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joined Jan 14, 2020

That would also age everyone that answered the survey and stuck around by 5 years. So that would now put it at 23-31. Though that isn't factoring in all the people that left and new users. So it's a bit hard to say.

Churn is natural. And Dynasty had already been around for at least 9 years (judging by uploads) when the poll happened, obviously lots of people joined since then.

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The survey 5 years ago had the peak ages between 18 (or "18") and 26. OTOH I think it was done on Discord, which might skew younger than the forum.

https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/15346-dynasty-specific-demographic-survey

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I see zero chance of a scenario where Lapis doesn't end up with Natori.

Lapis dies

Diana gets to console Natalie

rainbow8
joined Jan 14, 2020

I'm not sure if it's "bad translation" or "really weird work to start with"

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Rachel probably wouldn't dig her own well, but a well that came with the property, or a village well, would hardly be unusual, I think.

I certainly wouldn't assert that Europeans never drank river water, but we seem to have multiple historians saying it was a last-choice for them, and that they had some idea of water quality by source (as well as appearance.)

Anyway, not like we see Rachel draw her water in the morning.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lets_hang_out_when_the_black_plague_is_over_a_slow_life_of_modern_civilization_in_the_world_of_middle_age_europe_ch02#38

Apologies if someone said this already, but "Franken District" is probably Franconia, and "Roman Empire" must be "Holy Roman Empire". Going by Wikipedia, Franconia is plausibly a major wine source for the HRE. It's hilariously not for the 'real' Roman Empire.

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Pliny the Elder preferred well water best of all, while Columella preferred spring water and put well water beneath that. Lupus Servatus, abbott of Ferrieres, echoes Columella in placing cistern water dead last. Hildegard of Bingen's ranking is, from best to worst, well water, spring water, rain water, and river water. Hildegard also advises that snow water is dangerous to the health, while river and swamp water should always be boiled, then cooled, before drinking.

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ol1h45/deleted_by_user/h5bjn7s/

There's a fourteenth-century text that purports to be a letter from a Valencia man to his sons at university in Toulouse that instructs them to "cook" the water they get from a couple of nearby rivers because it's known to be dirty!

https://old.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/ajkpga/where_did_medieval_europeans_get_drinking_water/eewz0dm/?context=999

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Names and honorifics

I'm a sucker for how people get called different things (like Fate's 6 names in Nanoha A's, none of which are "Testrossa-san".) I realized there's stuff to mine here, too.

Umi: something about her makes almost everyone jump from 'Koumoto-san' (or '-senpai') straight to 'Umi'; I don't think Shou has ever used 'Umi-chan'. Ibu says 'Koumoto', and a couple of old middle school friends said 'Koumoto-chan' and 'Umi-chan', also Fuki 'Umi-chan' on the very first page, but mostly people are either fully formal or totally informal.

Umi herself is a heavy -chan user, using Nacchan for Nae and Zumi-chan for Zumiko. Switches between 'Shou' and 'Shou-chan', though 'Shou' in her thoughts and their private moments.

Much of the friend group is on a personal name or nickname non-honorific basis. Yosshi (Yoshida) is always just that, Maki is usually Makki (even to Umi). Zumi is usually Zumiko (except for Umi). Nae is often Nae, sometimes Nae-chan or Nacchan. Ibu is Ibu-san or -chan usually, but Yuuki to Yosshi.

Or grouping things by what people use for others:

Umi: mostly -chan, except for 'Shou' and 'Makki', also 'Kosugi' (the first camera girl)

Yosshi: uses 'Umi', 'Yuuki', 'Zumiko', 'Nae', 'Makki' -- I didn't notice a single -chan out of her

Maki: 'Yosshi', 'Zumiko', 'Nae'

Nae: 'Umi', 'Ken-chan', 'Ibu-chan'

Ken: 'Nae', 'Yosshi', 'Makki'

Ibu: 'Koumoto', 'Makki' (once); I didn't note her talking to or about anyone else. Well, 'Hey, glasses' to talk to Baba.

Some interactions just have no evidence, either I missed them or they don't happen. Like, even in the friend group, seems like most girls don't bother talking to Ibu. (Even Nae's 'Ibu-chan' was more "is she okay?") I don't think Maki has been showing talking to Umi.

I'm leaving out the default 'lastname-san', and the teachers, who seem to use 'lastname' or 'lastname-san' at random.

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Diluting wine was a big thing for the ancient Greeks and Romans, dunno when Europe stopped that. Also, again, Germany, more ale than wine. I'd imagine the 4 am Sunday drink would simply have been water.

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Given how he showed up going to a wedding in the very beginning of the series, I don't think he can disappear too much.

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She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

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Forks were indeed late. Spoons, not so much. I've never heard of the Church having an opinion on how you eat, unless maybe they had an anti-knife thing for "please stop killing each other at dinner".

I'm impressed that imouto delivered a full-sized fridge through the portal.

their p*op/feces out the window is false and actually wrong information

Also, waste could be valuable. Poop was fertilizer/manure for fields. Pee has industrial uses, for like tanning. People would come and take your waste away for use elsewhere.

Urban filthiness might be more of an Modern period thing, like the 17-1800s, when population grew quickly and faster than the big cities could cope.

joined Jan 14, 2020

So things can travel to the past but never to the future? Interesting that time travel in this manga works the opposite way it does in real life.

The catholics eat with their hands thing was new to me, but not terribly surprising

Honestly I don't really trust all of this research.

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Heh, this early, most of the characters haven't even been named, but we can still see a grouping that stays consistent (and is consistent with the sports groupings earlier): https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch05#6

(first panel) Yumi, Nae, Zumi in the back (closest to us). Ibu and Yosshi side by side. Ken and Maki furthest up. (Plus some other girl beyond.)
Oh, Yosshi gets named next page.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch05#8

Just realized that Ibu is so non-participating that she's not even wearing an apron like (almost) everyone else.

Just realized that Ibu and Yosshi are among rare anime/manga girls who don't have bangs. (Also Fuki, and I guess Zumiko.)

Huh, lower right panel implies Umi has an older brother, as well as younger. I don't recall that https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch06#8

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch06#13
Detail of Umi blushing from practical handholding.

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Re-read. New visual detail: Fuki sweat-dropping when Umi runs out to find Shou. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_blue_star_on_that_day_ano_koro_no_aoi_hoshi_ch02#4

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maybe dark magic only pops up in women and the prince is actually a trans girl

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Is it.. really that bad to let others know that side of you, that you watched pronz as your guilty pleasure?

They're (a) high school (b) girls (c) in Japan. Those are all strikes against letting your freak flag fly. And one of them is the council president, with a reputation to guard.

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Congratulations, Aya-chan, on losing your virginity!

what

rainbow8
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I'm logged in, but otherwise have no features turned on, I barely use Pixiv. I counted 5 het images on the first page: cock, boy, or cum. Plus one with a suggestive foodstuff. The second page seems het-free from the thumbnails, though I don't feel like clicking through every one. Ditto page 3.

Most or all of the images do evoke "male gaze", though you're free to think of it as "leering lesbian gaze" too.

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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/exposing_the_depths_of_her_perversions#11 suggests that MC was getting aroused by the situation. Which the other girl noted and acted on, ending in "why am I smiling?"

I think the authorial intent was not "haha you just read someone getting raped" but "you read someone being forcibly awakened to their pervy sub self". Kind of like "A Face You Shouldn't Show" or Arioto, but more clumsily done, and driven by a coercive blackmail threat rather than a bribe (Arioto) or whatever was happening in the beginning of "Face" (I don't recall).

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Thanks for the translation!

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Further insights from the novel about Yvonne's age:

Not much, really. She's experienced the 8 AM subway rush, but high school or even middle school could have provided that, in Japan. She's never dated or been intimate with anyone before Elsa, so either she died young or had a very single life and isn't more experienced than Elsa.

The translation does say that she regained her past-life memories at 13 in this world; there was also a line suggesting that she doesn't have the earlier memories of this world, but that feels wrong and might have been an error on someone's part. But I dunno, maybe she woke up at 13 and had to fake her way via her knowledge from the game.

Contradictory lines: "she knew nothing of the fifteen years between her birth and the beginning of the main story nor did she regain her memories until late in." but "She had spent more than ten years constantly surrounded by servants,"

So it's possible she got trucked at 16-20, then added only 3 years after that in this world. Yvonne and Elsa are explicitly 16. Or almost 16.

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Well I don't know why I expected Misa to ask if Io was alright instead of straight up victim blaming her for getting assaulted. What a direction this chapter went.

^^^this

Wanting your gf to call you a filthy whore is fine.

Calling your gf a filthy whore right after a rape assault, when you don't know if that's what she wants, and when she doesn't have anywhere to go because her rapist is back in her home and her own parents sold her out to the rapist... that is less fine.

rainbow8
joined Jan 14, 2020

How are they paying for everything? Kase lived in a dorm but both Yamada and Mikawa have apartments. Yamada has part time jobs Mikawa but is just "job hunting." But even if she did have a part time job as well is that really enough to live off of? And Kase presumably does nothing but train, and yet still has spending money for thing like convenience store runs.I would hope that Yamada isn't paying for everything while Kase just trains. Are their patents paying for stuff? Did they get loans? More than even this manga this is a topic I never see mentioned in any manga. Highschoolers just magically get apartments when they graduate and go to school without worrying about money, and maybe get a part time job if they want to. I'm curious what its like for Japanese students in real life and why it's never brought up in manga.

Not like dorms are free, or even necessarily cheaper than an apartment (or half an apartment).

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How old is Yvonne?? Like mentally, all together, both lives.

I'm not sure we ever get any clue how old Yvonne was before, other than old enough to have a job.

I would think that she is at least 20?

If you just take her minimum age at isekai, say 16, and then add life in this world, that'd be 32+, or 26+ if you just count from when her memories returned. But I don't know if living childhood twice -- and having the biological brain of a child, or by now, teenager -- should be counted the same as being an adult of that timespan.

If she got isekaied at 16, then she's actually never been biologically older than she is now, she just has somewhat more overall experiences -- but likely not of sex or relationships.

Come to think of it, I think the most pointed criticism of this work might be how it treats the isekai element. Yvonne has pretty good memories of the game (though as a beta tester, never knew that much about it), but hardly ever thinks about anything else. From the novel (no big spoilers) there is a bit: she's got cooking and cleaning skills, vague mentions of jobs to buy stuff, she seems more comfortable taking care of herself than having servants, now we have this "oh no age gap". But I recall no mention of family, friends, college, living by herself, etc, nor her being introspective about having limited memories, say.

Contrast to other works:

IFTV: Rei has excellent memories of her past self, which seems to be the dominant personality after cascading at age 15 or so. She remembers the game world, but also being an overworked OL, her time in school, her friends and past relationship -- in fact this all becomes plot relevant. (Even the OL skills are mildly relevant!)

MagiRevo is at the other end: around age 6 Anis got some memories of Earth, but it feels like the memories were hazy, and that the native Anis is still the dominant personality. She doesn't think much about her past life because it's not clear she remembers all that much from her past life, other than the possibility of flying machines and home appliances.

Yvonne remembers the game well, like Rei, but not much else comes up. To be fair, she has been dual-memory in this world for 10 years, so it's possible the Earth memories have simply been pushed down and atrophied, except for the game system stuff which is unavoidably relevant to her current life.

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I'm reading the novel. In 18.6 now. Yvonne asks for pumpkin soup, Elsa says she'll need to get milk.

"Did I ever tell you the recipe?"

"I-I guessed!"

...this is foreshadowing the whole time travel thing, and lil Elsa learning the recipe back then, isn't it?