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To me she is weak. Because she kept on going back to Seju for emotional support, even though she one it was bad for her.
And also, she is able to move on from her now, that she found another person to lean on. If it wasn't for Sungji, she would still be doing the same with sleeping around and then going back to Seju.

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Meh a weak person who is also clingy and can't stand on their own, they can be serial daters. Not saying Sumin is definitely like that, just that this doesn't say anything about her being strong.

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A leech? No, Sumin is not a leech. I wonder why so many of you seems to forget Seju was pushing Sumin to be with Sungji because she wanted her to "crawl back to her".

Where did she push Sungji though? She did hire her to mess with Sumin, but besides that fact, she has stayed out of their relationship most of the time. Except the cheating of course, which yes it was a dick move but it was also Sumins fault.
Seju didn't even fire Sungji when she knew that Sumin had fallen for her.

I'm not saying Seju is an angel of course either. But what Sumin did, is not erased by Seju's bad actions either. The ball was on her curt weather to reject Seju's gifts. Because Seju was trying to earn her forgiveness with all these gifts and self destructive behavior. Sumin knew that, but she chose to accept them anyway.

Sumin has grown up now, she sure can live without her sugar mommy. What I wish to see is that after 10 years of sugaring raising her Sungji baby, she gets dumped.

Lol this is a bit mean, but I laughed. Are we getting aggressive guys? XD

last edited at Mar 6, 2017 1:29PM

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I think people misinterpret having layers with being introverted. Sumin is an introvert, but besides that, what else is there to her character?
Stuff like she cares for Sungji and is hurt are too general, and every person has them. She is not special.
We've only seen how she had been sleeping around and was trying to hurt Seju. Now that she has finally found a better choice, she doesn't consider Seju's feelings either.

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Just because Sungji managed to make Sumin fall for her and Seju didn't, it's not a proof that Sumin tried more with Sungji. It's a proof that Gaji did a bad job to make the main couple well developed.

well, your statement is pretty harsh when we did not see Sungji POV yet,
their relationship is also driven by Sumin desire to fall in love again with another person which makes her even try harder to make it work + Sungji refusal to end things the way Seju wants.

I was specifically referring to Sungji taking Sumin back very easily. Sumin literally didn't work for it at all. They just met each other and jumbed straight to bed.
Sumin might work for their relationship in the future more, but her cheating has been forgiven way too easily. Which to me seems pretty bad for many reasons.
And I still can't understand why Sungji is so in love with Sumin, when the latter has not been the best of a partner to say the least. Like, what is so great about Sumin anyway. I'm speaking from what we've seen so far, and not of what might happen.

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 9:10PM

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No, she did. She told Sungji that Seju was her first love. She felt guilty for being bad to Seju for all those years so when she begged for it to be their last time she couldn't refuse. She knew very well she did a mistake, she felt bad for it, but still walked out of her bed and worked to get back to Sungji.

So she literally just admitted that Seju was her first love after Sungji caught them cheating...and that's enough? She didn't even say a single word about her past with Seju before, which was the time when it really mattered. And if the cheating didn't happen, she would still not say anything.
Besides admitting the obvious because she was caught.and forced to admit it, did she really do anything more?
Literally nothing. And feeling bad about the cheating means nothing, since only a sociopath wouldn't feel guilty after cheating.
The next time they reconciled, they literally saw each other and jumped to bed.

In the past Seju was unable to do so, she had to be dragged out from her bed by her bro who decided to put some nasty scars on Sumin which made Sumin even more disgusted by Seju. Sungji is also a very forgiving person, I think. And she really do love Sumin. She also knows Sumin loves her since she confessed to her a couple of times, which contradicted what Seju told her once - that Sumin will never love her.

Seju tried 100 times harder for Sumin to forgive her. All these years she never slept with anyone else, and she was trying to break the ice in Sumin's heart.
Just because Sungji managed to make Sumin fall for her and Seju didn't, it's not a proof that Sumin tried more with Sungji. It's a proof that Gaji did a bad job to make the main couple well developed.

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 12:48PM

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Not so magically. And the weren't even fully naked when Sungji found them together in one bed. Sumin found Seju after she had sex with that bartender, Sungji found Sumin before things went too far. This is one of the differences.

A cheating doesn't get any better by the amount of how many sexual stuff have been done. It is the trust and betrayal of it that hurts the person who is being cheated.
A couple of extra sexual poses won't make any difference in the end. Especially for someone like Sumin who was hiding a lot of stuff from Sungji.

The other one is that Sumin actually explained why it almost happened and worked hard to earn forgiveness while Seju never did such thing.

She actually didn't explain anything at all. They briefly talked about keeping some distance exactly after Sungji caught them, and right after they met again they started having sex right away. Sungji asked nothing.

last edited at Mar 5, 2017 10:52AM

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I know this will sound bad to say for a yuri manhwa, but at this point I'm yolo for Seju's partner. If it was a nice guy that she could love, I'd take it too.

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^lol how did you even thought of this combination?
The only relation I can find is that his VA will be Fujiwara in NTR anime :P

Well being single is not always a bad thing. She can be happy and single at the sane time

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Sumin said she doesn't care about Seju's family but she cared for Seju

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That girl doesn't look like an assassin though, more like a lost girl who wants to find a job, lol. The way she is portrayed and dressed is quite cool though, I expect this girl to a strong woman with boyish traits, a perfect match for sexy feminine Seju, lol =))))))). But not so bad to be killed by this cool woman though =))))

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but that person totally gives a bad vibe. She is not there for anything good. Plus wears all black, and writers tend to use appearance to pass some clued about a character. But who knows.

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I don't think it's necessarily someone's flashbacks, like one of them is thinking about it. It seems like it's for the readers.
Sumin wanted to pay Seju back, because she didn't want to feel like she owes her anything.
So since she planned to pay her back, why nit actually keep the house too, right? lol

To me it seems like she still has some attachment to Seju, but that doesn't matter anyway. It is better they did it this way, because it would be weird showing Sumin to completely move on so quickly.

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Umm I thought this was a guy in the end...but now that I checked again, it does have feminine face.
She/he is probably there to hurt Seju.

Sumin seems that she is still attached to Seju, but it seems that Seju is slowly moving on. She didn't try to convince Sumin to stay. I like how she finally seems to letting it go. Because frankly they would be dragging this too much at this point.

The obvious here would be that this person in the end is to do something bad to Seju, but maybe there's a plot twist and it's actually for new team leader, or even Seju has hired them to hurt Sumin and Sungji lol.
She does look like Sumin with short hair.

last edited at Feb 28, 2017 10:32AM

MacySan
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In my opinion, yuri is best left to a relationship between two female characters without negative interference from male characters.

But that's just your preference for yuri. Drama and angst don't make it less of yuri.
I don't agree that all yuri stories should have all female cast. Because I like realism too.
Also in an all female cast, sometimes it just feels like the girls are "prison gay" since there are no options for them left besides girls. And it's safe, because a lot of the Japanese audience thinks that when these girls get out of this situation, they'll go back to men.

So yeah, having male characters is also good because it shows that these girls don't do it because they have no other choice for partner.
I mean, look at how harems work. There are gay undertones in a lot of them, and as soon as a male character enters, they all act like crazy to get him.

As long as they don't show the female actually having romantic feelings for the male character, or any het sx scene, I'd say it's pretty yuri. And both Hotaru and Yuma have shown that they are not actually interested in their bfs.

last edited at Feb 26, 2017 7:20AM

MacySan
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I have a feeling Sue does this to Olivia so she can get Mel's attention.

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Is calling Seju pink bitch really necessary? Don't demand respect if you can't respect.

I agree this feels like it takes too long to say nothing. The beginning of the chapter reminded me of het porn plot, with Sumin saying how she wants Sungji to cum without looking at her face lol
Well if they tone down the sex it would be better. Since there was also story in this chapter, like Sungji's brother talking about Sumin with his wife. There was something new at least.
But I still think the whole cheating thing got solved way too easy. And also Sumin forgot Seju way too easy too, when she herself wanted to quit because she was afraid she would dump Sungji to be with her.

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From a writer's perspective, this flashback is an introduction to the situation where it is finally certain Sumin won't ever go back to Seju.
And it's not necessarily bad, since it could be showing how Seju is finally accepting this fact. (she is the one thinking this flashback) Since she was aware that she relied on Sumin way too much in her life.

It can also be an introduction to Seju attempting to break them up of course, but I have a.feeling that they will redeem her character in the end. If they don't it will be really stupid. Since.they created this interesting character only to throw her away when they done.

last edited at Feb 9, 2017 12:34AM

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Wherever there is yuri, there is /a/ trying too hard to turn it into het. So I wouldn't take that as a reliable source before actually seeing it.

The show has turned way better than I imagined. It's a nice comedy show with Yuri. Not yuri with comedy, which honestly I like more. Since the Yuri tropes get to become repetitive after dome point.
I generally don't find the trying too hard comedy funny. Like the ones where characters scream and make weird expressions. But this one is neat.

last edited at Feb 6, 2017 8:01AM

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50s is not that old as to have white hair. Maybe 70s lol. And it's actually not that big of an age gap with Seju(the 50s one). At this point I feel like yolo with Seju's potential future partner, if she ever gets one.

Anyway, I think it's too much to ask for an explanation why Sumin suddenly stopped caring for Seju. It's writing, doesn't have to always make sense.
Besides, it could still be something like she missed Sungji so.much that her focus was only for her. And also the fact that she was already feeling guilty for cheating on her.
It's the final arc, so we have to see her getting over Seju and sticking with Sungii

last edited at Jan 30, 2017 7:43PM

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Lmao don't worry Seju is pink hair. Blonde and brown are safe with each other.

Also I'm sure mole guy likes Seju this way. She reminds him of her mother. Kinda sad how every candidate besides Sumin is nuts. (see also Nami)

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Actually Sumin is black hair xD
Low key waiting for someone to say Seju ending up with a guy now lol.

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They can totally pull someone new for Seju in like, two chapters. Remember how Dawoon thing happened and resolved really fast. So 20 more chapters is pretty long.
She doesn't necessarily have to go abroad. She can stay in Korea and build anew.
Well I think Sumin will help her at some point and maybe they'll stay friends in the end. Killing her off would be pointless, since she has suffered a lot already, and killing her would mean all of her attempts to fix her life were futile.

last edited at Jan 29, 2017 1:33PM

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I don't think Sumin will do anything bad to Sungji now.
How many chapters have left now? 10 or 20?
If 20 then probably we'll get some drama. But since Sumin and Sungji are meant to be, Sumin has to not do the same mistakes that she did in the past, from a storytelling point of view.

Seju's hair is naturally curly, and personally I think the messy type of hairstyle suits her. It makes her look more like a woman.

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Yes I noticed the small differences too. Seems like since she starts standing up to her family, she could start being more emotionally independent too. These small details make her character well developed.
Also I actually like her hair shorter like this. Makes her look cool.

That mole guy telling her to be careful feels like it's a setup for something bad to happen though.

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It's Seju's house. She is just remembering Sumin.

I liked her outfit in this chapter. It makes her seem more assertive and life like. But I want this Sumin obsession to finally be over. It's pointless now.