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Am I the only one who's linking "being taken away by the mermaid" to suicide by drowning and finding this really dark?...

You're definitely not the only one. The series has a very eerie and kind of surreal feeling to it, I have a strange inkling of a notion that it's not supernatural but instead the mother drowned. I really hope the story doesn't end in total heart break.

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I mean Jiro is 5'1 and Momo is 5'8. So there's always been a fairly significant height difference between them. Plus Jiro isn't really the type to wear heels, where as Momo very much much is.

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Very cute but not sure how I feel about the hinted issue of dependency.,., it hits me in a weak spot.

I didn't get that from this at all personally. The way I view this story is that, when your partner goes out to spend the day with a friend, it can get a bit lonely being home alone, which I think is entirely normal. So it didn't seem like dependency, more just that she wanted to comfort her girlfriend and enjoy their time together in the morning, before going out and spending the day with someone else. Which again seems like a pretty normal relationship to me.

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Telling someone what they should write about is entirely self centered.

I'm not telling anyone what to write. I was simply explaining why certain cliches or story ideas annoy people more. As I said, it's usually not a big issue until you start consuming a lot of media and certain scenarios show up much more often than other. If it was depending on me, of course I'd tell every artist to write stuff to cater to my taste and satisfy my interests, but that's obviously unrealistic.

Fair enough. As I said in another post I do consume a lot of media, but I'm of the mind that I don't understand entirely why it annoys people. Yes common trends and ideas are often retold many times by different authors, but authors in general just write what they like and want to write about. It's our choice to continue consuming the story or not, getting annoyed by it just seems like a waste of time to me.

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For people saying everything is cliche in some way and that certain things are part of human nature, hence unavoidable, you should remember what the definition of cliche is:

"an expression, idea, or element of an artistic work which has become overused to the point of losing its original
meaning or
effect, even to the point of being trite or irritating, especially when at some earlier time it was
considered meaningful or novel"

Sure. Cliche or tropes are not bad in and of itself, it's all about execution, yada, yada, yada. The point is variety. If everyone always include the same things, because "it's realistic" or "it happens in real life" then fiction becomes oversaturated with it and it becomes boring. It's fine reading few times, but if almost every work uses it, it starts to becoming annoying. The point is, it's fiction, not real life. Good works give you illusion of realism, while still being good stories. Ignoring the escapism and wish fulfillment part of reading fiction (aka people got enough of that irl), those kind of stories are done to death at this point, while so many other possibilities are not even touched. It's the same thing as with love triangles. It's not that stuff like that doesn't happen, but rather because it does, it's one of the most obvious ones people could write about and use in their stories, at this point it just comes off as lazy, because tt feels like there's zero creativity behind it.

What becomes trite and irritating is a matter of perspective. Not every story is going to be for you. Telling someone what they should write about is entirely self centered. If someone wants to write about love triangles, then so be it. You have a choice of consuming the work or not. You can avoid it. Other people can enjoy this manga and you don't have to.

There are tropes and cliches in the stories that you enjoy. Unless you enjoy literally nothing, then I only feel sorry for you and I hope you find some form of happiness.

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Here's the reason why I'm not a fan of the "cliche argument". Nothing is truly original, everything is inspired by something, everything has tropes and cliches, parts of other stories and ideas. As one fantastic work I saw said, the nice thing about stories is that they're all connected, this author read something and was inspired to make their own story or spin on that type of story, the author that inspired them was inspired by the stories of another author themselves, and those stories were inspired by yet another author's tales, and so on. We're all connected just like our stories, especially on a scale where we can now share stories on a global level these days.

Plus I always go back to this point, since Shakespeare became popular pretty much every story has elements of his works in some fashion, some kind of inspiration or thread linking back to his writing, and Shakespeare himself wasn't entirely original.

Yes I've been the audience for stories similar to this before. I've enjoyed so many different stories over the years that have been told in many different ways. I'm here to see how this plays out, and how the author handles this type of story. I'm not saying it will be good, or even bad. I'm here for the ride, and I'm enjoying the art style at the very least.

Plus ultimately a wide range of stories helps with contrast, and seeing how different authors approach various subjects can help you define your own preferences, how you would prefer a story to unfold. This again is entirely my own perspective and take on stories.

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Honestly this is really cute. I really read Shiho as probably being depressed at the very least, so I feel like it's good that she's got Akari to help pull her up and out some. Even still, I don't see how y'all don't see Shiho as absolutely adorable in spite of what seems like difficulties on her end one way or another. Right from the get go, there's an emphasis that Shiho genuinely pushes herself to make happy memories with Akari and listens to her plenty. It's a nice reciprocal relationship of two women that are pretty contrasting. Nothing too extreme or dramatic as others have pointed out, but it's pleasant and cute.

Yes she pushes her self for the sake of their relationship, but assuming she has depression or something along those lines, such is the woe of depression and socializing with even loved ones unfortunately. However she pushes herself because she cares so much about Akari, and that is in it's own way adorable and endearing, in my opinion. Their relationship is wholesome in my eyes, and she only pushes herself because it's worth making that effort for the person she loves.

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Well guess I'll be one of the only people here to finish this manga. I enjoy the mundane and ever so slightly surreal vibe I get from this slice of life romance. I thought these two new chapters were cute, and I like their relationship. Some people were saying how they'd never date someone like Shiho, which sure you have your preferences, but I think that's kind of sad in a way. You can't choose who you fall in love with, and in my opinion someone like Shiho is an endearing dork in her own way.

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SHY discussion 26 Oct 09:07
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Is not really filler, is just showing how well people treat her now compared to the first chapters... An actual filler would be to show a cartoon villain like stealing panties or something and then beat him and realize that he had no relation to the real enemy with the rings.
Introducing new character like last time or seeing a different side of them like the time previous to that is also not filler... Is just that it isn't a fight.

This 1000%. I've been convinced for a very long time that people don't know what filler really is. People don't want character development, pacing, world building. They just want the next "bad guy" to show up so the hero can punch them. They don't care about a story taking a moment to be relaxed, giving the story and characters time to breathe. It's always gotta be action 24/7 otherwise it's "boring filler". Thankfully the people complaining aren't writing the story.

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SHY discussion 18 Aug 05:20
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I'm going to say I don't like Shy. She can be scared, but as a hero she can't be that indecisive. This just rubs me the wrong way, like the way a shounen manga with a stupid protagonist would.

Yuri though, is always welcome. If there is any.

We also don't know her age, but it's implied and looks looks like she's not any older than being a teenager. So she's still probably coming into her own and trying to figure herself out, on top of managing the whole burden of being a hero. Which is a classic story with the likes of Peter Parker and so fourth, Miles Morales in Spiderverse as another Spidey example.

It's the first chapter, hating her when the story hasn't even begun to have character development or progress feels unfair, especially given her young age. I can't tell people what to do or how to think, but in my opinion people sometimes get on the hate bandwagon way too quickly. I think it's best to instead keep the door open and see how things progress, develop your opinions over time and give the author a chance to flesh out the characters.

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Misuzu doesn’t seem like a bad girl. She doesn’t seem anti-social either, she just doesnt seem to be a people-person; she prefers spending time with people she’s really fond of, in this case her girlfriend. She might be a bit possessive but not to the point of manipulation... if that makes sense

As I'm not people-person, I can confirm it works like you say. She does not give bad vibes to me either. I even can't call her possessive. She is truly only into her girlfriend, she just does not care about anyone else, to lose her time and energy in vain.
I would call her focused person, not possessive.
And she is gentle.

I agree with this, their relationship seems pretty good and they joke around while communicating with each other. They're both acknowledging each other's perspective and points, so I think the relationship very well could last. Also not being a people person is perfectly fine in my opinion, everyone is different after all, it's just about finding a balance in your relationships.

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@nesshoes Personally I don't think the start is slow? Regardless of it's slow or not I think the start is wonderful, the way it just throws you into the series. Plus the way it builds up mainly using visuals to tell the story and paint the world.

~ Anyhow, this art is definitely cute and I recommend giving the series a go to anyone that hasn't seen it. It has some of my favorite animation & visuals in anime.

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I'm not even sure what the conversation here is, or what people's stances are. However I want to say, in my opinion Mash is always badass. Regardless of if she's in combat or not. Regardless of if she's wearing glasses or not. Some of my favorite scenes with Mash are with her just having conversations with other characters, figuring out how to deal with her fear and uncertainty. Mash is great and this art is super cute.

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From pure love, to dirty shaming. How sad.

Wait shaming? Where? Huh? If you're talking about the last page it was some cute harmless teasing, you know something that happens between friends and lovers all the time and is normal. It was a cute way to reconnect with her friend that she hadn't seen in forever, there was no shaming and it was never meant to be serious because of course Sato had her period by highschool.

I swear the things people on here see as "shaming" or "abuse" often frightens me.

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@RealmOMFG: Eh agree to disagree. I like Stocking waaaaay more than Panty, in terms of both looks and personality. But I think they contrast each other nicely, so they make for a good ship imo.

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People that don't want to read manga like this, or are just grossed out, really shouldn't click on the manga blatantly tagged "lolicon".

That said, this was cute in my opinion.

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@Lyca Eh I'm fine with it, they're still within the general ballpark. Plus there's also the artist's interruption, I'm fine with some artistic liberties being taken so it's still a 10/10 for me. Especially because I love Snark's style.

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Their Story discussion 08 Jun 17:43
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OK, juice oranges (like the ones on the tree in my backyard) can indeed be a b*tch to peel and eat, because they're really--wait for it--juicy. Other varieties can be much easier, and navel oranges can be almost as easy as tangerines. And then there are tangelos . . .

^ Nothing happens in the story?!? SJ goes to the pharmacy, the kid from the bus shows up, and there's citrus fruit!

What do you want--an invasion of demons from another dimension?

Yeah I don't know what they want. I always run into people that don't "get" slice of life, the point or the appeal. People often expect a demon invasion or something dramatic that has a clear cut goal, while I enjoy those stories as well I also love slice of life because it's very relaxed and calming. The point is to just follow the lives of the main characters, the appeal is their personalities and relationship dynamics. Plus whatever they're doing might be something of interest to the reader, like a slice of life that follows a couple of friends that try out various cafes or something.

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Concerned about sirens in the distant.....

I read this as I was literally hearing sirens in the distance. Should I be concerned?

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The main character is really weak. It's really disgusting.

Who hurt you? This is a school full of children that were taken and trained as soldiers, expected to die before their 18th birthday. So you call a child in a lonely situation "disgusting" for crying because her arm got cut off? I'm sorry but what? I've heard some pretty insane things on these forums before, but this is definitely up there.

Edit: I genuinely don't like the idea that supposed weakness, which everyone has their weaknesses, is something that's disgusting. It's part of the nonsense narrative that men can't cry. Everyone gets stronger by acknowledging that they have a side of them that's not strong and that they can't be strong in every situation. People don't get stronger from others always beating them down and being toxic about weakness, crying, and strength. Compassion and Empathy are also great strengths.

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I think a lot of artists that draw skinny women with large breasts and thick thighs are drawing what they want. They're drawing something that they don't see normally because art doesn't have to be realistic. A lot of artists aren't claiming to be realistic, they're intentionally stylized and exaggerated. Which I think is fine.

I've noticed a lot of people think artists should just confine themselves to only drawing realistically. Which I often think is just the viewer attempting to confine the artist to a narrow box. I also think that's absurd because art is a medium where people can draw anything they want, anything that comes to mind. It's not bound by our own reality and the like.

People are completely entitled to their opinions and preferences. You're free to dislike skinny with large breasts and thighs. Just as artists are free to like and draw them. Also notably I'm saying this as someone who very much likes this piece of art, I like the way the bodies are drawn here.

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That's the thing, a lot of anime art and the like is very stylized. I rarely if ever relate anime characters to IRL, because of how stylized they tend to be and separating fiction from reality isn't hard. Plus anime ages are also all over the place with various body types.

There's also such a thing as very petite women, I'm not sure if some people realize that. Some adult women are under 5 feet tall & have small breasts, or are completely flat chested. Japanese women (and I think men?) are known for being on the smaller end some of the time. Edit: I do know every country has different height averages.

Ultimately though I agree with the person/people saying Pearl doesn't look like a loli. She's just small, nothing weird or unusual about that.

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I think the bottom line is simply that they're zombies. Zombies are fictional and you can do whatever you want with them. Stressing/thinking about how zombies should work makes less than the idea of them getting horny and so fourth. In my opinion it's best to just kick back and enjoy it. The art is cute & hot plus they're an adorable ship.

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Eh, more like she actually had to face a consequence for once and doesn't like how that feels.

^This.

It's not over the top or even shounen like, it's just that someone finally called her out on her bullshit. Which was likely the first time in her life anyone has done so. Plus it was her crush that did it. Both of those factors are enough to completely shatter her world, in my opinion at least.

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I haven't seen a bully get destroyed that hard in a long time. Getting completely destroyed emotionally by your crush has to be an awful feeling, but who else can you blame but your self? When it's your own actions that caused them to despise you.