Well, that's the thing with Maki. She actually wants to do things, but convinces herself that she can't or shouldn't. Not that it fools Nozomi.

MakiPana is the adorableness overdrive ship.

The weak should fear the lolis

Don't Fear the Loli

cowbell intensifies

Always was under the impression Japan's plethora of weird fetishes (as in above and beyond the usual) had more to do with the serious and constant social and cultural stresses they live under, and have for several hundred years. People tend to get a bit odd under such pressures.

Hence Victorian-era Brits covering up the legs on pianos and tables, and that whole disciplinarian Catholic nun thing.

A title like that and no transformation scene? I am disappoint.

le sigh

MakiUmi isn't an uncommon ship, and it makes a lot of sense in context. For one thing, as composer and songwriter they spend quite a bit of time alone with each other so they've got plenty of opportunity to get to know each other. They're both fairly reserved people, but that feeling of safety could embolden Maki and have her drop some of her defensiveness.

What's the name of that one shot where two girls got rejected by someone at the same day, they meet up together and hooked up together? (They might have had sex too but I don't remember). I think they also exchanged accessory at the end.

Sounds like Tall & Short to me.

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Lol wait a minute, why are you begging? Why don't you enforce your rule? Just admit you're biased and have no real business being a moderator

Well, okay. I'll enforce Rule One since you seem to have an utter lack of self-control.

Have a nice life.

Sibyllalal, please. Can we leave it at that?

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I'm calling an end to the "It's okay to bully weak people" side of this discussion.

You want to keep talking about the actual story go ahead. But otherwise, drop it.

"More than two genders" either a foolish writer or the translator is pushing an agenda. More than two sexualitys, sure, but genders? People really need to stop trying to redefine words and biology

Sullivan, I'm getting pretty tired of you pushing your agenda. Cool it, or we're going to have issues.

You know me well, mint-leaf.

Yes, I like it Sam-I-Am.

I "love" how we can't get UmiMaki without some nerd whining about a completely different ship.

Went to the comments for puns and jokes, saw tension and arguing.. welp crawls back to my cave

Norway!

Forget Norway!

I know you’d like to, but Kenya?

Only in Kenya.

Went to the comments for puns and jokes, saw tension and arguing.. welp crawls back to my cave

Norway!

Forget Norway!

...I am aware that most people want dark haired characters to appear weak...

Wait, what?

While we're at it, this isn't the Octave discussion. If you want to discuss Octave, go there instead, this isn't the place for it.

And please, try to do the minimum and actually read it before you do.

Enough, SomethingOrOther. If you can't be mature enough to discuss things, can't stay on topic with regard to the series being discussed, and can't even be bothered to get your facts straight about the other series you're trying to make a point about, you can stop posting in this discussion.

I will delete any further posts from you here, and those of anyone replying to you. Continued posting will result in bans of increasing length.

SomethingOrOther, leave it. I'm deleting your gratuitously gross post. Don't bother rewriting it, I'm calling an end to this frankly idiotic argument which is tangential to the actual manga at best.

Please don't generalize 'realistic'. What I think of realistic here maybe just simply good story writing. Story that understand people emotion and their problem in life. Not plot driven or drama driven stories.

Well, that's why I think the undertone when people say they want "realistic" is "a story I can relate to". So like Collectors, maybe, or Morishima's Lesbian Solo stuff, or, well...this.

Hanlon's Razor applies, as always.

Using Mensa to justify how smart you are and therefore how right your point is, I'm dyin' here!

Using Mensa to counter the argument that I am retarded.

I've seen Mensa members who are absolute idiots when they get outside their field of expertise. Doubly so when you're talking social matters. A number on a test that's known to be flawed, measuring a quality we don't even have a firm definition on doesn't really say much except you're good at passing that particular kind of test.

But wow, do Mensa members love to brag about that number though.

As to dying... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-jytIyB05s

(psst...it's slang for laughing so hard it hurts. Those pesky social matters, remember?)

Using Mensa to justify how smart you are and therefore how right your point is, I'm dyin' here!

An aside that occurs to me here, where does this whole "realistic = bad things" idea come from? It's not like romantic relationships and nice things don't happen in real life or anything. People have happy, lasting relationships. People make sweet gestures and can be funny or happy or lighthearted.

I think when a lot of people say "I want more realistic stories", they don't mean they want stories about breakups and arguments and tragedy, per se. Those make for interesting stories, but my thought is that what people want are relateable stories instead. Things that could actually happen, but not necessarily downers. Maybe a little more complex than "Schoolgirl A meets Schoolgirl B via some contrived event and it's love at first sight", maybe a little closer to people's lives so they might be able to imagine themselves doing stuff like that too. Look at Off Time by Morishima Akiko. It's sweet, it's happy, it's realistic. In the relateable sense, that is.