Veya

Oh, I did get EX 5 literally just now, and it was such a weird fuckin thing, cuz I did literally nothing different from my previous 10 attempts or so, but every other attempt ended with me losing by the skin of my teeth... then this one attempt nobody died or was even pushed bellow half HP, and I won super easy, maybe I just got the absolute perfect RNG in this one run, or poor RNG in every other run, but this still feels so off... whatever, at least it is out of the way...

I did first 2 so far and they were incredibly easy... So maybe it really is just matter of RNG, because in first I was so lucky with drawing puella combos in first 2 turns that it only took me 1 turn each to kill forest and fire megucas (I forgot who they were) and only killing Sayaka off dragged, because I didn't have forest meguca (I had support Darc, Kyouko and Nanaka)

Second I went with support Homura, Nanaka and Kyouko, but once I saw that final boss is forest speaker, I wished I just went with Homura x Kyouko or picked other fire meguca instead of Nanaka. It dragged a bit and was close, but I won and if I had just went with duo or pick second fire meguca instead of Nanaka, I'd win it really fast.

I failed third but only because I went blindly support Darc, Mami and Kaede, but enemy had 2 dark megucas. Kirika was a pain with her taunt, so killing whoever water meguca was again took a bit. I killed both her and Kirika and maybe would kill Kanoko next turn, but I only had Mami left at this point and she charmed her...

Aww I missed it, that's what I get for being busy most of the day...

Miracles happen twice or however many times you need them to.

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So it ends with yuri couple?

It's in rules (you read them right? stares), but basically any site that doesn't care about scanlators and just steal and upload everything without care. Aggregating sites in short, like kissmanga, mangafox etc. That's why mangadex is k, because they do honors scanlators' wishes.

EDIT/ I went and check and i was sure mangadex was added there and I'm surprised to see (if I read it correctly) that kissmanga is actually there as a exception. I was sure it was considered evil site (then again some of those rules are really old, it still says Batoto and it doesn't exist anymore).

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We're not supposed to link evil sites on dynasty. Later I figured i could just link it to you and delete it later Ups. Too late..

That's the site I use. I'm pretty sure kissmanga would have it too, cos those are probably scans of official release.

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riverFlower posted:

95 difficulty is ridiculous. I did a double take when I saw that.

I didn't try playing EX challenges yet (it's first time we have those in that format of event), but eh? 95 diff is nothing new. Some of previous events already reached that level with their hardest quests. In fact I'm more surprised we never had any with 100 (or at least I never noticed one).

Edit: Oh and it's nice that they gave the event memoria fully maxed.

Yea, only first time they gave us non-limit broken, unleveled one without chance to maxing it. Later they probably realized it was terrible idea, but they could at least give us 4 other copies for free. Maybe during rerun (if we'll get one). But yea, now either they give us all 5 copies as rewards or if they only give 1, it's already max limit broken and max lvl'ed one.

Autumn posted:

Fragtime movie was a disaster sadly.

Yea. It was a huge disappointment.

I guess more important thing is instead of OS I should actually meantion I'm using Lenovo C2. Thanks for effort though x3

Rye posted:

I see you're using duckduckgo too.

Only acceptable option.

We nerds smartypants must fight the google overlords!

Yes! I won't let them spy on me and steal my data!

Jokes on me. I use android 6.

What did you use to record it?

Rye posted:

safebooru

Philosophical question though.

Is safebooru safe?

riverFlower posted:

Wow that's fast. When I do win Mirrors battles, it can be during turn 5, 7, or 9, but pretty much never 3. Although when I lose, if I'm completely outmatched, my team's out by turn 4.

Think Veya was referring to Mirrors specifically. Though considering Veya's already rank S in Mirrors and some other comments in the thread, PVE is probably a breeze too lol.

Yea. When you have 4 slot megucas with strong memorias, mirrors rarely last longer than 3 turns. Only times I can think of it's like 4-5 max when I went against 5 megucas, but they're not strong individually and my disc draws were crappy, so I couldn't kill them fast, but they don't deal much damage to me, so fight dragged (I know, to consider 4-5 turns dragging). I can most of the time successfully auto even hardest challenges, unless boss has some very specific gimmick that requires my input (because AI is dumb), so when I actually play myself and boss isn't incredibly challenging, fights should end within 10-15 turns top, so I assume Veya has similar results.

Good advice when you don't have any strong megucas, is cheesing it with evade memorias. That's how I did it just when I started. I won a lot of fights by pure luck thanks to this. I no longer use evade, because I prefer to equip stronger, purely damage oriented memorias and deal as much damage as soon as possible, but even now, whenever I encounter someone with evade, it's a major pain and can cost me a match. There are memorias that counter it, but they're relatively rare, especially in lower lvls of mirrors. Remember that all status ailments make your meguca unable to evade though.

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schuyguy posted:

Oh ye of little faith.

Ok, I'll admit that does sound somewhat convincing.

bubbleteabird posted:

Edit: Would a more apt manga title be: Between Suffering and Eros? Or Between Bad Cliffhangers and Suffering?

"Between Bad Cliffhangers and Suffering" sounds reasonable.

Between Bad Cliffhangers and Eros

I expect them to fuck a lot once all this drama is over stares

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schuyguy posted:

It's pretty obvious that the next chapter is going to start and they're going to be moving in with each other or something. She's just fucking with us. Again. Maybe Nika's dad decided that she'd move to live with him for the rest of high school, so they're finally getting back together after spending some time in a long-distance relationship.

Idk. When next to last page have them finally happy with thoughts like "It's fine. I won't let go of that hand again. As long as I won't let go of that hand, it'll be fine..." and then last page starts with clearly aged up character looking at photo of 2 of them thinking "That's what I thought." and follows it with "Back then...", all I can think about is that it means she's reminiscing on how their relationship ended and in next chapters we'll see flashbacks of how it happened.

I'll happily be proven wrong though.

I'm now actually kinda happy I didn't end up translating it myself, cos I'd probably want to drop it by this point.

EDIT/ Removed spoiler marks.

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WTF. You guys thought last cliffhanger was bad? Well, new one is on another whole level of terrible. I feel so stupid for hoping for them to just happily date now without more annoying drama. They just can't catch a break. Being lesbian is suffering.

EDIT/ Removed spoiler marks.

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Honestly, considering the amount of people who still misses "What's that manga called" thread, I'd say just put everything into 1 universal thread as you suggested. People who look for those first, will find those threads there anyway, and people who're going to miss them, will still miss them whatever they're sticky threads or not.

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takachi posted:

So where's the joke?

That's why Nya-chan called him psycho.

Also, I don't see how it represents anything about homosexuals, if anything it represents a male desire for sexual intercourse/masturbation, likely driven by high-level of androgens.

Except you're forgetting that homosexuals are often stereotyped as very sex driven and dangerous to be around, exactly because there's the assumption that all they can think about is fucking every person of the same gender they see and it takes all their effort to suppress those urges to avoid turning into uncontrollable rapists. Exactly how he's portrayed here. While men are often portrayed to always wanting/thinking about sex, they're never demonized to such degree and portrayed as if their simple existence is a danger.

We haven't seen Gin's friend from other sides much, so I have no idea how one can make a fair evaluation/judgement of his true character given such a narrow perspective.

And that's exactly the issue. He barely gets any spotlight/character and yet the one thing author goes out of their way to portray is how much he agonizes about not being able to fuck Gin. That's exactly portraying homosexuals as 1 dimensional stereotypes.

Are you saying all manga that you read portrays the LGBT characters as weirdos or terrible people and not the other way?

I never said so, but you need to be incredibly ignorant to think that it never was a common issue in the media. For very long time LGBT people were rarely portrayed in media and when they did, they were almost always portrayed as a villains. For the longest time, being gay/lesbian etc. was considered a villain trait, because only those characters exhibited those traits. It got better overtime, but tendency to portraying LGBT characters in negative light is still pretty common one. We barely have characters that have other role first and foremost and are LGBT second (it's just part of their identity). Most of the time, those characters are written as LGBT first and their being LGBT is entire focus on their character. I'd say it's a long way before LGBT characters are normalized in media as just people first.

Actually, why of all things do LGBT characters have to be portrayed as saints? That is plain, boring, cardboard, and unrealistic. Can't they just be portrayed as humans? With their positive and negative sides regardless of their sexuality and identity?

You're missing the point, since nobody even argued they're supposed to be only saints and you clung to it for some reason. Anyway, I actually share your perspective on that. I think LGBT characters should be portrayed both ways. The issue is, historically they were only portrayed in negative way for very long time, so now people try to overcorrect it by never portraying them in negative way at all. While getting more positive representation is a good thing, studios etc. who try to score on woke points, now pretty much mandates that you can't see LGBT characters doing anything considered bad, ever. So it's nice LGBT characters are not delegated to being bad guys by default anymore, they're only being portrayed in good light and any show that have LGBT character shown doing something bad is automatically criticized by people who lived through those dark times. So we have issue with this work exactly because it seems to be doing the same thing those old shows did, by portraying all LGBT people only in bad light.

plot devices driving the story, which does indeed end up being artificially exaggerated. And that is fine as it creates the situations in which the characters act to express some of their traits in front of the reader.

You say it's "only initial premise and way to get story going". I say "the fact you need to do it in order to get story going in the first place is the entire issue".

EDIT/ bubbleteabird My point exactly.

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Ugh...

takachi posted:

Oh come on, what makes you jump to this conclusion? As in, what makes you see Gin's friend as a psycho?

She was making a joke how the gay friend is in love with Gin and wants to fuck him and needs to struggle with his desires every night and only fapping to his friend can stop him from raping Gin. Representing homosexuals as people who struggle with their desires 24/7 and only think about sex isn't exactly very positive way to show them as people.

Is there some proper, saint, if you will, way of being interested by the LGBT theme?

"Saint" lol. How about not portraying them only as weirdos and terrible people for starters?

In fact, this manga feels a lot more realistic than many others in that respect.

I'm sorry, but since when getting almost raped and then saved by the girl so you'll only get blackmailed with photos about your rape, forced to dress as a girl when going to school and being told to make a guy fall in love with you, by lesbian that had bad experiences and now wants to get revenge on guy that stole girl she liked from her (I believe that was the deal with lesbian character) more realistic than many other stories? If that's the more realistic one, I'm afraid to read less realistic works...

Veya posted:

ideally you would want a Puella Combo on turn 1 and a Connect on turn 2 to clear the fight for max performance bonus of 1.5x, though taking it to turn 3 and getting two Connects off would also give you max performance(turn 3 with only 1 Connect gives a 1.4x bonus), but for Endless Mirrors, there is zero issue with critting the enemy to death and is in fact highly preferable if you can pull it off.

Oh thanks. I never knew how exactly performance bonus was calculated, so it's handy to know.

Veya posted:

Aimi, who didn't even quite make a wish, Kyubey appeared to her while she was in the middle of a daydream and she said something that could be interpreted as a wish

Aimi was actually one of the girls I originally thought about bringing up, since she wasn't even aware she was "signing" contract and all her wish was "I want to know if my crush loves me back", which is hardly something, you'd want to die over for, but I thought about it and in the end, she did desire being his girlfriend and spend all her energy worrying about how to confess to him, so if she were actually given a proper chance to make a wish, I bet she'd wish for something like "Make my confession to Hayato go well" and that's something she is very invested in. Seriously, if there ever existed a option to sue Kyuubey for breach of contract at all, she'd be the best example for it.

she is also a good example of Kyubey having terrible timing to match Momoko at least once, I suppose...

Actually that's not true. She thought she was daydreaming Kyuubey as well, so when he offered to fulfill her wish in exchange of becoming a magical girl, she immediately jumped at it without thinking and only after contract has been made, she realized, she in fact wasn't daydreaming and it was all happening. So from Kyuubey's perspective it looked like eager girl wanting to make a contract and from hers "wtf did just happen?". And if she didn't even realize she was making a wish and asked for something silly (which she did) even better for him. All he probably could think of at that moment was "It's free real estate" (or alternatively "Jackpot").

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riverFlower posted:

What would be examples of somebody without a wish like that? I mean all of the girls we see have contracted so there was some wish they made.

Kanoko - Wants to be fashion designer, but her only issue is that she feels guilty that her parents want her to take over family factory instead. And actually she doesn't mind taking it over later, she just want to be fashion designer now. So her brilliant strategy is asking Kyuubey for her parents to be healthy for next 30 years, so she doesn't need to worry about them stopping working and wanting her to take over and once 30 years ends and she had her fun with being fashion designer, she'll deal with the issue of factory when the time comes.
Momoko - She liked a guy and wanted to confess to him, but was afraid he'll reject her because of her boyish personality, so she wished for "courage", as soon as she made wish and went to him, she saw him being confessed to and agreeing (Momoko's terrible timing). Was a bit sad about it, but dealt with it.
Asuka - She assumed that her cousin won't be able to join police, because of his father's crimes, so she wished that he'll become a police officer.
Masara - She become magical girl out of boredom. You could argue she desired for any kind of change in her life. To experience anything that'll make her feel something.
Emily - I don't think we even learn why she become magical girl and based on her personality it might be, because she just felt like it and/or it seemed fun. I mean she is the one that told Rika about magical girls and suggested she just wish for her crush to love her back on the spot, so she definitely doesn't spend too much time thinking things through.
Akira - She becomes magical girl out of necessity, because she entered labyrinth by accident and had to become magical girl to defend herself and save people who were captured there.
Kanae - Her friend was caught as a hostage by gangster she messed with before, so in order to save her she made a hasty wish of "I wish the gang he's in didn't exist".
And Mami - she was in car accident and had to make a contract with Kyuubey to survive.

I wouldn't really call those "a wish that you would desperately fight for with all your heart". And that's only from megucas I personally own and read their stories. I admit I had few more in mind, but after thinking about it, while actual wishes they made weren't anything special, they did come from strong desire they had and I guess that's what ultimately matters. if given a chance, they'd probably make a more proper wishes.

Also something that might not be intuitive is that MR has a hard cap of 100% on dmg, meaning you can only stack effects of the same kind up to a 100%

Okay so I have no idea how the damage calculation formula works exactly, but 100% blast damage buff + 100% attack up buff = only 100% increase in damage, based on what you said? Stuff like this really would be nice to know.

As I said "meaning you can only stack effects of the same kind up to a 100%". So you can stack on 1 character up to 100% blast up, 100% accel up, 100% damage after charge up, 100% attack up, 100% damage up, 100% damage inflicted up (there was something special about those 2 effects, but I don't remember exactly), 100% magia up etc. So let's say you have 3 connects available, 2 gives you 70% blast up and 1 gives you 70% attack up. It's better to give 70% blast up and 70% attack up, even if you'd be doing blast chain, because if you'd give 2 times 70% blast instead, the buff would have been capped at 100% and so you'd lose 50% of damage. On that topic, don't remember how exactly that worked, but in MR you can't not deal dmg, so no matter how much someone debuffs you or how much defense they got, you'll never deal less than 5% of your total damage I believe.

Sakura Cartelet posted:

Also not mentioned by @Nevri, but evade chance does not stack either. Also both evade and crit chance did stack before the devs nerfed it due to evade making allies nearly unhittable

Oh I did not know that. I didn't even ever consider the possibility, probably since I don't think I ever had situation when I had 2 evades overlap.

and crit chance probably because it was too powerful in mirrors.

Maybe, but I think it's more because crits are very strong in general, even in PvE. Crit always doubles your entire damage and isn't capped, so it's very reliable and very strong source of DPS. I'm not sure how it works, but apparently you don't want to crit in mirros, because you get less points (?) and because basic strategy is bringing enemy's megucas down to low health first and then finishing them off next turn. You do it, because the more megucas enemy has, the more polluted their discs are and there's less chance they'll get puella combo that could devastated your team. While crits might be nice, they might actually screw you if you kill everyone outside of 1 last meguca and then she kills your entire time. Then again I guess if you can reach 100% crit chance, you could probably reliably kill entire enemy team with 1 meguca, so maybe it was nerf aimed at mirrors.

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I mean, you can just try finding it on other sites. I linked mangadex, because it's the only one we are allowed to...

Yup I found it on the one I use when mangadex fails me.

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Find and read this https://mangadex.org/title/17312/mahou-shoujo-tart-magica-the-legend-of-jeanne-d-arc

Malibu posted:

I’m sad to say it but I’ll be dropping this series. I reached out to the mangaka directly

Not to be rude, but what exactly you hoped to achieve by that?

Zexalfan posted:

unfortunate indeed, It's a really cute and enjoyable manga so hopefully either and official trqanslation or anime happen eventually then.

Or different group picks it up.

Have to wonder how much stuff here would have to stop their translations if everyone asked the authors in all cases

Outside of few outliers, all of it honestly. Scanlating is illegal after all.

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Veya posted:

It is something Kyubey themselves state

Oh, I really need to rewatch it properly one of those days, because it seems like I don't remember a lot of details.

Oh but it did, this is something I paid very close attention to before, when Kyoko asks.

Ok, I'll admit I was misremembering how exactly Kyuubey answered Kyouko's questions, so you're correct on that.

statistical impossibility

Conservapedia. That took me aback good few steps.

Oh, I wasn't meaning you in specific

Oh, ok x3

I was just having a thought in general while typing out the post, the fact that Kyubey always seem to be in the nick of time doesn't mean that Kyubey is able to get to every single girl in the planet who has ever had the potential to contract, and it could lead to us as the viewers thinking that he does because his positioning is always so convenient.

That's true. After all stories always focus around characters that matter the most or are the most interesting to be put into spotlight, so we're definitely not getting the whole picture.

This has always been how it is implied that it happened

Yea, I watched anime fully only once around time it premiered, so there's probably some stuff I missed/forgot about. I just always watched the episode with Homura's flashbacks as us simply seeing small parts from many different timelines and it was never meant to be put together into 3 cohesive ones.

or Rika & Ren's dual unit.

Right now my highest priorities are IroYachi and Rika x Ren. Also I'd want to roll for Rumor of Sakura, but I'm not sure I'll be able to afford it, after spending all my gems on Homura, since rate up wasn't kind to me. 4 spooks from 8 4* girls? 60% my ass...