I'm a little disappointed that Sera's big investment in the the relationship is that, it just makes her life easier. However Kasumi, from Room for Two, acts the same way, and I've been told, very angerily by the fans on the series message board, that she and Sakurako are a happy couple and never question their relationship status again. So what do I know.

Eh I think in this one they genuinely care about each other in their own ways, and they're slowly growing closer over the course of it. However many people seem to think otherwise, and honestly I'm not going to debate it. I have my perspective and other people have their perspectives.

I have no doubt of that. After all this story has a Romance tag.

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I don't get it. Everybody seems to be pointing fingers here. It's Sera's fault! No it's Ruriko's fault! It's nobodies fault. Ruriko had stomach pain, and said she thought it was her period. Sera gave her medicine, and told her if it's starts hurting more let her know. Ruriko then went to work and felt better, but then took a dramatic turn for the worse afterwards. It looks like she collapsed. It's hard to get a hold of anybody after you collapse.

I'm a little disappointed that Sera's big investment in the the relationship is that, it just makes her life easier. However Kasumi, from Room for Two, acts the same way, and I've been told, very angerily by the fans on the series message board, that she and Sakurako are a happy couple and never question their relationship status again. So what do I know.

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I've heard that orgasms ease menstrual cramps. It looks like Ruriko's problem is more serious than bad p.m.s. though.

You are probably right, but I'm mostly exposed to it in manga, and anime. Plus the issues are so casually handled in manga, and anime. It's like the author just threw in a gag about a girl nearly raping her sleeping friend, before thinking better of it. Like that's hilarious. This series isn't even a shock and awe kind of comedy like Family Guy, or Archer, who whole point is to push the envelope.

I updated my previous comment with more information and thoughts, while you were probably typing your comment. I think a lot of the fucked-humor shows like Family Guy and Archer often handle their topics in a weirdly casual way, despite the shock and awe element you mentioned. Especially since some of the "jokes" are often done over and over, to the point that people become jaded to them. Also bringing up the discussion of the videos I linked, a lot of the "gags" about men being assaulted in Western media are said/done very casually, and it's extremely weird. So I don't think for a minute that it's just Japanese media that does it.

Edit: I haven't seen iCarly myself, but a popular comment on Part 1 of the videos I linked in my previous comment brings up iCarly as an example.

No argument here.. I've been saying for a while, a man beating on woman is a tragedy about abusive monster attacking an helpless woman. A woman beating on a man, comedy gold.
That goes for real life too. I once saw a magazine news show that staged two scenes one where a man was roughly trying to restraining a woman, and one where a woman was straight up beating on the man. Lots of people stepped in to help the woman. No one helped the man. Some women actually stopped and cheered the woman on.

I really don't get Nanase's thought process. I know she wants to do it with her but she hasn't confessed so obviously nothing is going to happen. Also she went too far, should not have kissed her and oh god what she did before that. Would wish manga would punish characters that do this stuff.

I was hoping Nanase would come to her senses, before she had gone too far, with the rape attempt. I'm weirdly okay with the kiss, though.
Let's face it, manga and anime seem to make light of issues, like sexual harassment, rape, and pedophilia, a lot.

That last sentence is too true and is probably why I am unphased by what happened and I am not dropping this. I just wish the characters like Nanase would feel more remose and regret it later and maybe try to become a better person that doesn't at best sexually harass their friends in their sleep. That's obviously not going to happen though so I am just going to enjoy Ren and Ginno's relationship and pretend like this chapter never happend.

It's not just manga and anime but media around the world. Nothing about 50 Shades of Gray is okay and the first movie made 570 million dollars world wide in the box office. That's ignoring the massive book sales and so fourth. There are so many books out there that people aren't even aware of that go into into fantasies that aren't okay in real life. Another example is 365 Days, a polish book trilogy written by a woman that was made into a film, and is slated for two more film sequels. It's something that people argue is an even worse Stockholm Syndrome and sexual abuse fantasy than 50 Shades of Gray. I have less than 0 interest in it, but it's still making money despite the very vocal hate against it, because many people enjoy fucked up fantasies.

My main point being is that I often see people that narrow their field of view to pointing the finger at Japan exclusively, when it's hardly just Japan and the entire world has a long, long, history of stories that are full of fucked up fantasies.

You are probably right, but I'm mostly exposed to it in manga, and anime. Plus the issues are so casually handled in manga, and anime. It's like the author just threw in a gag about a girl nearly raping her sleeping friend, before thinking better of it. Like that's hilarious. This series isn't even a shock and awe kind of comedy like Family Guy, or Archer, who whole point is to push the envelope.

I'm actually a bit surprised that people are so worked up over Nanase's behavior. As I mentioned before, It's par for the course, in manga. When I read it, I rolled my eyes, and sardonically thought "I guess what's a little rape between friends". And I'm pretty sure the author just thought it would be funny.

Is chu suppose to be onomatopoeia for a kiss? If so I don't get it.

The announcement on the credit page, There's a main story??? I thought it was just of loosely related random scenes out of the girls lives.

I really don't get Nanase's thought process. I know she wants to do it with her but she hasn't confessed so obviously nothing is going to happen. Also she went too far, should not have kissed her and oh god what she did before that. Would wish manga would punish characters that do this stuff.

I was hoping Nanase would come to her senses, before she had gone too far, with the rape attempt. I'm weirdly okay with the kiss, though.
Let's face it, manga and anime seem to make light of issues, like sexual harassment, rape, and pedophilia, a lot.

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Nanase is a Momosexual.

Oh well.

... how are so many writers bad at endings? Is it really that difficult? Must be.

I agree ending must be hard to write well. Not just manga and anime, but all ending. I wasn't the only one disappointed that Pennywise turned out to be just some giant interdimensional spider. The latest movie did an okay job selling it though.

Just when the story looks like it's going to take a dark turn, we get a happy, and very cute resolution.
Look I know what Kase did was a whole hell of a lot of wrong. However, a handsome famous guy offering rides, and giving flowers to your girlfriend, come on now. Add in the fact Yamada is letting him use her given name, when Kase herself is still calling Yamada by her family name... To paraphrase comedian Chris Rock, I don't condone what Kase did, but I understand.

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Friends!?
FRIENDS!?!
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!
I WANT YURI LOVE'IN DAMNIT!!!
If I wanted an ambiguously close female friendship, with yuri undertones I could have stuck with mainstream mangal
But, it was cute. I'm not mad I followed it.

I challenge any manga artist that see this post. Please draw a Die Hard manga with a cat woman Version of John McClane.

Literal walls of text and also Futa...

No, thanks.
Same, it wouldn't be better if she was raped by guys either.
I kinda bet the demon girl also has a penis so I kinda don't understand the usage of a yuri tag here if whole content of this is an omegaverse play where girls are fucked by futanari girls.

I also feel that omegaverse isn't yuri, with the possible exception of a two female bata, or a two female omega pairing.

If you had trouble figuring out what was going on then you should try actually reading it is incredibly obvious.

"Try actually reading it".

Yeah...good luck with that. The writing was often largely all over the place.

Okay do me a solid then. Give an idea where to look. outside of the shopkeep saying something that implied the demonkind girl was getting a hard-on, I saw nothing stating overtly that she was futa.

I'm pretty sure that's a dong on page 15 bottom right, but I really had to look for it and didn't notice it anywhere else

Nope, sorry. I'm not seeing a dong. I will say that position does suggest she has one though.

Is this the forth, or fifth twitter series, with a mistress and maid romance?

Mostly the same creator of each mini series. I also follow the creator on Twitter and the Maid/Mistress dynamic is very much their regular jam, as someone else said I'm definitely not complaining. If people like such a dynamic this artist is someone to follow, if people don't then they're better off avoiding the artist.

But it's pretty much just the same story over and over again though. Right? It would be like, if the person who made Die Hard made another Die Hard exactly the same, but this time John McClane was a cat guy, and another where he was a loli goth vampire.

And? Is there a problem? I'd personally watch John McClane as a cat guy, and another where he's a loli goth vampire. Those sound hilariously amazing to me. There's a lot of action movies that are incredibly similar, hell we're on a manga website that focuses on romance, and romance are often incredibly similar just with minor variations like you're mentioning.

This author is making what they like, people are free to consume it if they also like it or they're free to ignore the author if they don't. Nobody is being forced to their works. So far I've enjoyed all of their works, and I don't see that changing any time soon. I know exactly what to expect from this author, and they deliver every time.

Okay John McClane as a cat guy would be cool, or better yet a cat woman. I'll pass on the loli goth vampire McClane, though.

If you had trouble figuring out what was going on then you should try actually reading it is incredibly obvious.

"Try actually reading it".

Yeah...good luck with that. The writing was often largely all over the place.

Okay do me a solid then. Give an idea where to look. outside of the shopkeep saying something that implied the demonkind girl was getting a hard-on, I saw nothing stating overtly that she was futa.

Is this the forth, or fifth twitter series, with a mistress and maid romance?

Mostly the same creator of each mini series. I also follow the creator on Twitter and the Maid/Mistress dynamic is very much their regular jam, as someone else said I'm definitely not complaining. If people like such a dynamic this artist is someone to follow, if people don't then they're better off avoiding the artist.

But it's pretty much just the same story over and over again though. Right? It would be like, if the person who made Die Hard made another Die Hard exactly the same, but this time John McClane was a cat guy, and another where he was a loli goth vampire.

Like neckbiting isn't hot as hell??

It totally is imo, but I can understand why some might not like it with the blood.

That's it exactly. It's my blood and you can't have it!

Yuri and futa in the same place first time i see that

I'm not sure where the futa was.

That was a lot of of words.

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Zanka must have a huge mistress and maid fetish. I'm not fond of romanticising vampires, or sexualizing drinking blood.

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Is this the forth, or fifth twitter series, with a mistress and maid romance?

I like Crecent Moon and Doughnuts but I must admit I can't say I saw the connection. CM&D is more focused on the deepening bond between the main characters. Seiko seems to be throwing herself into husband hunting and food in a desperate attempt to avoid her feelings.
I understand that social pressure makes this story realistic, but it's frustrating to read. For Seiko to have her heart race over Nagisa one moment and in the next skip off to another date and to have that happen chapter after chapter with no real sign of development is just infuriating. Add in the fact that I'm not guaranteed the satisfying yuri hookup that would make this all worthwhile, I'm not sure I want to bother with it.

I mean, I fully agree that this story is frustrating to read. Seiko is just extremely dishonest to the point that lying to others and herself has basically become the norm for her. She is overall just not a very likeable character I think. The fact that she is realistic doesn't really change that I for me either.
Also, with the Storia tags being as they are, I am not particularly optimistic about the future of the series. But I'll probably still keep an eye out for it and check back occasionally before deciding to continue reading or drop it.

Regarding the CM&D parallel, I didn't mean they are similiar in the actual story, but rather in the initial setup of their main characters. Just like Seiko, Hinako is trying her best to be an ideal, "normal" woman, which in Japan automatically means marriage as well. The difference between the two is that CM&D clearly shows how Hinako is suffering from this, which then leads to great character development as her relationship with Satou makes her increasingly more confident and able to find her own path in life. In a sense, Hinako and Seiko therefore show two ways of dealing with the same problem, one builds meaningful relationships and learns to accept herself as she is, whilst the other basically completely denies who she even is and completely dives into escapism. Maybe that is what makes Seiko so frustrating as well, because there is no sense of progress whatsoever.

Well you and I are pretty much in agreement.

This story is filled with annoying stuff like husband hunting for status and profit, girls playing "love games" at an all girl school, and Nagisa's crappy taste in boyfriends. After Kirin-kun informed me that the story is going to spin its wheels for at least another 5 chapters, and still not guaranteed to have a satisfying ending, I'm not sure I can stick with it.

I think it's annoying too, although not really unrealistic in Japanese society. Pressure on women to conform to some sort of stupid feminine ideal is pretty high after all. Still don't really like Seiko as a character, I can sympathise that society made her the way she is, but at some point you become complicit and she definitely shows some of the worst aspects of Japanese womanhood.
Crescent Moon and Doughnuts is a series that actually kind of starts with the same premise, but has a much more sympathetic main character and nice development. At the moment, this series feels like a more depressing and (so far at least) overall worse version of Crescent Moon.

Also, apart from the Yuri tag I am not yet sure about I'd like to also mention that Storia has this series tagged as Psychological Horror I don't think what was released so far qualifies for that, so maybe it's supposed to get only darker down the line?

I like Crecent Moon and Doughnuts but I must admit I can't say I saw the connection. CM&D is more focused on the deepening bond between the main characters. Seiko seems to be throwing herself into husband hunting and food in a desperate attempt to avoid her feelings.
I understand that social pressure makes this story realistic, but it's frustrating to read. For Seiko to have her heart race over Nagisa one moment and in the next skip off to another date and to have that happen chapter after chapter with no real sign of development is just infuriating. Add in the fact that I'm not guaranteed the satisfying yuri hookup that would make this all worthwhile, I'm not sure I want to bother with it.

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