Lilliwyt posted:

Best genderbend isekai with game elements

Only thing original is the gendebend.

Implying there weren't any gender bender isekais before.

You clearly didn't see Homura's episode story.

SuperText posted:

Except that's not Homura.

People are defined by their experiences and their environment; Homura and Kyouko would be very different without their personal tragedies, but that doesn't make one version less real than the other.

I didn't say she isn't real. I said she's different character. And they both had the same tragedy, but she made different choice than OG Homura given the same circumstances, making her different character.

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riverFlower posted:

Which makes seeing her actually getting along with people in MR and being able to care so much more heart warming.

Except that's not Homura. That's one of issues I have with the lazy justification for story. We're seeing different universe than the one from OG anime, so the Homura, Madoka, Sayaka, Mami and Kyouko are different character. They're not the characters we know, and as far as we know, they might be separate people with different personalities etc. In fact, I kinda feel like writers don't understand OG story at all, because in her episode story Coolmura is incredibly OOC. She can't comprehend why Homura from this universe would ever bother helping or doing anything for someone else than Madoka and she thinks befriending people and trying to act as a team is a waste of time. She thinks exactly how people who think Homura is a bad person would write her. Honestly the revelation we're not following the universe we know and those are separate characters that actually made different choices than OG cast in OG universe, kinda turned me off to them and now I can't really invest in them as much. So Homura you see in MR is not OG Homura and she will never become Coolmura, because they're separate characters that thinks differently.

A separate rant, I forget where I've seen people say that MR is less "good" than PMMM because the stakes aren't as high in terms of max achievable despair

Everywhere, because that's complaint that (almost) everyone who was a fan of OG series made. That the biggest strength of OG was the fact everyone dies and that no one was safe. And in general how heavy, dark and psychological OG series was. Which is true, but MR doesn't even try to do that and instead tries to go for something different, which imo executes on pretty well. Simply instead of a full on tragedy, MR is more of a drama.

, but I always thought that was one of MR's strengths.

What I was pointing out is that we can actually see OG team working together and Madoka as a proper magical girl, since thanks to how OG series works, we never actually saw that (though because of how little we actually see them and how little they contribute, it kinda loses its impact). But once you realize they're actually different characters it does take away from it. Also I like the contrast they're going for compare to OG series, though from what I knew about ending, I thought they'll go about it a bit differently, but now that I read up to chapter 9 and I can't anymore guess how exactly they'll wrap it all up, I'm not sure what exactly my thoughts on it are, but I guess I still like the idea. Pretty much OG series focused with how Homura tries to defeat Walpurgisnacht solo, while MR is all about bonds, connections and teamwork so at the end all Kamihama girls join forces to defeat it, so it make you feel like all Homura had to do was ask others for help, but still I kinda like the implication that we can overcome everything together. It gives different feel than OG, while being just as hopeful as it.

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Oh no, I meant people who disagreed with me neither tried to disprove my points nor really address them. I was happy you agreed with me, so I wasn't talking about you.

We already had that discussion and my arguments were completely ignored, so I'm not bothering to repeat myself, especially now that it seems like my understanding of story was always flawed to begin with, because I thought Homura tried to defeat Walpurgisnacht together with Madoka many times before she went solo, proving that she initially did try to save everyone. 1 thing thought that still should be true, everything that Homura says out-load and not think can't be taken at a face value, otherwise we'd be supposed to take all the times that Homura is cold and mean towards Madoka as what she truly feels as well? Homura is playing a character which after so much time become kinda part of her true self (Becoming the Mask), but when she breaks down and tells true to Madoka, those are her true feelings.

As for Sayaka, she's a "ally of justice" kind of person, so even if she didn't fall into despair, she's the kind of selfless hero that would jump head first into danger to protect others without considering the risk, so I can see how that could lead to her overestimating herself and getting killed regardless of Homura's interference.

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https://youtu.be/HEXWRTEbj1I

Sakura Cartelet posted:

On the the issues of wishes has it ever been said whether or not reviving dead people is possible? If so why didn't Homura simply wish to revive Madoka instead of what happened in the original series?

Funny you ask, because Seika's wish was exactly to revive Leila after she was forced to commit suicide by a witch. Something people tend to forget is that entire Mitakihara gets destroyed and presumably all, or at least, most people in the city gets wiped out as well. So if Homura simply asked to revive Madoka, there wouldn't be really much meaning in it and Madoka's family probably would be dead as well. Also Homura's wish has a very important, personal meaning. She pretty much felt helpless and that she had to be protected entire time (especially if you add to it the whole being sick thing) and couldn't do anything on her own, so she wanted to changed and become person who not only doesn't need protection, but can also protect others, especially people she cares about.

EDIT/ Lol I forgot to send message and just left it waiting like that xD

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cecile posted:

Liz exploits Maki, but that seems to be just a part of their slave play. BDSM undertones are all over this story. And it's consensual as far as we can tell.

There's difference between BDSM dynamic/"slave" live and abusive relationship/being a shitty girlfriend/person. I'd argue most of Liz antics fall into latter category and Maki willingness to try BDSM doesn't give her license for doing anything she feels like. Also important thing to remember about contracts like that is that they're not legally binding in any way, shape or form and are more of a way for both parties to set on concrete rules and be able to recheck and revisit it every time they want. If someone actually forces you to sing something that could be taken to court cough 50 shades cough then it should be your biggest red flag to turn back, run and never look back.

cecile posted:

Also, you might wanna give Kodama Naoko a miss too.

Yes. Because she never, writes anything that's good or fluffy (and honestly most of her one-shots are fine). As was said many times. She can write happy, fluffy stories. She just isn't interested in doing so most of the time.

Lilliwyt posted:

Is it common to see lesbians who are still hung up by their ex-partner?

I mean, that depend on how you break up with your ex. Also that's something that doesn't concern specifically lesbians. Some persons still hang up with her exs if they didn't break up on bad terms.

I think Terry means more specifically still not being over your past lover, but yes, it's not something exclusive to lesbians, but more depends on the kind of person you are and how exactly you broke up. Especially if you were deeply in love or together for a long time, it can take a long time to stop caring for other person and you might even never really get over your love for them.

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Yes, everything that's out from Aoi-chan is already translated. We can only hope for continuation or reboot in different magazine, but considering she just did it for different manga, it's very unlikely she'll do it anytime soon.

axolawltl posted:

you can hate something without being a sarcastic nut about it

Thanks! I worked really hard on it! I'm glad you liked it ;3 You even made account just to tell me that!

Probably because of the title and I just reported it like 5 minutes ago.

I know it's her first work, because people already mentioned that and explained that's most likely reason, she seems to not know what she's doing.

EDIT/ I'm sorry. It's a perfectly good and well written realistic portray of lesbians and their relationships. We should want more works like that to be created, because that's exactly the kind of representation we're sorely lacking in current media.

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kilometres posted:

y i k e s , what is with the hostility towards momono. damn

Not towards Momono, towards the story. And she doesn't write it anyway, she only does art.

Yes Yandere is universal term, regardless of gender.

Such nuanced and realistic portray of gay men stares

She was like that before she become meguca though. And I don't think it's autism, but she just thinks in very unique ways. During her event it was clearly shown she's aware people consider her weird and make fun of her, but that's just who she is and she can't or don't want to change it. People laughing at her still hurt her feelings though. Then again I have 0 knowledge and 0 experience with autistic people, so all of it might still apply to them (ok daughter of my cousin is autistic, but I saw her like twice and didn't really try to interact with her, also she's on extreme end of the spectrum).

Veya posted:

the fights aren't hard enough to make Lockdown memes a necessity, but they still immunized most bosses to it for almost no reason.

To make them "harder" and not allowing you to cheese them. They only started making bosses immune, because they didn't like people abusing those effects in the first place. And well many people who don't have so many strong megucas as us often do rely on those strategies to win harder challenges.

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Exactly. They made DoTs effect not suck by making them scale with % of max health and then they made them suck by giving them hard cap on just 10k. That's usually less than normal attacks. But of course still high enough that when you are hit by it, it can easily kill your strongest megucas. Good thing status aliments have other good effects outside of just damage, but still it makes any strategy around applying them not viable.

EDIT/ Not uncapped, but at least let it deal damage that actually matters?

And the same is true for other stuff. They gave some connects strong effects like stun or charm and people used it to lock enemies? They give harder bosses immunity to status aliments, rendering those strategies useless. You can stack def buffs or use evade? Give enemy ignore armor or evade. If you thought those effects will be a problem or can be exploited, don't add them into game in the first place or don't make them that strong? It's seriously annoying that instead of making challenges where you really need to think it through and come up with strategy to win, they instead just force you to throw the strongest units at it and rely on blind luck. Probably my least favorite kind of boss fights are the ones with enemies that use that "..." buff to give themselves all possible buffs, and one shots any of your megucas from full health, because this one isn't about strategy anymore. It's purely about just rushing to deal damage and hoping to kill boss before it kills all your 5 megucas and you can't do anything to stop it. At first it did it every 3 turns, recently they started to do it ever 2 turns. Can't wait when there will be version which does it every turn. TL:DR is I wish challenges were more about fun than frustration. If I can make strategy where I can consistently keep my def high so enemy deals little damage to me or I can reliably use 1 meguca to tank for me, instead of rendering those strategies useless, by giving enemies counters to them, I should be rewarded for pulling them off.

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Second attempt at EX3. Went with support Tart, Mami and Madoka. Didn't go exactly as planned but once Mami was alone, Kirika and Kanoko were low enough that she managed to finish them off.

EX4 Went with support Madokami, Homura and Madoka. Homura's magia took like 3/4 of boss health. I was turn from killing it and Homura had like half health. Didn't have any of her discs, but Madokami had connect, only accel disc though. So I think, good I'll cast it on Homura to make sure she'll survive to next turn to finish boss off. Then of course first time in the fight, boss pulls remove buffs out from its ass and kills Homura. It was the first time ever where I'd actually benefit from survive part of Madokami's connect. So fucking cheap. I hate that gacha games can't be arsed to balance their games and design actually challenging fights without relying on broken gimmicks. I still won, but it felt really cheap.

EX5 Tried with support Madokami, Homura and Kokoro tanking, but it didn't go as well as I thought it will. I did kill Sayuki and Ria, so it wasn't terrible. Need to rethink my approach.

That's where the art for 3 star memoria from Homura's banner comes from. Memoria itself isn't that good, but I left 1 max LB copy as memento, because it's gay.

I know few with dads, but single mom doesn't come to mind...

Ok thanks, that should be enough for me.

Veya posted:

I always preferred "Tart" because it is far more unique, Japan has a... thing about Jeanne d'Arc, a lot of gachas have some version of Jeanne, plus there are benefits to the name being obscure, as it allows you to not immediately associate her with the historical figure and rather her be her own character a little more.

Yea, Tart has better ring to it too.

Have you seen the end of OG Homura's event? the very last scene takes on such an unambiguously romantic tone, specially with the CG setting up the atmosphere, that you would have to be blind or in denial to see it as anything but...

Sniff Such good friends!

Honestly of the first 4 only 3 was tricky for me, specifically because of Kirika, and then 5 takes this huge step up in difficulty, with the enemies being far beefier and constantly spamming buffs... seriously, letting any of them use Magia even once is a death sentence because they buff up so much before letting it off...

I have a idea how to tackle 5th based on video, I feel like 3 isn't anything special, I just picked wrong girls for the job, but we'll see once I try it again.

Oh hey, I got it this time!

https://youtu.be/79DijItQXMM

Holy fuck! I can't believe we actually got it published here! And they even labeled it as shoujo ai. I know, I know. We apparently still use it.

I tried checking it and glanced over first 30 minutes without any yuri hints and in fact most of that time is spend on main het couple, so if I'm going to watch that movie for real I need something concrete.

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