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joined Dec 9, 2014

Oops yeah. Lol it totally seems like pajamas xD

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Also I feel like the red string Sumin was making the scar of symbolizes fate with the person she would give it to.

Aka Sungji? =)))), that's clearly for Sungji =)))))

maybe not

Nah I meant Sungji lol. Com on guys, they even got matching pajamas... This is storytelling using symbols

last edited at May 8, 2017 1:27PM

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Also I feel like the red string Sumin was making the scar of symbolizes fate with the person she would give it to.

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I'm telling ya, there will be one heck of drama next chap when they go home and have sex or wtv =))), Seju is there anyway

yeah! why did not they go to a hotel or something XD

Cause Sungji wants to rub it on Seju's face =)))))

Do we think they'll go as far as to have sex in THAT house?

Come on...

I think they will, but maybe mask it behind something like Seju is in a completely different room and has no idea what they're doing lol

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Remember guys; end couple Sumin and Sungji. Story has to be developed around them now.
Maybe the scarf thing also symbolizes how Sumin is giving her affection to Sungji now. Something like she passes that place to Sungji, compared to how Seju had giver her that in the past. They are trying to make a parallel

last edited at May 8, 2017 10:44AM

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joined Dec 9, 2014

I think the idea of love is one of those things scientists can't completely explain and all we have to go by is our own experiences. I don't feel any love for my first partner of 3.5 years. I felt nothing six months later when they wanted to get back with me either. That was 10 years ago now.

But that's your own experience. There are couples that stay together for all of their lives.

I mm quite pragmatic and wouldn't call myself romantic either. But even if sometimes you can't feel it, it doesn't mean others can't.

Who knows, maybe from a scientific pov, maybe love is a mechanism that helps people survive. Since they stay close to one person nd they help each other compared to being alone.
There is also an explanation of what happens in the brain chemistry during love.
But then again, love might be a spiritual thing instead of science.

last edited at May 8, 2017 8:37AM

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I don't believe that love is eternal, i think that's just romantic idealism.

I disagree.

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^goodnight xD

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That's because their relationship is healthy and healing, while SejuxSumin is toxic.

but is it ? (in 100 days you get cheating and uncertainty, and communication issues )

I was being sarcastic lol. Because apparently Seju and Sumin relationship is beyond any fixing, but somehow when the same thing happened with Sungji it didn't have a big impact at all.
I'm still jot convinced though, that even if they end manhwa with SungjixSumin together it means that they're gonna be together for the rest of their lives too.

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But really, Nora, just wow, it's only a month, they already have sex, then Sumin said I love you in a very emotional way, then cried cause of happiness. 1 month for all that :)))))), cant believe a thing happened for 10 years could solve for just...a month, cant believe Seju's years of love couldnt beat that. Wow, just wow, I'm totally speechless.

That's because their relationship is healthy and healing, while SejuxSumin is toxic.

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You're forgetting about the fact that Seju said she wants Sumin to hate her, she wanted her broken. More and more. The worse decision she made, the more Sumin suffered.

I don't remember this. Ony thing I remember was Seju wanting Sumin's relationships to fail, so Sumin would go back to her. But besides that, yeah Seju is certainly no angel. She has done her share of bad deeds too regarding Sumin.

As for the ending,I always felt like this story was focusing too much on Seju for Sumin x Sungji shake. If there is a weird twist and Sumin actually ends up with Seju in the end, like people have said here before, it will certainly make a very big impact. But it is also quite a big of a risk.

Some people believe this is a toxic relationship that can't be fixed, but if they ended up together and managed to make it work, then it would be quite a big of a deal. It would be that they are soulmates and love can even beat all of this.

As for Sungji being bi, I'm quite sure Sumin was the person she's had sex with lol. I hope her role in the last chapters becomes more active and brings something to the plot that is going on as well. So far with Seju moving on in Sumin's house, she was only cuddly and a bit of worried.

last edited at May 4, 2017 4:23PM

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They're def gonna take two chapters of Sumin x Sungji having sex for the grand finale.
So subtract these from the plot too lol.

at this rate, Sumin is going to impregnate Sungji :P

No this really makes no sense...
it will be Sungji impregnating her as a plot twist. The hints are already here, since Sungji is starting to top Sumin lately!

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They're def gonna take two chapters of Sumin x Sungji having sex for the grand finale.
So subtract these from the plot too lol.

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Sorry but your opinion doesn't make sense to me still...lol And it's kinda pointless to force anything to you since you're just that closed

But the ending is already near and it's cornered to blonde team so.... happy for you

It's pointless to force something because you are not supposed to force something down to anyone lol.
We are just discussing and everyone brings points to back up their opinions. It's not being closed, it's seeing things from different perspective.
And the fact that teamblonde is winning team doesn't mean everyone has to see things through their perspective.

last edited at May 3, 2017 1:57PM

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When Lezhin did their "who's you favorite lesbian couple" contest for their man was, they had Sumin x Sungji contesting for wdtfs.
Which says a lot imo, since it shows who they are promoting as the main couple for these series.

I know if someone likes a particular character more, maybe we tend to see the story from this character's perspective. But this is not always the reality.

And since it seems they are promoting Suminx Sungji, it will only make sense that the last chapters will be centered around them more.
Seju spinoff also gives me this impression too. It makes more sense to give her a spinoff because they need to focus more on Sungji in the end.

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Lol I really don't think it would change those peoples opinions who are strongly anti Seju. They would find something different to hate her for.

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Well if you really stretch it, it is not impossible. But we have to remember the narrative.
If it would play a more important role in the future besides giving an explanation of why they broke up on the first place, don't you think it would be hinted more during all these chapters?
Because there is no mention of it at all throughout the story.

Seju is just there to prolong the story imo. There are only six chapters left, and there is still a lot more to cover besides Seju.
There is still development for Sungji, and what will happen with Seju's family, the assasin and the new Team Leader.

last edited at May 3, 2017 1:29PM

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Seju called Sumin's name because she was the person she loved and was used to sleep next to. But this doesn't mean that when she was drunk she didn't sleep with that guy.
If she was sober and not in a bad emotional state she wouldn't do it.
But again, Sumin said that there are bodyguards outside Seju's house and they wouldn't allow that guy to enter if Seju didn't give permission too.
If that guy wanted to rape her, wouldn't it make sense to get her into his place or in some hotel?
He didn't know Seju, nor where she lived. So it was Seju who told him where she lives. If she was completely unconscious she wouldn't be able to give him directions for her house.
Seju has being trying to get back with Sumin for ten years. She even did that incident with Resheads husband. Also she is trying to push Sungji away now too.
So if she was really raped, it makes no sense of why she wouldn't try to bring more evidence for it to Sumin.
Instead of that, she only tried to get Sumin's forgiveness. If she didn't cheat she would be trying to bring her facts, not forgiveness.

But I wanna ask this again. Why does that incident even matter at this point. Even if it really was rape, which really doesn't seem the case at all, at this point it's ten years after.
Their relationship wasn't bad only because of that. Besides Sumin doesn't want to go back to her now. Even if this wasn't really cheating. She also has Sungji.

last edited at May 3, 2017 1:10PM

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Well she was definitely drunk when she slept with him, so it's not exactly consensus anyway.
Even though this sucks, I really don't think this incident matters now. It just only makes Seju an even more tragic character.
But, on the other hand, when Sumin walked in on them, the bartender had his arms around Seju and Seju was awake and didn't seem to struggle to get out of his grip.
So I definitely believe it was a mistake of her part, but not rape.

Their relationship has suffers through many other points though. So this incident wouldn't change anything regarding her and Sumin relationship.
Maybe it would help Sumin go more easy on Seju, but she is already doing that. Besides, she has Sungji now too, which is what matters more anyway.

last edited at May 3, 2017 12:44PM

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^ I believe Izz makes a pont that Sumin wants to buy the house because she is not attached to Seju and doesn't care that it is hers. Unlike her parents' house that she would be unable to live, since she was attached to them and it would bring back lots of emotions.

At this point I'm not sure if this really has a deeper meaning.
I don't think Sumin will ever completely get over Seju, but at this point this is a step to move on form her. She doesn't care that Seju bought her this house. She just doesn't want to feel like she owes her anything.

Hah I just want this story to end already lol.

last edited at May 2, 2017 6:38PM

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I don't think we can blame Sumin for Seju being dependent on her. Yes she could have cut all ties with her completely, so Seju would stop having her hopes up.
But on the other hand Seju is an adult and responsible for her own actions. Blaming Sumin for this is like saying it was Seju's fault when Sumin cheated. Of course Seju provoked her a lot but it was her own responsibility because she was the one in a relationship. Unless of course she was forced.

Seju didn't show any sign of wanting to get over Sumin. Now she might be unable because of the ptsd, but in the past when she was younger and healthier she didn't even try.
And that's the worst part of this story. That the author is making Seju unwilling to move on.
At this point, they gain nothing from this characterization. They only waste Seju's character and disappoint the people who like her.

Before the assasin attack, there was still room to briefly introduce a new character for Seju and start the moving on process. But now they've made it worse, and there are even less chapters left.
This narrative would make more sense if they actually planned for a twist and have Sumin x Seju endcouple.
But now they add a character for people to empathize with, so they turn her into a chapter filler.

last edited at May 1, 2017 12:36PM

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I think that Seju needs Sumin more than Sungji. I'm not saying this means they should be back together. But I wanted to note that people keep saying how Sungji did everything right, and that's the reason she should have Sumin.

As for Seju being a leech, well. I can't disagree on that, because it is kinda true. But there is a reason why she is like that.
On the other hand, I am unable to understand how Sungji seemed to trust Sumin so easily after the cheating. And when Sumin was cheated, she never forgot Seju.
It feels like I'm reading the story in parallel universe when Sumin was more open to Sungji and didn't cheat. I mean look at that scene when Seju first comes to Sumin's house.
Sungji gets inside the house and jumps right on Sumin with a big smile. I find this weird tbh. It seems like she is not even wary of Sumin at all, after all those lies.

Their relationship doesn't seem completely healthy either. Sumin may be trying, buy I have this feeling that she would betray Sungji again in the future somehow. It seems like she is trying to make everything right in theory, but in practice it is different.

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I would like to see the ending that probably Seju end up losing her memory and moved on with her life happily.
While Suimin regret her lose for Seju wahaha.. kidding.. that's impossible but ya hope the ending is satisfying for 3 of the character.

I've never thought about Seju losing her memories. Well at this point this would be the best scenario for her. Since it is impossible to get over Sumin.
Well I'd like if Sumin misses her at some point but its too late by then lol. It would be fair.

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We might go analyzing the story here, or even overanalyzing it but remember that the popular opinion is different.
Yuri readers, well romance readers in general, want the cute and easy choice. They want to read "satisfying" stories to fill their needs too.
Also quite lot of them tend to think things as black or white. Which I'm not saying is a bad thing of course. It's a preference.
Sungji was introduced as the main love interest in the beginning. She is the clearly nice person, fit to be the protagonist that people should root for.
Then it comes Seju trying to separate the main couple, also doing some questionable or clearly wrong things to the main couple, as well as giving an impure vibe. She is automatically wrong and the antagonist.

So after that, a lot of the readers have already made up their mind of who they are supposed to root for.

last edited at May 1, 2017 7:51AM

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I agree with yoonie0104. Healing is an active action, not passive. Seems like Sungji was just there in the right time and right place.
Because she didn't even try to talk about it with Sumin. She didn't even say that she will try to be nice and show her that there is a different, healthier type of relationship. Her actions and character are important, but for a protagonist she should of had a more active role in this process. Not just changing things because she simply exists.