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I feel.. I’m wondering if I’m thinking too hard on this. But, Okay she died of alcohol poisoning, then was reincarnated..three years into the past, which places her two years After she broke up with Jing Xiu, which means her other self hasn’t died yet and her ex gf hasn’t gotten married, but her other self is still alive? I did say that correctly right? Because my brain is in a spiral right now.

Not reincarnated, just sent back in time. Think of it like she reloaded an old save file.

Honestly, the framing device seems kind of pointless for this story? It seems like this could have just been a story about a woman who regrets breaking up trying to get back together with her ex. The supernatural element doesn't really add much.

Well, bisexuals do exist. As well as arranged marriages and marriages of convenience. Family pressure to marry could also play a role, along with a comphet society. Won’t know the reason until later I’m sure. We also don’t know why they broke up yet.

Family pressure and comphet are also a much bigger factor in China. People in modern western countries are a bit spoiled when it comes to issues of tolerance.

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Ah, okay, it seems pretty clear now that Kageko knows exactly what cumming is, she was just trying to coax Sakurako into saying naughty things.

(Regarding MBTI—) The author mentioned that Kageko is an INFJ, which I can see in certain situations. But I also see INFP tendencies in her. With Sakurako, I’d type her as an ENFJ.

Uuuuuuh... What?

They're referencing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator

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And even if she didn't know about orgasms...

I mean...

She literally JUST HAD ONE. She even described it as "something is coming" Wouldn't you think she could figure it out from context?

I'm 100% sure she knows about orgasms lol. What im thinking is she doesn't know whatever the japanese slang equivelant for 'cumming' is that Sakurako used.

The japanese slang equivalent is いっちゃう or いく, which mean literally "I'm going" and "I'm coming" respectively. I'm pretty sure the line where she said "something is coming" would have used いく as the relevant verb.

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What, did a bunch of 5th graders have field trip to Dynasty or something?

It's just sarcasm, my dude. Probably should've mentioned, come to think of it.

Eh, I can appreciate that you didn't mean actual harm, but keep in mind tone doesn't carry in text, and using slurs sarcastically only works if everybody that hears you knows you well enough to know that you're being sarcastic. It's a good idea to avoid jokes like that. The odds of you accidentally hurting or pissing somebody off aren't worth it.

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Leaving the misogynist language issue by the wayside, I wanted to address this point, because a couple people have said something to this effect:

Still it was pretty stupid to have let a degenerate into her house.

They don't wear signs for crissakes. That's the whole problem. Predators are usually pretty practiced at blending with society. Criticizing someone for getting fooled by one is literal victim-blaming, and it's really, really shitty.

The measure of her qualities as a parent isn't her ability to magically sense pedophiles, it's how she responds when she finds out about one, and she absolutely reacted accordingly.

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How did Kageko know about sex but not about orgasms?

And even if she didn't know about orgasms...

I mean...

She literally JUST HAD ONE. She even described it as "something is coming" Wouldn't you think she could figure it out from context?

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So are we gonna talk about Ai, wearing high heels on a steep hill, scooping up Misumi like she weighs nothing?

It's the Power Of Love™.

Ba da padapa dapada pa da ba DUM BUM THE POWWWWER OF LOVE, is a curious thing.....

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Sigh.. I hate the “let’s take a break/break up for X amount of time” trope. I also disagree that over a year of separation isn’t a big deal. Life is too short.

At least in this case it is a deliberate ruse, I feel like this usually shakes out where they actually break up and then come back together after the dust has settled.

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Rules of nature dictate that there will be blood when standing here.

The ultimate showdown between two tiger moms is about to begin!

Tongtong's mom isn't really a tiger mom. Tiger parenting is about strictness. TongTong's mom is extremely laid back, but also super protective. She's more in "Mama Bear" territory?

Please just take the girl into your house and get her away from her homphobic and grade elitist mother. Worst case is that she just doesn't care, forgets about Xiao Lu and the two girls can go on with their life and love. Best case is that the mom realizes how shit of a parent she is and starts turning around to be a better mother
Though let's be real, is that REALLY gonna happen?

I definitely think "She doesn't care" is false. She's controlling and strict, but she's not apathetic. If Tongtong's mom took her in, Xiao Lu's mom would probably call the police? Best case scenario would be if Xiao Lu's mom straight up disowned her, then she probably wouldn't care if TT's mom took her in, but honestly, I don't see that happening.

I really just don't see her as not caring. She's got a lot of bad ideas about how to parent, but she's also working multiple jobs and taking care of her daughter and their house while her husband is just literally nothing but a wasteful drain on their finances who not only isn't supporting them, but also comes back periodically just to burn through the money in their bank account. She's a big ball of stress, depression, and burnout, and while that doesn't make what she's doing okay, it is probably part of what's exacerbating her negative qualities. The fact that she cares about her daughter doesn't mean that caring automatically manifests in a healthy supportive way.

I'm not sure which way this is going to go. Fact is, homophobic traditionalists often just can't be reasoned with. We haven't seen how far gone she is in this respect, but people get set in their ways under the best of circumstances, and these aren't those.

But TT's mom seems pretty disarming. And while I agree that she's super straight, she might have just the right perspective to be a positive influence?

I kinda love how she is outright outed as homophobic when i'm sure she would have react the same if it was a boy. She just don't want her to be distracted.

No, she explicitly singled out the fact that it was a relationship with a girl. She might have also demanded Xiao Lu break up with a boyfriend, but she is definitely specifically singling out the gender of her partner as explicitly part of the problem.

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well, I have no idea of what's going on anymore but luckily these characters are over-the-top enough to make it not really matter anyway. haha

Three idiots make ridiculous leaps of logic assuming what the others are thinking rather than effectively communicating with each other. Hijinks ensue.

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So are we gonna talk about Ai, wearing high heels on a steep hill, scooping up Misumi like she weighs nothing?

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I’m not rereading 43 chapters just to remember wtf was goin on so uh unless there are more updates in the coming weeks imma just drop this one for now.

Honestly if you just go back one episode that's really all it takes.

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243.04 - But ALL chests are naked under something, if you think about it...

Yeah, but what she's noticing, after the fact, is that her pyjamas were bunched up above her breasts So only the sheets were preserving her modesty, and she wasn't really being careful. Ai is realizing she was really close to getting a show.

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Wait, so this serie is more than a decade, is it worth getting invested in this? How's the yuri? I need to know, man what a undertaking, I'm scared. Anyone read it all? What's like your recommendation?

It's fluffy slice of life. The art is pretty cute and sexy, the relationship dynamics are cute and they do develop over time, but don't really expect a plot.

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It's hard to get a bead on this series. It's very cute and fluffy, but I'm not sure if we're supposed to take Youzi's belief that her mom is gay seriously, and thus it's about her encouraging her mother to get a girlfriend, or if "the joke" is supposed to just be that Youzi has misunderstood the whole thing. Her mom seems to indicate the latter; she's, at the very least, not in an actual secret relationship with a woman at that point, but whether that's because she really is straight or just to preserve the ambiguity is unclear.

I think she's not necessarily dating any ladies, but It seems pretty likely she's gay. She considers the prospect of remarrying or even dating a guy to be unthinkable, and Youzi's observations that her mom seems so much happier when she's flirting with girls probably isn't just wishful thinking.

Engaging wild speculation drive:

I think the gist of it is that she lives in a country and works in an industry where it is a business advantage to "play gay", but it's frowned upon to actually be gay. So she's doubly incentivized to pretend that her real inclinations are just part of an act, she doesn't think she can actually date anybody so she doesn't want to get her daughter's (or her own) hopes up.
This is probably reinforced on Ren's side, idol singers are even more controlled in the industry than actresses.

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This series is cute but the lack of any kind of developments is kind of frustrating.

Sir, this is a chapter 5....

I mean the last 3 chapters feel like connected oneshots in an anthology rather than sequential chapters in a story so I wouldn't say this is an unreasonable critique.

Yeah, but the chapters are also short. We're 26 pages of actual content in. That's like,1 good sized thin book. I've seen first chapters that are that long.

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Ohhhh, shit. This is actually like, really bad.
I mean, ignore the homophobia issue, I don't recall if we've seen indications that that might be a problem or not. But even if it's not, Lin's mom is literally working herself to death to support her daughter because she married a worthless loser that was a drag on her.

She is ABSOLUTELY going to think that's what this is. Her daughter was doing fine, then she started hanging out with/dating this girl, then her grades fell and she worked herself sick getting them back up again. She is totally going to think her daughter is repeating her mistakes, whether she has an issue with her gender preference or not.

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that guy did the biggest heel turn ever lmao, gotta love to see a fellow yuri connoisseur

This is a face turn. A heel turn is when you're good and go bad. A face turn is when you're bad (or seem it, here) and go good.

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This series is cute but the lack of any kind of developments is kind of frustrating.

In fairness, we're not very far in.

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She is going to tear off that heart accessory isn't she.
I like it when Yvonne asserts dominance.
It would have been a funnier if she sexually harassed Elsa for a bit. Win win for everyone.

Aaaaaah. Yeah, this is pretty obvious now that you say it. She'll tear off the heart and tear it in half. Technically fulfilling the requirement of the prompt.

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"Something's coming" and "I'm scared"? Is this the first time she's had her bean flicked?

Well, she's saying she's scared because it feels too good, so it could just be that she's surprised by how intense it is when someone else is doing the flicking.

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Ow my teef

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a little peeved that rinna doesn't even have one gf in the end smh. No double date shenanigans how could they

Honestly it feels like the author just didn't have the guts to go for the poly finish, so they ended with an ambiguous suggestion that the throuple might still happen someday. She's still single, they're still in contact, it's just waiting for somebody to go "Hey, why don't we...."

I mean, I genuinely am not usually a poly stan. Nothing against the lifestyle, It's not my preference but it's interesting to see stories like that from time to time, but fact is most of the time when people are clamoring for a poly ending, it's in a series that was always pretty clearly about a choice between rivals. But this series really does feel like the author was trying to go there, they wanted to go there, and they chickened out at the end. Maybe the editor put pressure on them, or maybe a reader poll got them to cave, or maybe I'm just totally misreading their intent, but that's the impression I get.

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Only now do I realize that each of the girls focus on one sense. We had touch, smell and hearing. I really wonder how the "taste" one is going to go, though.

She is a kiss demon.

Sensei's thing is probably that she likes to watch.

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Haruka and Kanae's little snapshot really shows their dynamic. Which I love btw- based on how we say Kanae at first, I would have expected HER to be the clingy/needy one. I love the role reversal trope.

I'm STILL upset at how their relationship was handled though. Judging based on their interactions after Haruka's note, I'm assuming they've entered a relationship since. I'm so salty about all of that being off-screen- they were my favorite couple and I feel like that was a total rip-off. I really hope the author doesn't do that with any other couples, especially Nononon and Yumimi (my current favorite- I also love Hibiki and Midori. This is very classic me- my favorites are ALWAYS the side/beta couples).

Honestly, the note thing comes down to people being to "trained" by anime tropes. Everybody here has been conditioned to treat "confessions" like they're a big deal. An event that demands a momentous response. And sometimes they are. Sometimes a person is putting themselves out there to somebody else that might not feel the same way.

But also a lot of times two people are into each other, they both know it, and the first "I love you" is just an affirmation of what they already know rather than a plot development.

When I read it, I didn't really think it was "a confession" in the big serious plot development sense of the word. It was just Haruka expressing affection.