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Why is the title of the manga "Whispering YOU a Love Song", but in the anime it becomes "Whispering ME a Love Song"?

It's actually "Whisper" not "Whispering."

"Whispering You a Love Song" is an unofficial translation. Official translation is "Whisper Me a Love Song." I prefer the official version since it's presumably from Hima's POV (and eventually Shiho's). Either title works though.

Thank you for your explanation. But why is "Whispering You a Love Song" an unofficial translation, when it also appears on the cover of the Japanese version?

That's not the official English translation. JP will often have an English translation or alternative title/sub-title of their own but that doesn't always carry over.

last edited at Apr 17, 2024 9:43PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Yes apparently the latest chapter is the ending. It feels a bit rushed to be honest and Akira got totally shafted (she gets like two lines and doesn't talk to Satsuki AT ALL). I'm hoping the extra chapters give us more but after the ending I'm not expecting a whole lot.

The extra is mainly about Satsuki and Komachi. It's broken into two parts

last edited at Apr 17, 2024 7:09PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Why is the title of the manga "Whispering YOU a Love Song", but in the anime it becomes "Whispering ME a Love Song"?

It's actually "Whisper" not "Whispering."

"Whispering You a Love Song" is an unofficial translation. Official translation is "Whisper Me a Love Song." I prefer the official version since it's presumably from Hima's POV (and eventually Shiho's). Either title works though.

last edited at Apr 17, 2024 11:31AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I don't know why I wasn't expecting a love rival in this one. I guess not even having a child is enough to stop them.

That was my feeling too. Didn't think we needed one but we'll see if it doesn't go the predictable way.

last edited at Apr 17, 2024 6:20AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Ah, the evolution from working hard to not getting rejected to working hard to not getting dumped lol

The eternal struggle.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Kadokawa themselves are marketing this as a love story so at least there's that.
link:: https://x.com/Kadobunofficial/status/1779706221894766991

They marketing to sell it. For that matter, Futari Escape was marketed as them being girlfriends despite nothing ever being said on that.

Nothing except the author saying they didn't feel the need to spell things out bc it was published in Yuri hime.

Things don't always need to be written in bolded, flashing neon letters to be true.

100% true but what authors consider "yuri" varies quite a bit and doesn't always match up with what most people here would want. You'd also normally want the series to stand on its own without needing to reference it's publication or an authors' comments on Twitter.

Having said that, I do expect this series to be a bit more straightforward eventually, even if it does have a lot it's working with and balancing. It's slower, yeah but I'd still be surprised if it doesn't get there, despite her comments.

last edited at Apr 16, 2024 9:37PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

It was cute and then here we go.

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Awww not another "dropped" manga

There are updates on manhuascan.com

Looks like the (official) version is the censored play/apple store ap friendly version. So I would recommend the non-"official" version. (Kinda sucks that Pocket Comics picked it up, since they don't offer non-censored versions on their official site like INKR.)

It's not a sexual series, despite it's subject material so there wouldn't be much of a difference.

last edited at Apr 16, 2024 3:04PM

SrNevik
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^ @ Random_Bird
Unless I misunderstood what you're saying, Dungeon Meshi is completed and has been for a bit now.

last edited at Apr 16, 2024 12:42PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I enjoyed this. It is a bit of an extreme way of dealing with a caregiving, overly codependent, "friend" by an individual with terrible self-esteem. Junna feels guilty around Nana, knowing as long as she (Junna) is "unsuccessful" the caregiving Nana will always sacrifice to support her. So, she decides to separate herself from the equation, at least until she's reached a point where she has confidence and is "self-sustainable." She doesn't contact Nana much until then because seeing a struggling Junna might trigger Nana's need to support her (Nana's "motherly" ways, as they say in the story). Extreme, (hell) yes but still touching. I expect Junna would have been hurt but accepting if Nana had found someone else in the meantime, but it works out for them both in the end.

last edited at Apr 16, 2024 7:46AM

SrNevik
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She's thinking of disappearing that plushie but doesn't want to hurt Utena's feelings. She'll be lost deep in thought for hours, trying to figure out a solution.

last edited at Apr 15, 2024 9:05PM

SrNevik
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Without taking sides, I just find it fascinating how far the pendulum swings here. One party claims to see signs of grooming here, whereas another claims that there is, in fact, nothing special going on between these two.

Really makes you think how art is always in the eye of the beholder...

Yeah it's funny isn't it?

last edited at Apr 15, 2024 1:35PM

SrNevik
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Takamine this chapter:

Going to school: I sleep.

Seeing (future) girlfriend on the train: real shit.

Got her priorities in order.

543633_50
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She's always liked Kiwi, right from the start.

But certainly not to the extent Kiwi likes her. There's a reason nothing happened in the hotel in the end.

That wasn't because she didn't like her enough. It was a pretty typical plot device. I won't get into it much further since that's years old by this point and their relationship has long since progressed. Anyway it's spun, that situation (and their "fight" which we also haven't mentioned) was not a rejection of Kiwi but a stepping stone for and promise between them. Utena was never genuinely uncomfortable with Kiwi. They were positioned as 1a/1b right from the jump and only got closer as the series went on. Pretty normal romantic progression.

last edited at Apr 15, 2024 12:54PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Meanwhile Kiwis very introduction was setting up their compatibility [...]

Kiwi's very introduction set her up as an insane stalker constantly making Utena very, very uncomfortable. Looking for anyone else to pair Utena with has little to do with love for rivals-to-romance or anything like that, it's just Kiwi being the absolute worst.

Utena wasn't ever uncomfortable. It was a gag (and a common one in manga) but that was never real and has continued not to be real. She's always liked Kiwi, right from the start. Kiwi is the worst in a manga about "villains" who sexually dominate their rivals? I don't see it. You might dislike Kiwi (and that's fine) but Utena never shared those negative feelings. Those two truths have to be separated.

last edited at Apr 15, 2024 9:11AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

We've come so far from people doubting whether this manga was even yuri, lol.

I dunno if you're reading the same comment section as me, but people were arguing about it not long ago saying it was yuribait. I'm sure it'll come up again.

To be fair, there's still a pretty good chance that we won't see anything definitive as far as confirmed romance goes. It all depends on how you define ''bait'' in the end.

Based on how she normally talks about the series, I'm expecting something like what Yukiko does with her pairs ("Futaribeya," also the recently posted "Cry for the Moon"). Both authors describe their character relationships and their intentions in similar ways. We'll see though.

Except that's not really how any of Sumiko's other works go. Like a lot of Yukiko's oneshots are subtext too. None of Sumiko's are.

As I mentioned, I am basing my opinion on Sumiko's interviews and comments about this series. When discussing this series Sumiko sounds similar to Yukiko when she discusses her own character relationships. I know about Sumiko's other works (like them too) but that doesn't mean every series will be the same. I love Futaribeya anyway, so it's not a negative. It's also just an impression I get.

last edited at Apr 14, 2024 4:38PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

We've come so far from people doubting whether this manga was even yuri, lol.

I dunno if you're reading the same comment section as me, but people were arguing about it not long ago saying it was yuribait. I'm sure it'll come up again.

To be fair, there's still a pretty good chance that we won't see anything definitive as far as confirmed romance goes. It all depends on how you define ''bait'' in the end.

Based on how she normally talks about the series, I'm expecting something like what Yukiko does with her pairs ("Futaribeya," also the recently posted "Cry for the Moon"). Both authors describe their character relationships and their intentions in similar ways. We'll see though.

last edited at Apr 14, 2024 1:13PM

SrNevik
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Read this a while ago but nice to check in again.

I've been too long on this site because I can no longer tell if this is ironic or serious.

Same.

I feel like Subtext would be a more appropriate tag since there’s nothing really explicitly romantic about their interactions

It's tagged yuri officially and by a yuri author.

last edited at Apr 14, 2024 11:42AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I was so worried Miyako would break up with Ayako to "protect" her. I'm so glad they didn't go down that route.

Also what stage is their relationship right now. They've dated for months now, are sharing a bed, and taking baths together. But I don't think I've seen them kiss once yet. Is it implied to have happened off screen?

They're a couple, that's all.

There's no need for more.

Yeah, I'm confused too lol. I mean sure, they're a couple but after a while you'd start wondering if you haven't kissed like, does this person even like me? are they asexual? what's going on? I'm here waiting for the kiss like o__O

There's a lot they do we don't see. Still, we know they're a happy couple. I think that's what Kirin was saying. As you said, they've been dating for months, are living together, are sharing the same bed, taking baths together, planning to meet each other's families, and discussing permanent life decisions. Isn't that more than enough?

last edited at Apr 12, 2024 4:56PM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I think Aki's feelings for Shiho have always been strong, especially after Shiho left. In my opinion, Aki caught romantic feelings for Yori in a natural manner while Shiho was still present, meaning that Shiho did not impress her heart just by "being there". Once Aki lost both Yori (to Himari) and Shiho (her leaving), she kept chasing Shiho but not Yori. Aki could absolutely have been a villain of sorts in this story and attempted to jeopardize Yori's relationship, but she chose to let it go. Does this mean that Aki is just nice? Or does it mean that her love is not that strong? Does she just want to have Yori by her side? If she truly was in love, wouldn't she at the very least have confessed after Himari came into play?

Meanwhile, whenever the topic is about Shiho, Aki goes out of her way to attempt to get her back. She becomes stubborn, annoying (to Shiho), and just puts herself in front of Shiho. She is not afraid to tell her that she wants her back, and after Shiho confessed, her feelings became all scrambled. I think she might even see a little of herself in Shiho, since she also hid her feelings from Yori.

Nothing to add (and not really responding to what I've quoted) but wanted to say I agree with your discussion of their relationship, especially of Aki's feelings. Your breakdown mostly mirrors my feelings about them and my understanding of Aki's consistent pursuit of Shiho.

last edited at Apr 12, 2024 11:52AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Well, anyway, my earlier thesis that Kiwi has won the shipping war still stands, and I am very okay with that. :-)

Personally I think the manga has been entirely unambiguous with this. Sayo and Utena just have compatible kinks. There's not much in the way of actual romance between them. Utena and Kiwi, on the other hand, have had several chapters specifically about their feelings. The relationship dynamics in the manga seem extremely obvious to me. Hell, Kiwi has even started playing with Azur/Sayo in her own way to bond with Utena.

You're 100% right, there's no debate there. I think they must have meant shipping wars by fans? As you say, the canon material is extremely clear.

"Shipping" typically only refers to fan activity, as do "shipping wars", so yeah, that's what I meant. :-) Back around chapter 24, Kiwi had not made her move yet, Azul had just unlocked her La Verita, and the chemistry between her and Utena was great, so she had looked like a serious contender. But that was seven volumes ago, and the author seems to have made up their mind on Baiser x Leopolt endgame since then.

Yeah. That's what I figured you meant. I think we've discussed this before, as well? Anyway, thanks for further clarifying, even though I think your meaning was clear the first time.

Personally I feel romantic tension in the shared kinks that Sayo and Utena have. The story probably doesn't though, sadly.

Yes, it definitely doesn't and Utena has said that a few times, including the very meta chapter 43. Still fun to ship if you want though. Doesn't (have to) hurt anyone.

last edited at Apr 12, 2024 7:33AM

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Well, anyway, my earlier thesis that Kiwi has won the shipping war still stands, and I am very okay with that. :-)

Personally I think the manga has been entirely unambiguous with this. Sayo and Utena just have compatible kinks. There's not much in the way of actual romance between them. Utena and Kiwi, on the other hand, have had several chapters specifically about their feelings. The relationship dynamics in the manga seem extremely obvious to me. Hell, Kiwi has even started playing with Azur/Sayo in her own way to bond with Utena.

You're 100% right, there's no debate there. I think they must have meant shipping wars by fans? As you say, the canon material is extremely clear.

last edited at Apr 12, 2024 6:47AM

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joined Sep 10, 2022

I don't think Shion necessarily needs to or should "trauma dump" on Haruna, but she definitely needs to talk to Haruna because Haruna herself wants to know what is going on. I don't think in this particular situation "closure" is a bad thing for two people who want to repair their relationship. As it is right now, I think it is way worse for Haruna, who also has really low self esteem, to think she did something wrong for Shion to break off their friendship than it is for her to find out it's because of Shion's unrequited feelings and guilt.

We're in agreement, then--that's what I was saying. She needs to continue talking with Mona, who has offered to help her through her feelings and then after coming to a better place she can calmly talk with Haruma and explain what's happened. That would be appropriate closure. I also agree about Mona and Shion's relationship and dynamics this chapter. Hopefully, Shion recognizes how natural she is with Mona, just as Haruma and Michiru are so natural together.

last edited at Apr 11, 2024 10:55AM

SrNevik
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One of my favorite characters incoming. This series is one of the best. Really love the relationship building between the entire cast.

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So like did they just not talk about it and just kinda chilled out and immediately go to bed? Lol

They didn't immediately go to bed. She took care of her, calmed her down and is giving her space. It's not always best to jump right into those discussions, especially after your loved one is breaking down crying and clearly in distress. She's more focused on comforting her for now.

last edited at Apr 11, 2024 9:54AM