I got lost along the way.

How narcissistic can you get?

I also forgot about the title: "Lily System".

So it's a system made for lilies (ie, yuri). Or maybe to be a home for yuri on a symbolic level.

Like, they can be "lilies" only inside this system.

And I noticed also that besides the fishes and the uniforms, this system is inhabited by cats. It's a system where there can be cats AND lilies.

The uniform symbolic is both "growing up" (once you leave high school you don't wear one ever again) and "dying" (leaving the body behind. But why are there empty uniforms in that system?

It's like the author hid a lot of hints and it's up to us to decrypt them.

I have a hunch that it was all a plan of Mizuki.

The shed belongs to her family.
She's the one who drags Nana into the virtual world.
She's the only one who "hears" a voice.
The two kissing on the top of the tower they spot are maybe Mizuki's wish (it echoes the last pages of chapter 21)
When they wake up inside the VR and see their own body, Mizuki wakes up, but when she kisses the sleeping Nana, some part of Mizuki is still inside the VR and echoes her thoughts (I won't accept it).
In the final chapters, it's obvious she masters the commands of that VR.

So, it all points to a plan of Mizuki to keep Nana by her side "forever" as consciousnesses inside a virtual world, therefore avoiding the graduation, the fact that "lilies" are forbidden in her house, and leaving fairy land.

In the end, they leave their uniforms (symbolically their bodies) behind and get naked to enter the VR.

So, what happens to their bodies is the unknown here. The absence of the machine is odd too.

But who cares? Theirs souls will be forever together.

Maybe there wasn't even a machine.

The metaphor at the end between bodies and uniforms is interesting.

They cease to wear school uniforms because they grow up. And a parallel is made with life and death (reincarnation?)

Also, the "lilies" not allowed in the house suggests that their relationship might be taboo in one of their family.

So, where did they take refuge? In death or in a virtual world?

I have a hunch they "escaped" somehow, but where? Fairy Land?

I guess author left this up to us to decide.

last edited at Jan 3, 2022 11:57AM

The commoners have the number.

When their situation get desperate enough, they have nothing to lose.

lol the waitress... "get married already"

The dream ending would at least allow to hand wave the time paradoxes.

Like, if senpai goes out with either of them (or both), then chances are she'll not marry. And maybe she'll become a successful actress...

Parallel worlds/timelines explanation would mean that somewhere, there is a senpai and a Nanasawa who never got together.

A classic would be a hint, at the end, that the time travel might have really happened. And it'll be left as a hanging question.

Anyway, there's no clean solution to time travel plots where you change your past.

IMO, it'll all end up being a dream she had after fainting.

But then, she'll confess in present time.

"Most friends I have who do drags (queen, king, faux queen, faux king) are not straight."

There are more straight crossdressers than you think. Just because your friends are not is no reason to dismiss them. It's called sample bias.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the fact the MC is straight. This is one of the rare "positive" point of this manga in my opinion. Because "straight crossdressers" rarely have representation.

But if you read my earlier comments in this thread, you'll see what I think about this manga. Ie, it's trash.

lGrub posted:

Bruhhhh, I hate polyamory...

Now, now... Polyamory is something perfectly normal, if not easily achieved.

And it's not Polyamory: there's really only two persons here.

Also:

"You're from the future?"
"Cool beans, let's go out"

(not: "let's call the hospital to get your head checked" ?)

last edited at Dec 31, 2021 4:37AM

Shizuku is such a tsun.

Are they going to pull out a Queen of the Damned?

Kiana posted:

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

I'm wondering the same. Feels like there's something lost in translation.

I think it's pretty clear though?

The "lies" will be revealed later probably, but what she means is that inside a tale, things must be true. There's no need to lie.

Something like, the flower fairies mentioned in Ch5 are kissing, but she pretends, inside the story, that it's not because they are in love, but because of some made up reason. Or whatever awakens isn't love. Or something like that.

So, she's lying.

And Mizuki can probably detect the lies, because she knows what Nana has in mind. That novel is probably a projection.

last edited at Dec 23, 2021 5:50PM

After witnessing yuri in person

Mr. Jones posted:

Wait, what? I read like 5 chapters of that on bilingual manga to practice my Japanese, but it didn't seem to have any yuri in it?

I feel like the first kiss was in like, what, chapter 6 or so? Somebody back me up here.

A kiss?

I just remember them singing together. Chapter 17.

Edit: I checked: there's a "kiss" in chapter 8, but it's to exchange information. Nothing romantic.

last edited at Dec 22, 2021 9:01PM

Bob Marley's "Is This Love" starts playing in the background.

Naguya posted:

THE END?????
I CERTAINLY suggest "WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING?" here ಠ_ಠ

Who said it was the end?

According to page 4 of chapter 1, there are 21 "episodes".

Almost missed the ring. So, it was unrequited.

But then she can raise a cute kouhai now.

And to be "proud" to wear heels is kinda ironic, since there's a women movement in Japan at the moment, who's protesting against the obligation to wear them at work for women, because it's painful, bad for the back and just plain sexist.

Is that Stockholm syndrome?

last edited at Dec 20, 2021 5:51AM

thomasina posted:

Got the issue.I cannot read the Japanese enough to understand what is going on. Sometimes I can translate, sometimes, despite the tegt are easy, I cannot. PLease take a grainof salt because my understanding can be wrong.
...

That was one useless post if I ever read one.

You understood nothing, but you wanted to share your nothingness, so more people would be confused and spoiled at the same time.

Here comes the weirdness and the rabbit hole.

last edited at Dec 19, 2021 1:15PM

Looks obvious that Mizuki wants Nana to come out.

She keeps on teasing her.

Basically, the light aired one is an idiot who didn't even know she had been in love since High School.

This manga is genius.

Nisemonogatari flashback

Sheenah_the_Dino posted:

So... question. Does Miyako know that Asako is a lesbian at this point? I tried going back to previous chapters but it's left kind of vague? In chapter 5 Hato tells her the story about Asako's ex, but they skip over the story so idk whether she told her the ex was a girl

I think it's kept vague on purpose.

You can go a long way in Japanese without ever using pronouns or gender.

Maybe there'll be a reveal later.