Now that you mentioned it she didn't just want sex but proof of Koro love, if they had sex I would say it shows in upper panel of page 28 because of the way we see their legs while next page is the cuddling after, that flower probably means something related to Yuriko loving Koro so I don't see why some have problem if they had sex or not, like you said Nevri the result is the same.

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How people see sex when she makes clear they just cuddled? In page 27 Koro says it's a hot day and in page 32 Yuriko says that now she have someone to cuddle with on hot summer days, not to mention the flowers are the same in front of Koro home in page 28 so they definitely don't mean sex, if someone knows what flower is that we could see it's meaning as they're definitely important for page 29 context, but I don't see anything that imply sex.

Another thing, as someone obssessed with Yuriko to the point she stalks her, knows everything she did and even collects her hair as shown in page 33, Koro would definitely say something or act different if they had sex.

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Oh it's just for region lock? Thanks anyway Rye, I'll have a look later., something that I thought only now, last Medabot games made before this, they got localized? Cause if not guess we have less chance of getting this one, especially if it's as gay as it looks, unless they edit a lot...

ZuljinRaynor, can you tell me the name of those other four mangas in your picture? I see one in the left and three in the right.

What homebrew? Name please.

Yeah I heard that most people didn't really care about him and didn't see chemistry between them, thanks kickap00.

And I can't let people dream cause I'm evil~~

Although, in a different note about the "yuri fan's paranoia", I HAVE been treated to the "miracle" that is a boy being in only two or three pages and showing romantic interest and then not popping up again until the yuri manga just stops at the bad end wherein one of the two main characters dates/marries him after time skip... It was pretty terrible.

You're talking about "Happy End"? Cause if not I'm curious about what manga you're talking about.

So it was an actual kiss? Not just for comedy or some other stupid reason like in Rosario+ Vampire for example? Cause all I know is that it have some high subtext and most fans wanted it to end in yuri instead of het, I didn't knew about the kiss so I don't have any idea how it was or the context.

From what I read it never gave me the impression of being more than normal subtext that is obviously nothing serious like we see in other series, but I admit I always found a little strange how apparently a good amount of fans wanted them to end together, so I would be grateful if someone could give me some context if it really was more than subtext or not, I mean the manga.

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so uh... I watched the OFFICIAL english dub of Ghost Stories anime

I remember reading about it, apparently no one cared about the anime in japan and the studio that made it was almost closing, so they sold the rights and didn't put any restrictions as long they made it sell, which is why the dub is like that, years later another publisher made proper dub that is truer to the original, so it have two official dubs, it's pretty much the first abridged serie made, Tv Tropes has more details about it.

I'm a little confused blopa, you're saying that it is almost canon or that the subtext was never serious because even Momiji complained that people was seeing yuri in it?

I see, it's a shame no one translated the rest, thanks moguTL.

Saitama in Fallout 4, someone need to make a mod of this... (T=T)

They don't load for me either, but it seens download chapter button is working.

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What Paraiso page you keep thinking about moguTL? You said the version posted here is mistranslated so it have a different translation in other reader? I'm curious about it so link please!

also, i'm fairly sure she uses dynasty, so kinda hoping she doesnt stumble upon this

She definitely read this thread, can't help but hope she makes a post too.

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From what I know it never goes beyond subtext so we can't really call it canon, and didn't the main character end up with her male love interest?

This Shou revenge bullshit is starting to get annoying, he's the one who fucked up, someone would have noticed sooner or later, it being discovered by yuri fan was just a coincidence, it's stupid to expect he would make an entire manga for revenge or trolling on a minority that is not even his main audience, he didn't made Prism and Stretch for us, he made because he wanted to, you guys are giving too much importance to yuri fandom, just because we're the main consumers of yuri that doesn't mean all yuri is made specifically for us, it's not all about us.

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I forgot to ask before but someone knows how far Bhikkhuni goes? Does it have any couple at all or stay just in fanservice?

There are not official couples per se but still the yuri content is quite high. All the girls in the cast develop crushes on each other, CGs are quite yuri and the little relationship scenes between the characters are a treat.

Ranka deserves an special mention, she's so into her sis that at one point she thinks Rinka is proposing and she lets slip that she has completely planned their wedding AND honeymoon.

I see, I didn't expect to have any couple but it does sound better than I expected, thanks Dark_Tzitzimine.

Thanks for your post Nezchan, it explains perfectly what I view as protagonist and hero as not being the same thing.

Anti-hero definition says that it's a character who lacks conventional heroic attributes, which imply that the character have some heroic attributes that are not conventional to be called anti-hero, but Kuroko doesn't have any heroic attribute at all, actually quite the opposite as we see that she's a cold ruthless serial killer who kills without any reason except for the fact that she can, she doesn't save people because she wants but because she need to stay free, the way she killed those three girls is basically an example of how she doesn't have any heroic attribute and she's just evil like it was already shown to us since the beginning, which is why I see Kuroko as a protagonist who is a villain working for the good guys, like Alucard.

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Faust posted:

Well in anti-hero, hero is protagonist. Kuroko is literally the "hero" of the story, that fucks shit up and kills people.
Regardless, an anti-hero does not need to work for the "good guys", that's what you keep getting wrong.
A villain protagonist is an anti-hero.

But like I said, protagonist =/= hero, they don't always mean the same, she might be a hero in the narrative sense just because she's the protagonist, but her character in-story is not a hero in any way, so she can't be an anti-hero, so Kuroko is the protagonist of the story, that fucks shit up and kills people.

From a point of view in-story an anti-hero need to be working for the good guys to be even close to be called an anti-hero.

A villain protagonist is an anti-hero.

No, it's not, villain and hero are opposites, you already said it right there, villain protagonist, no one will say anti-hero protagonist because they are villain, they're the bad guys and people will expect them to be evil, not to be hero who do evil things.

As for Deadpool, isn't him more like Chaotic Neutral? He pretty much worked for most people in both sides.

And Faust, we're not going by the logic that protagonist = hero, so no, if the character is not working for the good guys then he can't be an anti-hero, if anything Kuroko is a Nominal Hero at best: "While these anti-heroes may fight on the side of good, their intentions/motivations are anything but."

Basically hero in name only, besides that she's basically a villain in their world, she is a serial killer with more than 715 deaths.

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Chantelune posted:

And seriously, if we're down to using tvtropes as reference now, then the conversation reached a new low. That site has a tendency to twist the way they read the material to fit their little labels...

Hey! As a Troper I take offence in that! But seriously though, I know Tv Tropes need to be used with care.

Nevri posted:

My understanding of anti-hero is a protagonist that overall is working for good side, but their methods and/or attitude is often closer to that of the typically associated with villains.

For me too, for me protagonist is not synonymous of hero, protagonist =/= hero, they'e two separate things, if the evil ish characters are not working for the "good" side then they're not anti-heroes, they're just villains or neutral.

Nezchan posted:

I know Tv Tropes is not always a good sourcce but they talk about all kinds of anti-hero, like Nineties Anti-Hero that are basically those anti-heroes like The Punisher that are super violent.

Punisher goes way back before the 90's, and in turn is basically a comics version the lead in Mack Bolan's Executioner novels. The 90's didn't invent that shit, they just made it lurid.

Yeah I know that, the reason they call it like that, from what I remember, is because in the nineties they started to do a lot of comics with anti-heroes like The Punisher, but in practice that name is wrong.

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Well in case of Spider-man and Batman according to Tv Tropes they're Classical Anti-Hero because they're flawed people, Spider-man is even the trope picture in Classical Anti-Hero page

Light started as anti-hero but he ended up as villain protagonist.

And Faust, I'm pretty sure we're not talking about hero = protagonist, but anti-hero being a character that fights for the good, he's a hero that does questionable things or worse.

I know Tv Tropes is not always a good sourcce but they talk about all kinds of anti-hero, like Nineties Anti-Hero that are basically those anti-heroes like The Punisher that are super violent.

I have to actually agree with Evilnemesis, there's just no way she made all those things by accident...

Since we're discussing the definition of anti-hero now, aren't characters like Spider-man, Batman, The Punisher, Lord Byron, Lelouch and others also seen as anti-heros because they don't fall completely in the hero category?

Types of anti-heroes according to Tv Tropes http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Analysis/AntiHero?from=Main.SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes

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There's two types of anti-hero, the one that the character is a "hero" who either is flawed or do evil things, like Spider-man and The Punisher for example, and then there's hero in a narrative sense, in that the protagonist is the hero independent of the fact that they're a villain, from a narrative sense I agree that Kuroko can be called an anti-hero, but her character is a villain, she will do horrible things.

A really stupid, really forced and really unnecessary accident that had absolutely nothing to do with the character, the context, the story, the plot or anything at all in the story. So shock-baiting garbage.

But she didn't do it, it was an absurd accident. That's the problem.

The entire manga is absurd and full of gore, to think that was shock bait is ridiculous, you really believe that after all that happened people will be "gasp! she raped a girl with a umbrella! what a horrible monster! thats the worst thing I ever seen in my life!"?

Are you really upset about the umbrella scene? Do u guys even know what this manga is about? xD

Some people doesn't seen to know what this manga is about as that scene is apparently the most disturbing thing in the manga for them.

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1. any emotions she seems to show whil fighting/killing/torturing seem to be faked and/or programmed into her via brainwashing/mental conditioning.

But that is what other characters are assuming, cause we can see that she at least have fun doing it, but she doesn't kill because it's fun, she just does it, it's just her nature, she doesn't need a reason, she's almost a force of nature.

2.kuu-chans psychopathy beginning at least 10 years before the current story( assumedly putting here in school matching up with earlier flashbacks) that some crazy woman has been behind both creating all these villains.

I don't see that way, for me it just says that woman cared only about Kuroko, as far as we know Kuroko was always a psychopath and that woman knew her, maybe she's even the one who raised her and is responssible for Kuroko not being caught sooner.