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The fiancee must be a ghost, 20 chapters and nowhere to be found. Yuna does not sound too excited about him. Maybe Yuna is a lesbian after all and marry a man just to have a sperm donor, plus society's approval. This story can easily have a biphobia subplot. Yuna dumping Kiku for a man.
2 more to go.

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

This episode is epic.

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

I was not discrediting the translator's work, in fact, I was relieved that my own reading directly from the raw matches what the translator's understanding. I worked quite a few years in the translation software business, so off all people I should know the problem of machine translation. Even in English, a "lover" can be considered a mistress depending on the context, especially if the person is male.
I simply cannot see how Yuni X Nanase can continue further. Maybe Yuki can be a catalyst again to destroy that relationship so that we will have Yuni X Fuuko (My "ship") instead. I cannot wait for the next issue (May/March) and I wonder what Sensei will come out with. She is very good at resolving and writing the love triangle.

conradin
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joined Mar 18, 2023

I never thought about jealousy can be a yardstick for sexual orientation. Interesting theme.

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

I am quite amazed about how quick Yuni's mom has caught on. The translation in the panel of p.18 or 188 raw, plus my own understanding are
Yuni's mom: "Your girlfriend did" (Kanojiuka?) Girlfriend?
Yuni: "......"(......) ......
Yuni "Nah, someone else"(Uun Chiu) Wrong
Yuni's mom "What was that pause just now?"(Nani ima no ma) What was that pause?
Yuni "Huh? I didn't..."(Ha? Betsu ni) Huh? Nothing.
Yuni's mom "Eh? Two timing?"(Aijin) Lover?
Yuni "Phrasing!" (iikata) Way to say it.

愛人 isn't a generic lover here. It's specifically in the meaning of mistress, or, if you want "the person I love sexually as opposed to the person I'm married to/in an official relationship with".

If she meant a "lover" it would be 恋人 (the one you love)

Actually, my first impression is indeed "mistress", aijin is definitely physical. I did not use AI, nor know how to.

Yes, Aijin and Koibito have huge differences. The fact that her mom chooses aijin means she knows koibito is the same person as the "kanojou". Consider what sort of job she has, Yuni's mom definitely knows something is up even with that slight pause yuni gives out. I am sure lots of her customers have pauses when asked if they were married....

In any case, my own understanding from reading the raw ends up almost the same as your interpretation, that is important because to me scanlation is like psuedo-canon,in fact a lot of times it is better than official translation. So thank you for the hard work so that I know my understanding is correct as opposed to off the mark.

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342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

I am quite amazed about how quick Yuni's mom has caught on. The translation in the panel of p.18 or 188 raw, plus my own understanding are
Yuni's mom: "Your girlfriend did" (Kanojiuka?) Girlfriend?
Yuni: "......"(......) ......
Yuni "Nah, someone else"(Uun Chiu) Wrong
Yuni's mom "What was that pause just now?"(Nani ima no ma) What was that pause?
Yuni "Huh? I didn't..."(Ha? Betsu ni) Huh? Nothing.
Yuni's mom "Eh? Two timing?"(Aijin) Lover?
Yuni "Phrasing!" (iikata) Way to say it.

Must be intuition or personal experience, using both words girlfriend and lover in a conversation with her daughter, assuming that she has both. However she does not seem to imply Yuni is two timing (does something wrong).

last edited at Feb 20, 2024 10:28AM

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

^
Thank you for the hard work,
I just am not sure if indeed
Does Yuni's mom really ask three times in the order of "Boyfriend?" "Girlfriend?" "Lover?". That means she is amazing and totally progressive in her views

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Now that we are on chapter 23, I have a question...
Did Yuni's mom ask Yuni whether she has a "girlfriend" or "lover" p187-189 after Yuni says she does not have a boyfriend?

After revealing Yuni's domestic life, I actually like her a lot more now.

last edited at Feb 17, 2024 11:38PM

conradin
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joined Mar 18, 2023

Sweet little gem. It is not a requirement to have everything resolved. Here you can keep reading back and forth and come to your own conclusion, Heck, it is possible that both the artist friend and the coffee house owner are straight.

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Best "epilogue".

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Koto should have said "Aya looks young but she is actually my girlfriend," Nobody really cared and just assumed it is platonic (no sex). The unfortunate side is that unlike a heterosexual couple, lesbian couple does not have the legal age loop hole. The loop hole being a grown man can have sex with his teenage fiancee, with the law implying that the two people are planning to get married, with proof (such as a marriage contract). But since same sex couple cannot get married, that loophole does not work.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

^
The Yuuna and Sena relationship will be explained in the next chapter. After that, will be the final chapter (21), and the extra ("22").

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joined Mar 18, 2023

Three more to go. Ready for sugar overload!

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

biphobia

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Yuni was making Yuki's best friend miserable and admitted she was cheating on her. Plus she called Yuki fucking ugly and jumped her.

The original word is "ぶす" Busu. There is no perfect, one word to one word translation for it. It means "Ugly Woman". So the translator did an exception job to translate it to "fugly". The closest words to Busu are: "Hag", but usually associated with older woman; "Cow" which has multiple meanings but can be used as a ugly woman, and finally hellcat which is the perfect translation but is no longer in use often.

The translator did a great job for this chapter! Thank you for the hard work.

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342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Even this, there is still no sign of Yuki being gay, but plenty of signs of her wanting to get rid of Yuni. The question now is her motive. As for Fuuko, she definitely will be back to try to snatch Yuni back. I have a feeling that the Nanase x Yuni relationship has already peaked and about to "run its course" towards dissolution.
The mangaka has no record of writing a square relationship plot (four persons polyamory), or a two couple plot, that we know of. So one of the four will be left out no matter what happen. I don't think it will be that easy to end as a Yuki x Nanase and Fuuko x Yuni endgame.
Oh yes, this is now my favorite ongoing Yurihime manga to follow, now that Citrus plus is being incredibly inconsistent.

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342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Where is Mashiro?

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Very good ending. Anything else as the mangaka say would lead to multiple volumes. So stop it just at the right moment where it can stop. The bottom line is, the protagonist can continue as a couple, in regardless of the situation. So stop it there. Rose can be honest about her job to Benika while Benika can accept Rose's work, which is a good compromise. Benika killing Rose will not necessarily help Benika and her father because they have already known too much secret.

The Gina-Hibei epilogue most likely was drawn so that it would complete a volume. Those two should have their own story and the mangaka can draw it without Rose, Benika, etc. A complete side story.

conradin
Octave discussion 08 Dec 06:20
342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Yukino must be one of my most disliked protagonists in all yuri manga that I have read. Her lies are completely out of control. I do not see why anyone would be interested in her. If you decide to stay inside the closet, you can do so without lying by simply not talking about certain subjects. She could not even tell her mom the truth about moving in with Setsuko, when the mom clearly is not homophobic. Notice that there is only ONE homophobe inside the story, and that was Yukino's best friend in high school, and even she ended up not being a homophobe towards the end of the story. Everyone else seems to "gets it" when it comes to the relationship between Yukino and Setsuko, even though they were told that the two of them are just "friends".

She also lies to Shiori, a lesbian, and frankly Shiori should ask for a new manager.

I do understand the problem of Homophobia, the manga was drawn around early 2010s. This was drawn some 13 years ago, so Yukino does have a legitimate reason to avoid coming out of the closet. It is the way she stays in the closet that makes me dislike her. I wonder what sort of persona Yukino will have if the manga would be re-drawn, now being 2020s.

Iberis is a much better manga.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

Chapter 18 just shows how incredibly romantic this Yuri manga is. I love the pace and every panel has some subtle meaning to the story to be digested slowly. This is Yuri at its best.

last edited at Dec 3, 2023 8:53PM

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joined Mar 18, 2023

I'm still on the side line wondering if I should continue to follow.

conradin
VAMPEERZ discussion 26 Nov 23:01
342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Now that the scanlation Chinese version is out, I compare it with the English version and the raw. Suddenly the last two chapters feel different, especially the final chapter. It no longer feels rush, or forced to cut short. Just a few translation different details and even type settings can change the meaning in such a subtle way that makes my lightbulb turned on. Such as words spoken without bubbles make me wonder whose thinking is it from. Now it is much clearer. I am waiting for the German edition coming out and see what happens. Yes, my name is listed on the patron list.

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joined Mar 18, 2023

I think I am getting more and more confused because it seems to me that both series are on different time line.

342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

Too happy. Too easy. for Koto. Something is up. Please, no trainwreck.

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342713096_945190890232560_6363820535049258469_n
joined Mar 18, 2023

One thing for sure, if Yuki is gay then the manga would have been over long time ago. So Nanase x Yuki ship will never sail. But then there is always a possibility that you don't date your fellow lesbian best friend because the relationship is already similar to sibling relationship.
I think this story will end like Illuminous Blue. Despite being a love triangle polyamory relationship, the two "side chicks" are not lovers by the time the love triangle develops when the MC shows up. Hence Nanase and Fuuko do not need to be friends, as long as they tolerate each other and know the boundaries. BTW, I was raised in this type of household, so I know how it works and how it does not work. Mostly it will not work, it is just human nature.