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Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

hi! author here. i should have said it on Twitter with more context, Nao and Hina are best friends at the end but how their relationship will turn romantic or familial is up to your imagination. i meant that "i" prefer they stay friends but thats just my opinion.
Anyways, thank you for all the support<3 it means so much to me. (sorry for my poor English)

I have confirmed on twitter this is indeed Chariot-san. I'll leave the tags as is for now, but might change it again based on this new info and what people decide.

I think it should entirely depend on what the author wants, if they reach out again or if you could get some confirmation from them about the tags. I genuinely wish to respect the author's wishes, and their intended vision for the story. I was giving some thoughts and opinions on my preferences, and I feel bad that the author came here to clarify that the story is open to reader interpretation. As I said, I definitely don't mind it when authors are clear cut about their intended vision, and I have no desire to change anything based on my preferences and/or wishes/desires.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

hi! author here. i should have said it on Twitter with more context, Nao and Hina are best friends at the end but how their relationship will turn romantic or familial is up to your imagination. i meant that "i" prefer they stay friends but thats just my opinion.
Anyways, thank you for all the support<3 it means so much to me. (sorry for my poor English)

Thanks for the comment, and your English is great! I understand the desire to have them be friends, and the way you built up the narrative is fantastic. Thank you so much for this amazing story, and your fantastic art!

Edit: Also apologies if I was rude at all, I definitely did not intend to be.

last edited at Feb 21, 2021 10:41PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I should mention the Kiss Hina gave Nao was implied to have been Familial, being a callback to how she kisses her family members. So, although this is just subtext a Yuri Author put in to sprinkle their work, it does play into that theme of familial love

Yeah I understand this as well. The affection shown is set up as the type of physical affection she shows for her family, and the familial contact the other girl longed for. So I understand why the friends angle is what the author was aiming for. Still interesting how it's easy to perceive this Yuri without the author's afterword.

Edit:

Yeah, that kiss can easily be read as Yuri but remember that Hina kisses her family members, too, so the scene was tryna implicate how Nao is her family

Ah I was probably typing this last comment of mine when you were submitting this, so I didn't see it until after submitting my own comment. I agree with you, and understand that's the built up narrative the author was aiming for, it's smart in my opinion even if I'd like them to be involved romantically.

The Mangaka is a Yuri Author, after all, so you could argue it's either habitual or there to help spice up the story through cute undertones

Yeah that's part of what I was saying to Dayer, people like myself in part expected Yuri because of the author. I've been following them for awhile on Twitter, and they're great.

last edited at Feb 21, 2021 10:25PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I should mention the Kiss Hina gave Nao was implied to have been Familial, being a callback to how she kisses her family members. So, although this is just subtext a Yuri Author put in to sprinkle their work, it does play into that theme of familial love

Yeah I understand this as well. The affection shown is set up as the type of physical affection she shows for her family, and the familial contact the other girl longed for. So I understand why the friends angle is what the author was aiming for. Still interesting how it's easy to perceive this Yuri without the author's afterword.

Edit:

Yeah, that kiss can easily be read as Yuri but remember that Hina kisses her family members, too, so the scene was tryna implicate how Nao is her family

Ah I was probably typing this last comment of mine when you were submitting this, so I didn't see it until after submitting my own comment. I agree with you, and understand that's the built up narrative the author was aiming for, it's smart in my opinion even if I'd like them to be involved romantically.

last edited at Feb 21, 2021 10:16PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

And if you're sad this doesn't end in romance: trauma in real life isn't always solved with a romantic partner. Sometimes it's just about finally having people you can trust who care about you. This story is the start of Nomura's healing, not the end.

Oh of course, a good support network is important regardless of romance or friends. I think the main reason why people, or at least myself, were hoping for romance is that they have a very sweet dynamic. Plus the creator frequently makes Yuri, so they attract a certain audience with their works, and it's part of why it's a bit of a surprise that it's entirely only meant to be friends here.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Amazing! The Mangaka responded to me asking her if the two girls end up together or stay as family!

That being said, this calls into question whether the Yuri Tag should still be on here or if it should be replaced with the Subtext Tag or removed altogether

Interesting, thanks for the info! While I'd love this to be Yuri, the tag should probably be removed to respect the author's wishes. Plus I mean friendship is great as well. Though I am a little surprised, since with the kiss and the handholding at the end, I thought it was implied that they were going to develop into more than friends, especially with the mom teasing them about it. I guess sometimes it's hard to understand the author's intentions just from reading a story, especially since interpretation will vary between different readers. That's why I personally prefer it when author's say, "I'll leave it up to your imagination" as a response for such questions, but I also understand why authors want to have a clear cut narrative.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

That was an absurdly adorable read, thanks for the translation!

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

1) The best revenge is a life well-lived
2) The prime motivator for abuse is control. There doesn't need to be a reason beyond that.

You know, if you had gone through that situation, you wouldn't say that. The best revenge would be if the person who hurt you dead. Obviously you wouldn't kill nobody but thinking about that is like... peace. When you dream about sleeping without fear. Living without pain. What a fucking pleasure.

And I know this sounds horrible, sorry.

That sounds unhealthy, and like serious therapy is needed.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

1) The best revenge is a life well-lived
2) The prime motivator for abuse is control. There doesn't need to be a reason beyond that.

That as well yeah, a lot of abuse stems from a desire for control.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Oh no I know about that. It was just family was a bit too much ' evil without a reason'' and it got a bit too heavy suddenly from neglecting her to beating her up was a bit too fast. But I agree with you and it was actually pretty nice to show that acutally family is the people we love and share our lives with instead of just bloodline.

A lot of abuse within families is "evil without reason". There's a lot of people that are just mean, often for next to no reason. I don't think the physical violence was "too sudden" or unrealistic, her family was already emotionally and verbally abusive and she spoke out because of her frustration, so it's unfortunately not unrealistic for an abusive family in that situation to go from 0 to 100 in a moment of rage and start beating her. It happens in real life all the time. It's also entirely possible they were already physically abusive in the past, she said this is just how her family shows their "love". This story only showed some of her life and some of the abuse she endured, and it even said she hated her family before the starting point of the story.

It sounds like you're saying the author made the abuse a "bit too much", which bothers me. Physical and emotional abuse of this extent is unfortunately more common than you might think. I don't think this manga is unrealistic in that regard. Some families have severe cases of all kinds of abuse, including sexual abuse as well. People sometimes even kill their children, even in just a brief moment of rage it happens.

I totally agree with this part being realistic, but in this case I think we also have to admit that a forehead kiss and someone who cherishes you (and a place to be yourself even) may not be a good enough afford for healing emotionally and mentally. I love love love this manga, but I think the ending portrays getting out of an abusive situation too lightly. I still am happy that they are seemingly very happy with each other, they are too cute!

Well the main thing is that it's a one-shot, so only so much time in the world. Yes she very likely needs therapy, but I think the one-shot perfectly encapsulates the point of the narrative, which is "Moving on from an abusive family and making a new family with people that actually love you, is one of the best things you can do, and blood relations don't really matter".

Edit: I also think a big point of the narrative is that it ends on a hopeful note of, "She's moving on, and starting the healing process". Yes there's more work to be done, but that's again not the point of this one-shot.

last edited at Feb 21, 2021 6:34PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

Well, she certainly hadn't considered she might be swinging this way before all this, but her reactions every time Aya gets closer to her clearly show she's already falling for her even without the need of Aya's "education".

Yeah I suppose that's true. I mainly thought the author intended her reactions and inner thoughts to be due to Aya's "education", and pushiness. So that's why I thought the author was really pushing for a conversation angle, and it rubbed me the wrong way. Again though, maybe I misinterpreted the author's intent.

There's also the fact that the LN does nothing but keep showing her constantly thinking and feeling gay things but then constantly denying she's actually gay because of her obsession with normality and upholding the pride she has that's keeping her from admitting she's been resisting for nothing, cuz that would be a massive blow to her ego

Ah I'm entirely unfamiliar with the LN admittedly, so that's helpful information, thanks!

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

This was a great read.

Well that was nice, but it is a shame that there was no repercussions for her family.

Sometimes shitty people get away with being shitty. The best thing Nomura can do is spend her life happily with people she loves, and let her family continue being miserable together while she carves her own future.

Also, this manga is genuinely fantastic and I loved it to pieces. I also love that the author's twitter handle is "imgayhowbouthat".

Yeah unfortunately shitty people get away with being shitty all the time IRL, the best "revenge" she can have is living her best life.

IT was greeeeeat art was amazingg. The family was a bit too much ubt I liked it I actually expected that she will leave her family and since they don't really care about her that it wouldn't be a problem but this is nice too.

It sounds like you're saying the author made the abuse a "bit too much", which bothers me. Physical and emotional abuse of this extent is unfortunately more common than you might think. I don't think this manga is unrealistic in that regard. Some families have severe cases of all kinds of abuse, including sexual abuse as well. People sometimes even kill their children, even in just a brief moment of rage it happens.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

Well, she certainly hadn't considered she might be swinging this way before all this, but her reactions every time Aya gets closer to her clearly show she's already falling for her even without the need of Aya's "education".

Yeah I suppose that's true. I mainly thought the author intended her reactions and inner thoughts to be due to Aya's "education", and pushiness. So that's why I thought the author was really pushing for a conversation angle, and it rubbed me the wrong way. Again though, maybe I misinterpreted the author's intent.

last edited at Feb 21, 2021 4:23PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 20 Feb 21:17
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017
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^Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to be harsh. Apologies if I was, I was just curious if I was out of the loop with something, maybe a meme. Yeah google translation messes up gender constantly, whenever Chrome auto translates Yuri posts on Twitter it says the characters are male, and I'm like okay then...

FluffyCow
Image Comments 20 Feb 19:13
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017
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^Kiara's Valentine's Song is a confession song, the confession is meant for Calli. You can see Kiara handing a box of chocolates to Calli's hands at about 3:45. The video art is also by Mamaloni, an artist that's been very active with the Takamori ship, and even drawing art for Kiara for things like the music video.

last edited at Feb 20, 2021 7:17PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

The first chapter, I was thinking this would be more of a silly and absurd take on the "I bet I can make you fall in love with me" type of narrative, just with an added gambling element for the sake of I suppose...flare? However the second chapter is honestly just offensive? A straight girl is supposedly going to become gay...by being hugged while watching lesbian porn...

Just, what even.

Edit: Is this manga just this meme/joke comic?

last edited at Feb 20, 2021 1:36PM

FluffyCow
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I think page 31 was my favorite, thanks for translating this! <3

i thought those were already her nipples.. but still gorgeous art

They're pasties if I'm not mistaken.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 20 Feb 00:18
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017
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^He and his? Did I miss something? Kiara is a woman as far as I know...

FluffyCow
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Well that was a cute update.

FluffyCow
taste discussion 15 Feb 15:37
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Holy hell those canines. Made me think this was going to turn into a vampire story before I looked at the tags.

Going by the emoji on the source and this post, Yuri's supposed to be a snakegirl here - you just can't see her tail.

You can also see hexagons that represent scales on her arms

Nice catch. This is definitely the artist's snake girl OC, and they even use the snake emoji in the post for this comic. So I think we can safely tag this with monster girl?

FluffyCow
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Well I'm very curious how the next chapter will go.

FluffyCow
Image Comments 09 Feb 04:00
Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017
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^Eh? Since when? I mean I'm not super in the know about the meta, and I know the game favors DPS checks with the likes of time limits, but I think for a decent amount of gameplay you can still use the character teams that you like pretty easily.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

When there's an extremely long and descriptive title, you know that it's either a LN adaptation or a Twitter comic. Honestly, I was expecting the latter.

lol It's actually amazing how the "long sentence as the title" for LN, manga, and anime hasn't fallen out of vogue yet. I guess it's proven to be an effective way to draw in readers if the cover artwork isn't enough considering the sheer volume of stuff coming out of Japan every day.

From my understanding it's popular because it gives readers a brief summary of the series in the title. As you said a massive quantity of content comes out every day, and people often don't know what to buy and don't want to take the time to read every summary, so authors adapted by putting a "TLDR" summary in titles. It's just part of the market in an attempt to stay competitive.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I've seen "how to have sex with another girl" googled in several manga before, but "how to have sex with a female hamster" will definitely be a first...