/

-Kumiko are you listening to me?
-Are you drunk on the amazake, Reina? Okay, okay I'm listening.
-Why do you need to flirt with Tsukamoto when you have me?
-I don't really flirt with him though
-Is that how it is?
-Um, Reina? You've got a creepy look in your eyes
-It's okay, I'll be gentle
-What do you mean by gentle? Waitwaitwait
-I won't wait. I'll take it all before Tsukamoto can

Loool I laughed when Yuzu is all serious about her problem with people finding out about her relationship, and Mei thinks she has screwed something up in their date
I think Mei's cold personality is now used for comedy. It's better than seeing the nagative side of it

I'm definitely giving Flip Flappers another shot after it's done airing but what's up with Izetta and Fines relationship, like, is it legit? Or bait? Atleast good bait?

So far it's bait, but it's good bait

Well, I think if an episode is out,(for atleast a day) then spoilers are not needed. Because we can't really know in which episode everyone has put the anime on hold.
I think it's more of this person's responsibillity to know when they visit a thread that discusses about current anime spisodes. Just my thoughts.

Yeah I know gore is body parts and all that. But they both make me cringe more or less, so that's more of a "personal category" I put them both in

Is horror supposed to have rape too though? I like horror but rape is more in the gore category for me. It can be interesting without having to be cringey af. Nonetheless it's still horror I guess, but I'd prefer if they stayed in the hentai category.
Not saying anything about the author, just my thoughts on the genre.

Izetta x Fine is my otp for this season. I still don't believe all this foreshadowing will actually turn to have a bad ending. This anime just doesn't give me the tragedy ending vibe. I just think they are doing it to keep viewrs worried and watching. But I could be wrong.

The new witch seems interesting, but I was so pissed they let that Germanian spy go just like that. They didn't even ran after him..he's the biggest a-hole of this anime. The plot seems to be getting more interesting now.

Also unrelated to yuri, my favorite anime this season is Ajin.

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I hope they don't try to go full SHAFT on this one like they attempted to with Sakura Trick. While I didn't completely despise it on Sakura Trick, I think it won't fit NTR's style and kind of genre at all.

True. Sakura Trick is moe and cute girls doing meaningless fanservice. NTR is not like that. Sure there is plenty of fanservice, but it's dark themed and has also plot and story.
If they focus on Hotaru grabbing Yuma, this is going to be complete disaster. I hope they don't destroy this.
Supposedly anime adaptations are meant to improve the manga material they have for tv. There are already two good seiyuus confirmed, so hopefully they are taking this seriously.