citrus nsfw doujinshi when
amazes me there hasnt been one yet with how big this series already is

X2. And I feel like Saburuta would actually be able to make a good ero one. Mei's personality is not wife material imo, but it could serve well for a story like that

This manga tries to have an actual plot and mystery, but at the same time it cuts it off with unnecessary character moments, like them blushing after they discovered something important. I think it'd be better if the romance wasn't interfering during the more serious scenes like that. Like develop it when it's the right time. Not them blushing all the time during their investigation.

Idk, it's like all of the Yuri artists think they have to develop their stories this way.

reads comments first, Mage and Demon Queen similar

anthology

WHY. Seriously, why can't there be more series of this genre? Is it doomed to be in anthology? It's frustrating having so many school girl every day life stories and barely the other genres...

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I think it would also be interesting to have a section of what type of stories each gender frequents more. I've definitely seen a big difference in genders in different types of stories.
For example, romance and drama centered has more female readers. Something like wdtfs.

Violence is the result of traumatic childhood, poverty, mental disorders, etc. Teaching psychopaths to not kill won't make them stop killing people.

(sorry for my english)

It's not always black and white. Sure, there are some genetically inclined people who have higher risks of killing if raised in a certain way.
But there are also the cases where it can be prevented from educating people more. The crimes won't ever fully stop, but I think we can reduce them.
This kinda reminds me of the argument of some Americans for guns. Why ban them when the killer will find a way to kill anyway? But look at the statistics of the countries who don't give guns to everyone like candy.

And yes I agree that the trope of treating men like abusers just because it's Yuri is not great, but like this is Yuri. It's hard to develop a male character good and not expect people to start shipping him with the girls.

And they do the same thing with two girls in straight shows, so is it really an issue? We shouldn't drag down realism or at least a huge chunk of what makes up humanity, just so some shippers don't get any fuel. There is a reason why the most grounded and usually most excelling yuri works don't treat men like they don't exist. This feeling of being "threatened" by a male presence only harms the genre imo.

I don't disagree, but at the same time I'm saying that it's understandable if the male characters are not very developed. Not making them abusers etc, just not developing them as much.

Never thought we'd have redpillers on this site...
Sure, let's not try to educate men about toxic masculinity and how masculine some people think it is for men to be brutal. How talking no for an answer and feeling like their ego gets shuttered to the point of them getting violent is not something that can change.
Also lets not even talk about what is morally good and bad at all, since people will do it anyway...
Yes women should be careful of all these stuff. But this doesn't negate the fact that we also need to educate men.

Most of the comments there are about people bothered by the lack of handsome men.
And yes I agree that the trope of treating men like abusers just because it's Yuri is not great, but like this is Yuri. It's hard to develop a male character good and not expect people to start shipping him with the girls.

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I remember years ago reading this story. I was looking for Sweet guilty live bites and didn't know this was the same author!
It's one of these stories that stick out and you remember. Amano Shuninta is one of the very good authors/artists out there.

Anyway, I really liked this. I don't like half of the characters are a person, but I like reading about them and that's a very important thing of good story telling.
The pair I didn't like was Ruki and Sachan. As characters they are interesting, but besides what everyone else has already said about the cheating situation too, I never felt any chemistry between them. Sachan feels like she's with Euki because she doesn't have anyone better for now. I honestly don't see them lasting in the future at all. I don't think she loves Ruki.

I really liked the friendship between Ruki and Fue. Also Fue and Asuna relationship was interesting. I think they'd have chances to make it work in the future.
I don't like Remi at all, but she is useful for making people reveal the worst part of themselves. Her character reminds me of the snake from the Eden garden. She's the temptation personified. There were hints here and there about her back-story, but there weren't enough for me to make her likeable or more than just someone who stirs things up.

I liked Massa and her grandpa was adorable. I was scared he'd actually die after his first wobble. Meru was also interesting because she is the character who is the most emotional needy. So that part of her made a very good combination with her need for food. Because a lot of the time people are using food to replace their emotional needs.
Ruki, Fue, Massa and Meru are not bad people. They just have their flaws.

Yeah I don't understand how she doesn't realize that cutting them literally 10/10 of the times that something is about to happen is normal? Doesn't she realize after a point it really turns readers off? Unfortunately I barely care about the characters anymore, but the art style is top notch, so a scene like that would be the best thing that has happened in citrus for a long time.
Plus they look more mature and not like literal 11 year olds having sex cringe which is so common in the Yuri genre. Like I wonder, the artists who draw all these kids getting it on, do they find it...hot?

I went back to Citrus chapter 41 and Sabu cut them again by having Mei getting up. Is she doing this on purpose? Maybe the publishers want this to be sfw , I have no idea. But even with that there are other ways to censor. I'd rather have them cut the scene and imply it happened rather than Mei acting like that even after they got married.
Like wow, they got the courage to come out to everyone, including Mei's grandpa, but Mei still can't handle touching Yuzu....

That was gross af and not funny...

These men in the council look like the titans from aot lol...
This chapter was better than the rest at least
Also

lesbian bed death

It can't be bed death if it never was alive to begin with lol

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This chapter feels like my life during exams.
-gets lost, but wait I have map
-can't read map, tries anyway
-falls and almost dies
-rain starts pouring and you have nowhere to hide

I'm not sure if I want to break my heart again but... does anyone have ALL Fluttering Feelings chapters downloaded? And could share them with me?

They're uploaded in Mangakakalot

The worst part of this manga is not Mei. It's how them coming out to their family was handled.
Like how in the world their parents were so fine so quick? The mom didn't even seem shocked, and even if she knew, the author didn't even add any clues throughout the story to hint at it.
The grandpa was the worst part. You mean to tell me that he would accept them like that so quick? Someone like him would definitely be the type to denounce Mei of the family. The same man who wanted her to get married to a 30+ yo man when she would be barely an adult.

There was potential for the story to actually have a substance, if Sabu wrote about these instead. Mei's cold character and avoidance to Yuzu would also be justified. Now she just seems like a brat cause everyone around her is so supportive.

Oh I haven't read that chapter where Sumin explicitly says it. Well, that's actually some good writing in regards to how they explain why these characters are like this.

Is no one going to comment on the fact that Seju casually threw herself into a pool just to see if Dowon was going to save her? And Dowon asks no questions lol I am not sure why Team GJ believes that the path to healing from trauma and mental health problems lies in finding a romantic partner who accepts everything you do without calling you out, but they seriously think that.

I haven't read the new chapters, but that sounds lame af lol. Sounds like they're gonna pull another Sungji like

If Sumin had an inferiority complex that actually makes sense. But I also wonder, can a person like that function in a healthy way with someone they feel safe? Cause I always believed that if you have an issue, it will come out with everyone eventually. But I guess sometimes it also works.

And in real life what Seju, and maybe Sumin, needed is good psychotherapist and pills, not just sleeping pills and some island with hot girl, lol. But, yeah, it’s simple, nice story.

Both Seju and Sumin definitely could do with psychological help, but sadly it is South Korea which has quite a stigma towards mental health and has the second highest suicide rate in an OECD country.

That was always my big question with this story.
If both Seju and Sumin went for more than 10 years around this obsessive cycle, I find it pretty unrealistic how suddenly Sumin broke it when she found Sungji.
Seju still struggling is more realistic imo.

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Yesss more supernatural Yuri! I was getting bored with the slice of life stuff. I could read a story like this without the Yuri too. It looked so cool and interesting,especially that scene of Death's hand changing here
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_candle_for_the_grim_reaper#8

We'll see if this also get a solid and consistent plot, but it seems promising.

^Well that’s one point of view. Love can be to the end of the life, but it doesn’t mean there can be only one. New bonds do not work like replacements of others and they can be as deep. Like parallel or even intersecting lines in one heart. That’s why thou Sumin admits in one point that she still loves Seju, in the same time she loves and choses Sungji, because their bond bring completion for them. And Seju and Sumin bond is rotten, they needed to get out of it and they did. Because of that I don’t see why Seju can’t be protagonist, she complex character who can find better lifestyle and person to be with.

Yeah, I don't like this type of "love one and forever from kindergarten", lol. Life can be more complex than that and I wanna see it in fiction.

Yeah exactly a lot of people seem to think that the first person you fell in love with will be the person you end up with but that nearly never happens in real life.

I really don't like that first love from school trope either. But that's not the reason between Seju and Sumin.
Their story would be the same whether they met later or from school. Like, if Sumin fell in love with Sungji in highschool (if they were around same age) then dated Seju and then went back to Sungji with a very similar plotline like now.

What made them is not the fact that they were each other's first or they met in school

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Ah, right; I think the idea of only one soul mate is just a myth (we would have to prove souls even exist first lol). But there is definitely intense love, the one gut-felt where you have that magnetic obsessive attraction; the love you feel for someone when you really want to be in a relationship and they happen to be lovely, cute and there for you; the love you feel for someone when you are very compatible and thus rarely fight; the love you feel for someone when they really understand you and vice-versa etc.

Those are all flavours of love so to speak, but I would say the one depicted the most in fiction (and that maybe inspired Plato to create the soul mate myth) is the first one. And yes maybe because it happens to be mutual very rarely,

Exactly, you don’t know who you’re gonna end up with since there are millions of people out there that fit your “ideal,” so the one who makes it to you first and proves themselves is who you end up loving deeply.

But what if meeting that specific person out of the millions you're compatible with is what makes them special from the rest? Why meet them specifically, and not the other millions?
I don't believe the soul mate theory of two souls being half, but I also think that if something isn't meant to be it won't. Like how some people say meeting the right person in the wrong time.
Well, maybe that means this person wasn't the right after all.

I don't think this is worse than the original Citrus. They're the same. At this point the only way to read it is by seeing every chapter as independent, and not a cohesive story.
We will never see Mei and Yuzu do anything beyond kissing, although the story has gotten even worse at that compared to the beginning.

I only like the art and Harumi, and that's it lol. I actually think if the art wasn't as great, this wouldn't be so successful. But well, the characters independently are not boring too, but together they don't bring anything.

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Lol Yuzu still hasn't realized that Himeko has feelings for Mei

Not sure how this "not sexually into you" but in love works.
To me there are two options here. She's either in love with Itsuki but not sexually attracted to her, or she just wants someone to feed her ego and she knows she can get that from Itsuki because she's in love with her.
If the first is true, then I think they could make the sex part work. She can just be a pillow princess and that's it. Also if she's really in love with Itsuki then her desire to sleep with men won't be such an issue. Cause with women it's more of an emotional thing than purely sexual.
But maybe that's not always the case.

This seems like the second option though. Sex wouldn't be such a big issue for Mao if she was in love with Itsuki imo. She just seems to have this narcissistic need for someone to want her, while keeping them at a distance.
Regardless, I don't get how some people compare this to Renai (?the other fluff work of Kodama) and complain.
Fluff is overused to begin with, and we also need some stories who portray the other side of the story.
Just because the author writes about them, this doesn't mean she is trying to say gay relationships are like this.
This is similar to when a gay character dies in a series/movie and some say that it's because gay people can't have a happy ending etc. So are the authors supposed to never kill the gay characters or give them something to struggle with ever?