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btw, roamsl.. I've been missing your comments for a while now.

I'll be in nora mode for a little, is it this time for sumin's bday? End of autumn?Last week sumin's bday was shown in gajis twitter. So seju might be out getting a present for sumin.. Hehehe

hehehe, you are joking, right? because Sumin's birthday is 12th of July.. so in reality TG weren't wrong.. but Manhwa's time, we are now in the first/second week of November. Seju's clothing bothers me the most!
she was wearing a high neck pullover in ch82 but this chapter she is waaaay out of her office time's dress code, her stomach and arms are all out while she is cold.. and yet sweats alot.. like really !! what's up with the clothing thing!


I have a slight guess that maybe, maybe.. Sumin won't chase after Sungji nor Seju would meet her outside.. but the three would meet at Seju's office. [ I guess Sumin calls would go unanswered so she would rather meet Sungji face to face, Seju's office.. and Sumin needs Seju to confirm her story about the missing pillow.. parallelism to ch55, and wow if Sumin meets the new team leader at the same day hehehe oh, that's a chapter !]

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mpgpeg, you know.. I want to comment on something, now we know that Seju's first time was in Sumin's birthday. anyways, Seju herself was in the beginning of her sexual life ( with Sumin barely sticking a finger in her).. do you expect that a man could have sex with her and she wouldn't notice or die of pain XDDD.. I mean mumbling .. but if that was the case, she has all the power to wipe him off the face of earth having Saehyun who knew about Sumin and Seju by intuition only. Also, do you think a bartender of a classy top notch bar would risk his job to sleep with a drunk customer? not only that, she is a freaking chaebol !! how reckless

I was working on the timeline once more, SejuX Sumin's first time didn't happen during the same year Sumin's parents died

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mpgpeg, first of all.. thanks for taking the time reading such half-assed explained comment XD.

Is the bartender the real reason Sumin and Seju can't be together?

No, as you stated before, it was their underlying issues.

not only that, but we agree that Seju is a daughter of a chaebol, their reputation is a huge deal. Take a look at this:
http://imgur.com/a/VvDmS

from there, you know that Seju's reasoning to Sumin's scarring was that her family were threatening them for having a homosexual relationship. It is shown that this kind of rumor was known at some level. You know why Seju accepted to see these blind dates ? TO PROTECT SUMIN !

why can't they be together, along side their issues (insecurities, trust.. etc) .. it's the BAEKS !. read the ending of ch27..
http://imgur.com/a/Dd3WL

they can't be together unless they leave the country. AND they won't leave the country unless they are together.
Now that her brothers sent her an assassin, who followed her from ch62 was not because what she said in ch71.. but maybe it's a more of reputation in a family that down looks at her. (this is a MAYBE.. I don't know)

Taking a wild, probably incorrect guess here... men?

CORRECT.. dammit, I like sharp people ! hehehe.. the conversation is interesting this way.

The main reason I'm holding back on accepting the hypothermia theory is... that it is kind of abstract for your average reader to understand.

hehe.. when was WDTFS ever directed to the average readers! the moment I saw ch50.. I was like, what do we have hereeee hehehe :P

anyways, they are good and well knowledgeable of these issues, for example the PTSD symptoms were slowly given to us from ch77 (the moment Sumin knocked the door and Seju was easily startled), through her eating disorder, mood swings in ch78, nightmares 79 ...etc until now. carefully putting things together. OMG, and Sumin's PTSD, and her coping mechanism (women and alcohol) does tell you that they know their stuff really well.. let alone the body language thing!

The bartender himself? I am not sure. It is noteworthy how Seju was affected by alcohol in chapter 84 though. It showed her low tolerance.

now this is tricky.. and depends on TG's mood for "breast feeding" XD.. because they already gave you multiple occasions where Sumin's assumption was just WRONG, and in this chapter Sumin was in a position where she was greatly misunderstood by Sungji but couldn't explain. Also, I don't know if TG would care to explain the obvious, since they already showed us in ch79, ch10 and all her blind dates that Seju dislikes men, period !.. they also explained Seju's weakness, not having any sorts medications at home and inability to protest on a kid like Sungji who excused herself inside Seju's apartment (and notice, Seju's driver DOESN'T drive her home ever (Think of why Sumin's assumption about Seju having guards in ch26 was wrong).. then again ch84.

it's really all about TG willingness to spoon feed AND how much shocking and twisting are they planing to show.

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Is the bartender the real reason Sumin and Seju can't be together?
I wonder! Specially when Seju explained it or let's say, TG spoon fed it in ch27. (That hospital scene and the whole chapter is really something)


Now, I thought like droppin this: I think ch9 restaurant scene between Seju and Sumin and again this chapter same restaurant scene should be read side by side.. it could tell a thing or two.
I was discussing this with Foxy lady.. what does Seju hates the most?.. you might want to check ch79 (when she went to invite Sungji for lunch) and again in ch10. Sumin DOES NOT know what Seju hates the most.. otherwise, she wouldn't have thought twice seeing what she saw in ch11.

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Jealousy is a big indicator for insecurities as well and she has shown a lot of that recently. Seju hasn't given Sumin much to be jealous about in their history.

mmhm, have you seen how Sumin reacted when she knew about the arranged marriage plans in ch33? Foxy lady suggests that this might had happened many times in the past. And I think maybe it happened even more times during college for example, males colleagues hitting on her.. but the main point about insecurity and jealousy is that the person would somewhat feel inadequate and this feeling would be inevitable dating someone like Seju.

Do you think Sumin will run after her?

I have reasons to say yes, and others to say no.
as for yes: parallelism to ch56, it's a logical reaction even.
as for no: probably she would be so coward to try explain herself and stutter her words once more, remember Sumin hanging up the phone call while she was in Japan ? ch67

I, somehow, want Seju to be the one meeting her on her way out or something.

Yes she does. Seju has been the passive character recently. She didn't even gloat when Sumin discovered the scarf.

ah, you know why? because Seju knows that the problem is not the scarf itself, ch82, but the fact that Sumin doesn't have trust in her. In that sense, the apology itself doesn't matter much giving the root of the issue.

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this chapter shows us a lot of Sumin's insecurities, she is dating Sungji and yet has all these ideas.. could you imagine how she was like dating Seju ?
also, from the past 2 chapters, we have seen Sumin being aware of her mistreatment to both girls http://imgur.com/a/D5Mfu
is Sumin now moving from feeling guilt to wanting to fix it?


this part actually cracked me up
http://imgur.com/a/RFpro
because Sumin agrees that it was tough to wait for Sungji when her inner thought says:"it wasn't tough at all"
hehehe..

It seems like these might play a role in her final choice.

I don't think it will be Sumin's move, but Sungji's.. remember that in Manhwa's time, it was only the other day when they had the whole birthday thing and the chasing after Seju.. all ch83,84 happened the other day, yesterday ch85,ch86. The amount of things that Sungji is witnessing and releasing are way too much in such a short amount of time
message for those who think that the pace is too slow XD
what I believe would happen is Sungji and Seju talking again very soon.
I am just amazed by Sumin's inability to improvise and excuse for the pillow absens (if it was me, I may say something like I am washing it or something XD)

all in all, here is some parallelism in this chapter and chapter 56. and probably ch9. (Seju and Sumin restaurant scene)


but have you noticed that for a while now, Seju just sees through Sumin easily !

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hlama

IF, it is a big if, the new team leader is indeed the bartender, then the shoulder we saw when Seju was discussing the candidates (forgot which chapter) probably belonged to the bartender instead of the assassin.

I don't see why this should be conditioned by that.. XD

I am surprised that people are not cheering for sungji. I remember awhile back, people were complaining that sungji had no emotion and was too easy on sumin. She slammed the door this chapter, ladies.

I am personally not in a position where my cheer for Sungji is appreciated, specially in this particular occasion XD

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Ok. Just be careful. You probably won't but i feel that if the ending doesn't go with SejuxSumin you might take a bit of a hit.

I am prepared XD

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http://imgur.com/a/ihYph
"If you really love someone as much as Seju claims to then all you want is for this person to be happy."

A good excuse for a loser to give up on someone. lol

sia ue, people are used to microwave food so much that they started to think that relationships could be treated the same XD

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Nora89
I'm just partly teasing you. Sorry

it's okay.. hehehe.. I've been put in a defensive situation for a while now, I didn't get mad.. just defensive that my sense of humor didn't catch up

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Es0tric

But how do you know that that how you think this Manhwa is built is not based on your bias... ; )

because I've been invested in this manhwa connecting dots with dots all this time to realise the very fine details of it. How do you think I calculated Seju's birthday in page 267! They even posted Saehyun arrival date note so we could have an idea of the date in ch35, Dawoon would tell you "Friday night" in ch64, and Sumin would tell you "thank God, tomorrow is Sunday" in ch71 so you know that Sumin traveled a week from a Sat to sat. This is one of the clear examples that paying attention to details paid off. We already discussed every point and every hypothesis and how they are shown through panels, I am confident enough to say that I can back up whatever I write unless I leave a note on it.

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renee

you aren't a bad person for just misunderstanding a hypothesis XD.. we still don't know what team Gaji have in mind.. we can only speculate.

btw, I might be loving Seju's character a bit too much, but the ending I have in mind is mostly derived from how this Manhwa was built and where it's shown to be heading to not my bias itself XD

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renee

my bad T.T seems like i have to re-read from the first chap bc there's so much things twisted in my head lmao. thank you for enlighten me Nora89

anytime.. however, click here for a post you might find interesting

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renee, welcome. I suggest you read about how Hypothermia is treated when there is no available medication around (ch53 reference) and the bartender could not possibly know where the extra blankets were.
By now you already know Seju's alcohol tolerance (ch54 drunk from wine, ch85 also easily drunk and didn't eat well). How about Whisky on an empty stomach with low alcohol tolerance !

im highkey want dawoon as the new team leader since she is well-educated (i remember she went overseas to continue her studies) she seems capable to be the candidate(?)

but you realised that Dawoon is in Sungji's age with no experience to hold such a position.. oh wait, Dawoon studied culinary in France.. I think Seju is cooking something XDDDD

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Now now.. thinking about what Seju said in ch62, she asked for only female applicants but that doesn't mean she didn't meet any males who were sent to her.

keeping the gender veiled, means that we know this person and he/she would play a significant role in the end. Who this person could possibly be ?

  • Ms. Choi: she is a president of another company, and Sungji saw her before in Jeju island. Excluded
  • Sangmi (the Lawyer), not possible giving her qualification Excluded
  • Nammi, she is a model director, Sungji would call her by her name and title, also her specialisation is different. Excluded

Now, there is a person whom Seju hates but, if the theory of Seju suffering a Hypothermia after drinking in ch10 is true, then Seju does owe this person enough to hire him regardless. He could've been a part time working student at the time.

If this is true.. my God, alot will be happening, but at least many loose ends will be tightened.

what about Seju's reaction to Sumin finding out, you should know this from past chapter Seju's mindset and this chapter's reaction to Sumin's apology about the scarf.


yoonie and I were discussing earlier Seju's whereabouts.. from her clothing (a sleeveless cropped shirt) is so casual for her normal office appearance. It suggests that Seju didn't go to work that day.. and also, where was she at night? it seems like she was not home when Sungji arrived given Sumin's low measures towards having sex with Sungji.


also, wouldn't it be nice if Seju was the one to meet Sungji out, and the two have a little talk.. given that Sumin isn't the type to give answers.. and I believe Sungji has all the right questions to ask by now. At the same time tho, it would be so weird if Sumin didn't run after Sungji when the later saw Sumin excessively worried and running after Seju in ch83.
Good God, Sungji at least knows now that Sumin lied to her in ch77.

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I was actually writing a cryptic comment about it .. !!

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THE BARTENDER. Dun dun duuuunnn. Just kidding. Their descriptions make team leader seem like a nami-ish gal, but then nami will never work until late night.... Too late for a cool new character imo.

dammit dammit !! as you freaking read my mind !!! what the hell!
I even talked about this to yoonie and orange just a while ago !!

Dammit !!XDDDD

last edited at Jul 18, 2017 2:18PM

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hlama

  • The type Seju hates.... a gemini TT____TT

hahahahahah.. I know what've done here. XDDD

I will comment on the possible character that could be the new Team Leader

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Es0teric
sorry I was a bit jumpy, didn't notice "maybe".

I should really be sleeping but all the interesting discussions take place while i do.

it's going to be a while, maybe an hour till the new chapter is translated.

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Methetruth

Thank you for fixing my mistake :)
I'm glad that the story still releases the day it supposed to( sorry for my bad english).

your english isn't bad.. it's not my first language either.. I just wanted to make sure no one panics XD

Es0teric

Pretty dramatic chapter. Maybe things are going to go the way you say it will. I try not to bump up peoples egos generally but maybe I'll make an exception for once ; )

I don't know yet.. all I know is the person who expected that Sungji will notice the missing pillow was a genius XD

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that was a golden prediction then XD

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who said before that Sumin must not forget the pillow in Seju's room ? hehehe because Sumin DID .. and Sungji KNEW IT hehehehehahhahahah

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heheheh.. nice chapter XD

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I really wanted to insult but it is never my nature to, directly or indirectly.

I'll be doing the dirty job I suppose then XD.. someone has to do it.

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Hahahaha.. XD.. I saw this comment and I couldn't stop myself really hahah.. btw, this person doesn't consider what was going on in ch55 as a real cheating heheh.. hetrosexuals belittle fingering so badly it's funny XDDD..

http://imgur.com/a/ihYph

but then following their logic, Sungji overreacted.. since Sumin was only getting fingered.. and Seju didn't do anything wrong.. she was just fingering the poor girl XD.. it's NOT CHEATING I tell ya :P

didn't I say that those people's arguments fall by their own logic not mine !