For how tame the series is I'm honestly surprised by the lewd nature of this official art heh

Is this what they meant by a Double Dragon porn parody?

Always happy to see more of the married reptiles here.

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That leg wrap is amazing.

X about to be eaten alive by her Alters.

It hurts.

This manga was shaky as hell in the first few chapters and it's going downhill again fast these last few chapters, but at least the middle parts with Ren and Ginno were cute. Maybe when this stupidity is sorted out, we'll get a decent few chapters at the end.

That is what amazes me the most about this manga. I really enjoyed all the character sduring that arc. I even thought Nanase was a good character helping them confess and not doing anything too bad with Momo. Then the author just decides to jump the shark and throw away logic and reason.

Right? It's really weird how the Aquarium date chapter and a couple chapters before it were honestly fine despite the incredibly shaky start, I thought hey the manga is improving and the author is learning! I guess not with these recent chapters though, the author for some reason did a swift swerve off the road and right off a fucking cliff haha

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

"What about Nanase's feelings? Have you ever even once considered how she feels? Because I definitely haven't."

1000% this and the other people saying it. Holy fuck the logic in this series is genuinely unbelievable and awful.

My belief is that mangaka generally suck at actually writing stories because they spend the time and effort that a novelist would put into writing, into developing their art instead. So I'm normally inclined, albeit reluctantly, to give some leeway to bad writing because being good at both art and writing is a big task. There's no excusing this nonsense r*** plot, though...

I think it's better to not generalize. There are plenty of mangaka that are good and even great at writing stories, and of course there are ones that aren't so good. There are also lots of amateur mangaka and novelists producing works, and ones that just do it casually for fun. Ultimately I think writing a story and a good one at that, or even just a decent one, is difficult in general. Regardless of if you're a novelist, mangaka, script writer, so fourth.

blackmails and rapes someone
"Why are you making me the bad guy?"

1000% this and the other people saying it. Holy fuck the logic in this series is genuinely unbelievable and awful.

I mean, why need futa... when clearly the tail gets all the action.

Exactly haha

A bit angsty, but still pretty cute overall. Thanks for the translation!

I wasn't expecting this to get translated, thanks a ton! <3

Just two gals being pals

Technically one should actually be futanari what with being (based on) a gastropod mollusk and all. Quoth Wikipedia: "like almost all heterobranchs, blue dragons are hermaphrodites and their male reproductive organs have evolved to be especially large and hooked to avoid their partner's venomous cerata."
-.-;
...welp, if that doesn't sound like fodder for the more disturbing kinds of h-doujins I don't know what does.

Personally I want plain old Yuri between these two, without penises. Nothing against Futa, and sometimes it can be fun to talk about or even see (like discussing some of the canon dick magic in Fate lol), but here I'll just think "based on" means "loosely based on" and there's no futa :P

Momo's problem is that her character is practically nonexistent, and the author has failed to properly give her a fleshed out personality so far.

yes very true

Also I don't think I've seen anyone "side" with Nanase? Unless I missed some comments. If you're referring to my comments, I'm not siding with either of them. I'm saying Nanase is in the wrong for her previous behavior, and Mary is also wrong for currently blackmailing Nanase and using it for the rape that's in the process. It's pointless to play the "whose worse" Olympics, and both of their actions should make you uncomfortable. I shouldn't have to say that blackmailing someone into sex and sexual activities is rape.

oh ok maybe i just read your post the wrong way. But i do think that there´s nothing inherently wrong with "karmic justice", people that does fucked up stuff have no simpaty from me and i think they deserve some kind of punishment

I think Mary is a poor introduction to the story, and the author should have used this time to do something like flesh out Momo's character more. I'm at this point repeating myself trying to make my points crystal clear.

i also agaree with this

Well I already made numerous posts explaining how there is no justice here. As I previously said, people are using "justice/karma" as an extremely poor excuse to enjoy a character they dislike being raped, in this case in the process of it. People can dislike a character and their actions, they can feel no sympathy for the character, but they can also be against rape.

There are many ways to punish someone and their actions, rape is not one of them and never will be. Also the amount of times I've seen people online try to justify rape as some kind of "punishment" honestly scares me.

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Forced cheating is the definition of NTR/netorare. What are you talking about ?

You can't cheat on someone you arent dating,

You can't deny it's a NTR like situation. You're just playing on words here.

i gree it´s clear to me that the author intention is to present a NTR like situation, the problem here is that i don´t fell like nanase and momo have any kind of meaningfull relationship to evoque that feeling, their relationship is so one sided that i honestly feel more unconfortable watching them than watching mary blackmailing nanase

i honestly don´t feel like momo has any kind of romantic feelings towards nanase right now, maybe if the author first developed their relationship and then introduce mary the situation could play as intended but right now it just feel like a cheap way to make momo fall for nanase

besides it´s beyond me how people can side with the character that some chapter ago was about to rape another one

Momo's problem is that her character is practically nonexistent, and the author has failed to properly give her a fleshed out personality so far. Also I don't think I've seen anyone "side" with Nanase? Unless I missed some comments. If you're referring to my comments, I'm not siding with either of them. I'm saying Nanase is in the wrong for her previous behavior, and Mary is also wrong for currently blackmailing Nanase and using it for the rape that's in the process. It's pointless to play the "whose worse" Olympics, and both of their actions should make you uncomfortable. I shouldn't have to say that blackmailing someone into sex and sexual activities is rape.

I think Mary is a poor introduction to the story, and the author should have used this time to do something like flesh out Momo's character more. I'm at this point repeating myself trying to make my points crystal clear.

Well, it wouldn't be Sal Jiang if you didn't go "Yikes!" at least once.
All things considered, not a bad oneshot at all.

#accurate

Yup in standard Sal Jiang fashion, characters that snap easily and take extreme actions.

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My problem here is that Momo's character is so frustratingly lacking, and it feels like can excuse that she can't communicate and act like a human being. Especially again because as I said it feels like authors doing this type of setup are fishing for the "karmic justice" type of response. The author is making a ridiculous and frustrating situation instead of doing something like making Momo be a character that can communicate properly. So her lack of character and communication skills are part of the problem. There's so many better ways to have gone about the relationship between Nanase and Momo, and a lot of better ways to address Nanase being a creep as well.

I agree with the last thing but for the rest... maybe im a bit sadistic after all, i dont like NTR stuff but the feeling of seeing someone like Nanase getting “karmic justice” is very attractive to me :( , well whats left is just wait and see if this triggers some kind of “development” for Momo

Well again this being labeled as "karmic justice" is something that bothers me, as I said before there is no justice happening here. I think people commonly try to dress up situations like this as "justice/karma", because trying to justify what's happening is more appealing than admitting that they like something gross. In this story Nanase's behavior during the sleepover was gross, and having another character about to rape her via blackmail is disgusting.

Ultimately it's a fictional story so I'm not trying to say people can't enjoy it, and I'm not saying the author shouldn't be allowed to write it. I simply don't like that people think the actions taken against Nanase in this chapter are justified.

Edit: There's the classic saying of "Two wrongs don't make a right".

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Where's the sequel where they get married?

Also thanks for the translation!

Well if everyone in the Harbor already thinks they're dating, they might as well just start dating for real.

The theory that if enough people believe in something that it becomes reality? Interesting.

Ah I mostly mean since the "cat is out of the bag" so to speak, they might as well just do it. Nothing to hide :P

Well if everyone in the Harbor already thinks they're dating, they might as well just start dating for real.

Aha! Taste your own medicine!

I honestly hate it when these types of setups get this kind of response, and it's something I feel like the author in these situations is fishing for.

Where they take one shitty character and then have another shitty character do the same thing to them that they've been doing, or worse. Then people will go "WHOOOOO KARMA!"

For me you just have two shitty characters now, and a shitty situation. Instead of a better solution, like say have Momo talk to Nanase and tell her that her actions aren't good, and set up boundaries for herself. Make Nanase realize her actions were wrong through communication.

Instead we currently have some NTR bullshit and it's set up as some kind of "karmic justice", despite just being gross and stupid. Justice is nowhere in this story.

Well, i could have shared that opinion with you if it wasn't that momo was presented as a MASSIVE AND SUBMISSIVE AIRHEAD that only leaves the “karmic justice” as the better option to make Nanase understand what she has been doing but whatever

My problem here is that Momo's character is so frustratingly lacking, and it feels like can excuse that she can't communicate and act like a human being. Especially again because as I said it feels like authors doing this type of setup are fishing for the "karmic justice" type of response. The author is making a ridiculous and frustrating situation instead of doing something like making Momo be a character that can communicate properly. So her lack of character and communication skills are part of the problem. There's so many better ways to have gone about the relationship between Nanase and Momo, and a lot of better ways to address Nanase being a creep as well.

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If she could in the later years just communicate that the manga made her fall in love with Yuri, and she would be her model again. Maybe things could progress forward?

Instead of this angsty ending that goes nowhere...and is fueled by lack of communication and the like.

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Nanase is being forced into a sexual situation against her will in front of the girl she loves, and Momo starts to react to Nanase being black mailed and stolen away at the end. It's 100% NTR, and one of the laziest NTR setups in the book.

If you're being forced you aren't cheating, so it isn't netorare.

And wtf with this chapter

NTR can commonly be forced "cheating" in front of a loved one. NTR is all forced, plain old cheating isn't NTR.

I say forced "cheating", because I agree it's not technically cheating. NTR largely revolves around the idea of being stolen away from a loved one, and/or having a loved one stolen away. Which is exactly what's happening in this situation. Nanase is being forced to perform sexual deeds with a blackmailer in front her loved one, while her loved one struggles to process what's happening. That is a very common NTR set up.

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does this even count as NTR? i mean is not like they´re dating or anything, it´s not like momo has shown any sing of being in love with nanase, she pretty much just puts up with nanase s requests and seems to be clueless about nanase s feelings

Nanase is being forced into a sexual situation against her will in front of the girl she loves, and Momo starts to react to Nanase being black mailed and stolen away at the end. It's 100% NTR, and one of the laziest NTR setups in the book.

Agreed, It's been one chapter and I already miss the wholesome senpais and such before Mary entered the picture. Might even save up some chapters so I can read all this bullshit in one go.

Yeah I feel like we're gonna be here for a couple or few chapters...and Mary isn't going to go away anytime soon.

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Aha! Taste your own medicine!

I honestly hate it when these types of setups get this kind of response, and it's something I feel like the author in these situations is fishing for.

Where they take one shitty character and then have another shitty character do the same thing to them that they've been doing, or worse. Then people will go "WHOOOOO KARMA!"

For me you just have two shitty characters now, and a shitty situation. Instead of a better solution, like say have Momo talk to Nanase and tell her that her actions aren't good, and set up boundaries for herself. Make Nanase realize her actions were wrong through communication.

Instead we currently have some NTR bullshit and it's set up as some kind of "karmic justice", despite just being gross and stupid. Justice is nowhere in this story.

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^Haha yeah that's what I mean, there's canon stuff that says it's possible for them to technically get each other pregnant. Gotta love magic :P