Honestly it's always felt strange to me that the same-sex love stories that I'm supposed to get immersed in and believe always feature so little homophobia in them. From a literary standpoint its an interesting change of pace that I'm enjoying reading.

I feel like the reaction that we got in the comments is a perfect reason why most gay love stories don’t have homophobia in them…

People in the comments get mad from seeing it, they get mad if it’s not handled in a way they like, they get mad and assume the author is a homophobe because of the scene or because of how the resolution is written.

He didn’t even say he was against them cuz they’re women, like another person said, “He clearly said that his concerns were merely over the protection and happiness of his daughter”

For some folks, anything short of immediate declarations of support is homophobia and homophobes should die, and if the author has a character who expresses homophobic views/talking points, the author must be a homophobe as well.

Even having a decent reason to not support the relationship, like “I won’t be able to protect you if something goes wrong, I don’t want you to get hurt” makes someone a bigot.

When it comes to sensitive topics, some ppl will get mad at anything if it’s not an opinion they agree with or if they don’t like how it’s presented (which, even if it was presented in the best of ways, there’s still gonna be ppl upset) and some of these same people immediately jump to extremes

If I was a yuri writer, I’d avoid the hassle by removing the homophobia aspect entirely.

If I’m writing yuri, I simply just wanna write a cute love story between women. I’d rather avoid doing something to piss people off, cuz I don’t want to get harassed, and I don’t wanna deal with ppl slandering me by calling me a homophobe and a bigot cuz those terms could be a turn off to potential readers

I’d either have to just decide that I’m not gonna care about readers getting offended and write however I want, or stick with something simple

I’m sure some stories do have homophobia as a plot device but I don’t think I’ve seen any of those stories here

Also, enjoying reading about struggles involving homophobia doesn't make one a bigot, unless you're going to sit there and tell me that enjoying To Kill A Mockingbird makes someone racist.

I feel like there are some people who unironically think enjoying this stuff as a narrative makes you a bigot

It's either promoting a bad message, or insensitive of the author. Internalized homophobia is a possible, and probably optimistic considering the alternatives, explanation of why the author might have no issue painting this outcome as a good one in the story she writes.

It’s not fair to just make negative implications about the author based on how they portray an issue in the story. It could easily just be that they wanted the readers to know the girls can have bio kids and they didn’t think about how someone could get upset with that

And to make it obvious : few people are going to be happy reading a story that sends the message "the kind of relationship you're in is okay but only because of [reasons that don't apply to you]".

You say it yourself,

“And this story isn't a a "this is a cynical and dark irony world" where a bitter compromise would be the expected outcome of conflicts”

So it’s silly to make these assumptions when first of all, we don’t know the author. I doubt you know their socials, or seen their other works (do they have other stuff??) or have any other “proof” that paints them as a homophobe other than you taking this scene in the worse light possible

What you’re doing is making assumptions about the author based on how you interpret a scene in the story and essentially implying that there’s a non zero chance that the author is an internalized homophobe for presenting the resolution to a conflict in a way that can be taken negatively

It’s so very clearly not a serious series, YOU even acknowledge this, so I can’t fathom how you don’t just give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume they didn’t think about the potential negative implications.

you’re actively trying to see things in a negative light just from this ONE scene. I doubt an actual homophobe (which you imply the author could be one) would spend time writing a story about two women getting together, having it be adapted into a webcomic (web series?), with the end goal of them getting together.

Is this a common thing or smthn? Yuri writers actually hating gay ppl?? What precedent was set that makes the author being a homophobe a more logical assumption than them just not thinking how negatively the interaction can be interpreted

Pain

How old is MC? Same age or younger?

Mc should be around 18-23~ i dont remember it being specifically stated in the manhua. I'm just guessing since she is in college

Ty

I actually can't recall a single other stepmother/daughter yuri series. I'm kind of hooked for that reason alone, but the drawings are pretty nice too.

Albino and witch are kinda like… that?

It's not bad writing, just silly. The author is hitting the target they're aiming for, not the one you want lol.
Also lmao @ that poster saying MC should apologize to her dumb bf for "cheating". Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

It is bad writing cuz of how silly it is. It being super silly is just a signal to the reader that we shouldn’t take this manga seriously, as it’s not even taking itself seriously (or something)

...That was actually a pretty smooth rejection.

…smooth like butter…

You’re still making assumptions about the author based on what a character says in the story tho and essentially implying that there’s a non zero chance that the author holds these views when there’s other explanations to why the dad could be written this way

You're right. I'm sorry.

It’s fine, as long as you understand and refrain from making assumptions like this in the future. :D

Whatever happened to the love potion?

Even love potions need a vacation

Sorry but I'm Not Into Yuri > blue lock [season 2]

Fixed it for ya

I literally cheered when I saw this was updated!

Thank you!

Flat is justice!

smh damn, this author is 1000% way to into high school girls cause how do you draw the teachers ass so details but then insult that same ass and then mention her age as the reasoning.
Acting like it isn't the fact that one exercise and is more physically active than the other. But eh, what do I expect from a mostly het and lolicon male artist.

This is a manga with “fetish notebook” in the title.

99% of the characters being fetishized are high schoolers.

What are you yappin bout?

Also, given the fact that the comment came from a high schooler, it kinda makes sense why she’d say that (also it literally IS true. Age + not exercising)

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“Also, from what I can tell... she smells like one of my kind.”

What?

If I was a hot woman, I would soo be doing that to high-school girls too

What

“I sensed NTR nearby!” Is craaaazy

Seems like this mangaka has been interested in rapey stuff recently, with this chapter and that one-shot.

Bro really pulled an SAO move, huh? :/

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One hit wonder ig?

Wait… Suuna successfully lied?? She’s always sucked ass at lying, right??

Why did the witch woman healing convince Hanako witches are real, but Sada floating did not?

Cuz she prolly waved it off as her using string or small jets to make her look like she was floating?

Seeing someone get healed is harder to BS out of

Why would you jump straight to internalized homophobia when the much more like "this character is clearly portrayed to be wrong with this opinion and is smth to be overcome by the protagonists" is right there.

What I'm offering is only an explanation to a possiblilty. I don't mean to say "yes the author believe this", I mean to say "if it is true then this may be the cause".

You’re still making assumptions about the author based on what a character says in the story tho and essentially implying that there’s a non zero chance that the author holds these views when there’s other explanations to why the dad could be written this way

1. Further showing that the Dad is over protective and is coming up with excuses cuz he doesn’t want to “give up” his daughter

2. A way to inform the reader that the two girls could have magic children

3. Introduces the reader to the idea that not everyone is going to be 100% accepting and that we should be ready to possibly see some of that become a conflict in the story

4. Having a “goal” to work towards in the story. The going from dad being reluctant to accept their relationship to fully endorsing it and trusting Elsa to take care of Evie for life would be cool to see story wise + character development + as said earlier, he’s overprotective, so his hesitation is in character

Conflict is interesting + idk bout y’all, but the whole “even if the whole world is against us, I’ll be with you always” is a romantic sentiment/cliche. This kind of conflict is just another way for the author to demonstrate Evie and Elsa’s devotion for each other.

I get that but people don't generally like spoilers posted in that way, although as you said it's not consistent. If you want to get out your thoughts as they come, you could post your comment as a word document or a note on your phone and copy/paste it here once the translation for that chapter shows up. That way you get your thoughts in order, clear your head and have less disgruntled comments coming your way.

That’s smart. I’ll do that for the final chapter.

How was this posted on the 7th when it’s still the 6th?? (Is this a timezones thing??)

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Or you could have wait. It's not like the team is inactive or slow.

And I never said that they were.

Idk what’s wrong with wanting to check, maybe spoiling it isn’t cool (I’ve seen other comments spoiling the next chapters before) but I’d rather have clearer expectations, get my grievances over with as soon as possible, so I’m not upset when all the worse tropes in existence are used.

Like, I know I’m more invested than I should be, I know I care more than I should. If I get it out now, I won’t have a lot to say later.

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I think this was the biggest salty wall of text I've seen so far on these forums lmao

I’m sorry, but that was the cheesiest, most obvious romantic set up that Yuzu pushing Minami away, thinking they’ll never be tighter romantically, is sooooo frustrating. You don’t lean in to kiss your friend on the lips, ever— and Minami was clearly aiming for her lips— unless you like them in a romantic way.

... I will say, I don't understand why people have this concept of someone not deserving to be in a relationship just because they didn't follow the correct song and dance in order to reach it :P

Because Yuzu PUSHED Minami away when she was trying to kiss her. That’s blatant rejection. It’s not that Yuzu isn’t following the right steps— she’s actively pushing herself away from Minami, actively trying to remain friends, and actively against the idea of them dating. Yuzu 100% isn’t ready for a relationship.

There is absolutely zero indication that Minami gives a shit about Kamiya romantically, there is plenty of evidence she still feels that way about Yuzu.

In the same way Minami hasn’t shown romantic interest in Kamiya, you could also say that Yuzu hasn’t shown any evidence of wanting to be in a relationship with Minami. She’d rather be friends to the point she refuses to accept the possibility of Minami liking her back.

If Yuzu is proactively shutting down the idea of them getting together in a situation where she literally had to do NOTHING in order for Minami’s intentions to be made clear, I don’t see how Minami saying “I love you romantically, please be my girlfriend” is going to be taken at face value.

Unless the confession chapter is basically Minami asserting that her feelings are in fact, romantic in nature until Yuzu understands that—
which, in Minami’s POV, Yuzu’s constant avoiding reality could easily be taken as indirect rejection; Yuzu wanting to remain friends and trying to casually turn Minami down to give her the opportunity to run away or backtrack (which is literally what is happening)
—I don’t see how they’ll get together. Yuzu is just too stubborn.

For those curious, I looked through ch. 27 raws;

BAD NEWS

We have to wait til Ch 28 for the confession. Minami is about to confess AGAIN or she literally DID say it, and it’s another cliff hanger for Yuzu’s reaction.

Also,

GOOD NEWS

The pandas were in fact, cute.

More of my ranting;

I honestly, didn’t even mind the “will they won’t they” thing up until this chapter and last chapter. That was the PERFECT moment for them to get together, and Yuzu literally didn’t have to do anything. It’s low-key frustrating for me, seeing Minami reach out AGAIN after initially being rejected, YUZU shouldve been the one to reach out.
Idk if the plan was to only have 28 chapters or if the author planned to make the series longer, and have a character tell Yuzu, straight up, that Minami has feelings for her, and Yuzu is the one who confesses and apologizes and tries to win Minami over, cuz that’s literally the only thing that’d save the ending for me.
Ideally, they don’t get together, because Yuzu messed up to the point where SHE needs to be the one to actually take a risk. At this point, even if Minami blatantly says, “I love you, please be my girlfriend” it’d be more in character for Yuzu to go, “Girl friend? We’re already girl friends! HA! HA! HA!” Cuz if almost getting kissed on the LIPS makes her think she has no chance, that them getting together is IMPOSSIBLE, I don’t see how a few words would be enough to convince her when friends can and have said stuff like “i love you”.
No friend says “I want you” that just doesn’t happen— and if it DOES, it’s ironic, and the person saying “I want you” makes it clear they’re joking— which isn’t even the kind of dynamic these two have.
Yuzu is in denial. She’s given up hope to the point she doesn’t even WANT to be with Minami.
I really wanted them to get together, but Yuzu literally pushed Minami away. Minami is the one who’s putting herself on the line, putting in so much effort. Minami is giving, giving, giving, and Yuzu isn’t giving back. She doesn’t WANT to give back. She doesn’t want to lose her friend. She doesn’t want change.