Cute stuff like this is exactly why Miyuki x Yuri should have prevailed in the end... but, really, I'm glad that it at least ended with canon yuri.

This is that Puella Magi Mika girl and Rivalun-expy, right? ... You know, Gamma had its flaws, but having Japanese female Iron Man, the Power Rangers, a puella magi, and Rivalun in the same series was so awesome.

I don't think there were any scenes this lewd in Gamma, but, I mean, the female characters were practically half naked all the time. I liked it and all but, frankly, it made it pretty hard to take it seriously at all... oh, why can't there be any action yuri things out there that aren't borderline porn (I'm looking at you, VALKYRIE DRIVE... If I had a Vita, I'd probably buy it though...)

Who's this Discharge person again? You know, perhaps, Yuri's like me and just completely forgot about it! I'd agree that it just came out of nowhere though... Yuri x Miyuki would have been a hell of a lot better in my opinion but oh well.

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Mofuuuurun

Where is your avatar from? i can't seem to remember :[

I believe it's from one of Mira's things, Morishita and Arai's Romance: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/morishita_and_arais_romance

Wow, Mofurun turning into Ted... That's not something I was expecting.

Can't decide if she is seeing the yuri or just glad Ayari is opening up to her "sister".

Why not both?

Probably because it's not yuri.

Yuuna x Tougou is the best, but I too thought that Karin had a bit of a crush on Yuuna. I hope that whatever this anime reaches the logical conclusion and has every girl in the show fall for Yuuna.

Also, yeah, I know I probably shouldn't question poses in still images, but... how the hell did they ever get in a pose like this?

So, just watched Flip Flappers. While I admit that I'm a bit disappointed that Papikana is not the father,=... well, you can't beat ==MATCHING. WEDDING. DRESSES. Who knows, though, Salt literally has not shown any concern at all for Cocona in the entire series, so maybe 3Hz will do something weird. Yeah, it's not gonna happen, but, if it did, that'd kind of completely fuck over Papika x Cocona if it happened... eh, I'd still ship it.

Hey, Takoyaki Shirt Kid Guy makes another appearance! Still convinced that he is actually Kotooka, but I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens! Probably for a ridiculously long time since it's one of those overblown drama series, but... eh, I still enjoy it.

Yes_Cantaloupe posted:

Oh, it's more shippy with a male MC? I'd assumed it was the same, since it was pretty dang shippy with the feMC.

Yeah, there's only one spot I know of where the dialogue changed, though I can't recall off the top of my head where I saw comparison screenshots showing it.

I think you're referring to this scene? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/5gz478/lillies_dialogue_during_the_exeggutor_island_rain/

I haven't been able to play Sun or Moon since I'm poor and I can't afford a 3DS (and yet I browse the Pokemon subreddit frequently for some reason...), but some people in that thread are saying that Lillie said the "male dialogue" to their female MC. Perhaps the line she says is determined by some other factor?

I wonder if that White Lily Ward thing is a reference to Nurse Love Addiction?

Also, "The finals went horribly for both of us. But I have no regrets." Would I love to have a personality like that!

I mean, if Mimika is in love with a little girl, I think that she is, by definition, a lolicon... unless she actually is an older girl pretending to be younger. That would kind of defeat the whole purpose of this thing in my opinion but, oh well, I'm sure it'll still be good regardless.

You know, in the end Blizzard played it safe. Almost disappointingly so.

Unless they introduce in game interactions making reference to Emily, the whole thing won't be nothing more than a footnote in the great scheme of the things, much other elements introduced already on the comics (does anyone remember or cares about Phara's squad mates?)

Something really impressive would've been to actually reveal Tracer's orientation by making her be in a relationship with another hero. Or hell, they would've simply gone the Bioware route and made everyone potencial romantic interests so the audience could've picked whichever they like the most.

I mean, I see your point, but, functionally, that's is pretty much the same thing as revealing that she's in a relationship with another hero. It's just gonna be revealed in a comic or a short and then completely forgotten about afterward. Still, I would like to see some quotes referencing Emily, and I'm sure Blizzard will throw them in at some point. You know, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't any heroes say anything explicit about romantic stuff. They might imply stuff, sure, but they don't actually say anything... well, Tracer's the only one so far with an actual named romantic interest, so I'm hoping that she'll reference her at some point.

Certainly, men can write great yuri, but the problem is that they usually... don't. I was so excited for Valkyrie Drive at first. I mean, Soul Eater with lesbians? COUNT ME IN! Yeah, it was made by the people behind Senran Kagura, so I wasn't expecting much... but, it turned out to be pretty much borderline porn. There is so much that can be done with a concept like that and it was completely ruined...

But, yeah, all of Mujieda Fuyabi's (that's how I tried to spell it at first, anyway, but it's really Fujieda Miyabi) works are awesome, Prism and Sasameki Koto are great (as you mentioned), Hoshikawa Ginza District was great (though I think that blackmail strip photo thing which was completely ignored afterward is a pretty glaring sign that a dude wrote it...)... hmm, I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of now.

Yeah, I hear ya. Was not a big fan of VD either...

Not everyone is going to agree, but I love Kunihiko Ikuhara & much of his contribution to yuri, even YKA.

Oh yeah, I loved YKA. I still haven't watched Utena or Penguindrum (I don't think this is yuri but not sure) yet, but I definitely need to some time soon.

... You know, I really derailed this thread, so I'd like to get it back on track. Uh, well, the "different cup sizes" thing is yet another example of why yuri written by women is just better. I never really noticed that Sayaka apparently has a bigger chest than Touko, but that's a testament to the lack of sexualization in this manga! Or a testament to my ignorance of chest size, I guess, I don't know. Thought it was pretty funny that Sayaka's gaze was immediately drawn to the boobs while Yuu's gaze was immediately drawn to the legs... Also, that play looks awesome, I can't wait for the play chapter to come out.

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@minutoh I totally understand where you're coming from & I agree with your view to some extent. I, too, do tend to believe that women, in general, write more natural yuri since they know how to depict their own gender's emotions and experiences better. Tho I also think that some males can do great yuri, too, without turning it into mindless fanservice ^_^

Certainly, men can write great yuri, but the problem is that they usually... don't. I was so excited for Valkyrie Drive at first. I mean, Soul Eater with lesbians? COUNT ME IN! Yeah, it was made by the people behind Senran Kagura, so I wasn't expecting much... but, it turned out to be pretty much borderline porn. There is so much that can be done with a concept like that and it was completely ruined...

But, yeah, all of Mujieda Fuyabi's (that's how I tried to spell it at first, anyway, but it's really Fujieda Miyabi) works are awesome, Prism and Sasameki Koto are great (as you mentioned), Hoshikawa Ginza District was great (though I think that blackmail strip photo thing which was completely ignored afterward is a pretty glaring sign that a dude wrote it...)... hmm, I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of now.

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"Correction: Tracer is shown being kissed by another woman, who she appears to be living with."

What?? I can understand a reaction like this if Emily was forcing a kiss on her, but this kiss is CLEARLY NOT FORCED. AT ALL. IN ANY WAY. GOD, I WANT TO MAKE A POLYGON ACCOUNT JUST TO REPLY TO THIS IDIOT BUT AT THE SAME TIME... NAH, I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE IT...

That's true, but I'd say even if a straight woman does write yuri, they'd probably still know more about women than men. And, yeah, sorry if that thing's a bit daunting... I'm not trying to argue, just trying to justify my (frankly, quite stupid) belief.

I dunno, look at all the women who write yaoi....

....

......okay, that kinda proves your point.

You know, I never did really like yaoi since that whole seme/uke dynamic kinda creeps me out, especially with the more feminine one usually being the seme and the more masculine one usually being the uke... was it the other way around? (Yaoi without that stuff is pretty great though). Well, anyway, that kind of irks me a bit, and I feel like yaoi written by dudes or, even better, gay dudes would be a lot more realistic than that stuff. That being said, I'm pretty sure Prunus Girl was written by a woman, and I love that manga so much, especially since Aikawa's the more assertive one in their relationship.

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Wow that's huge. Uh, I don't have an opinion/don't want to argue/I'm tired but I do want to reply to this line:

I feel that lesbians would know more about lesbian relationships than some random dude would.

Yeah probs, but then again, we were just like, talking about female/male writers earlier. A lot of women write yuri, but as to the authors' own sexual orientation, well, women who write yuri aren't necessarily gay.

That's true, but I'd say even if a straight woman does write yuri, they'd probably still know more about women than men. And, yeah, sorry if that thing's a bit daunting... I'm not trying to argue, just trying to justify my (frankly, quite stupid) belief.

I wonder what Sombra's doing in that bar with McCree... maybe it's just a coincidence or a convenient way to jam them both into one panel, but there's something fishy about this...

Well, it's just that, as a dude, I feel that lesbians would know more about lesbian relationships than some random dude would. Sure, just because an author doesn't have personal experience with something doesn't necessarily mean that it's gonna be bad (ie: Sasameki Koto, Amber Teahouse), but I like the authenticity that writing about something with which you have personal experience adds, you know? Romance is romance no matter the gender of the people involved, but there are those little things that men wouldn't really know about... of course, since I am a dude, I can't really tell what they are (though, really, hanging around here for so long has taught me a few of those things...), so I just assume all the little things are little things that men wouldn't know about. Like... take Bright and Cheery Amnesia with its wonderful "INDIRECT BRA-ING" scene. Would that scene have been the same if it a guy who didn't know the distinction between different types of bras (like me) wrote it? ... Yeah, it would have been, so that's probably not a good manga to choose. Hmm... Flip Flappers then? I don't think a male writer would have known as much as whoever wrote it did (I'm hoping that the main writer is female so I can prove my point) about Class S yuri and how bad it is... plus, there's the nail clipper scene! I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an innuendo or not, but that's how I'm interpreting it, damn it.

Also, I admit that I'm pretty biased and I assume that every yuri thing made by men is inherently more fanservice-y than yuri made by women. I mean, compare Valkyrie Drive to anything written by Takemiya Jin. Of course, women have written many fanservice-y yuri manga as well, such as Sakura Trick and Mira's stuff, but... well, even Mira's manga have a decent plot while her stuff written by a dude would have a shitty plot or just jump right into the sex. But, really, I think women have more right to include yuri fanservice-y stuff than a man does. It feels less... lecherous, I guess. Certainly, I'd say the reverse holds true too; men have more of a right to include yaoi fanservice-y than women do. That's not really that common though, is it? (You know, speaking of men and yaoi, are there any popular yaoi manga/anime that are written by a dude? I would certainly love to read/watch it). But, well, this is just my own preconceived biases coming to play, and I accept fully that I'm being ridiculously irrational...

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You know, does this comic really prove that Genji/Mercy is a thing? I mean, I don't think it's entirely unreasonable that a dude could be sending a letter to the woman who saved his life without it being romantic.

Also, WOO, am I glad that I was active to see a gay reveal thing happening! Posting overnecessarily snarky replies to homophobes pretty much gives my life meaning.

This was so unexpected and exciting that I ended up hurting myself. Ouuuch... well, anyway, it's nice that Blizzard didn't back out and finally revealed their LGBT character! More than one would be nice, but, eh, it's better than nothing, I guess.

I'm kind of irrationally disappointed to learn that Nakatani Nio is male, but, oh well...

How did you come to that conclusion?

Hmm, I probably jumped to conclusions a bit. Randomly searching something on Google then reading one sentence of the first thing that comes up is never a good idea! Anyhow, it's quite nice to know that she isn't male.