When she says "it turns me on" on page 8, is that really that explicit? Cause that language doesn't feel like part of the roleplay.

I can't read.

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Weirdly, I think this discussion is making me like it more. Shino being ambiguously sadistic kind of makes this better for me.

Blue has that rizz, though

That alien outfit is really fucking cute though.

lol, prequel to I Love You So Much, I Hate You with Saori

It's a prequel? I don't see any characters that overlap. Is it in the untranslated chapters?

Nvm I was looking at the wrong manga.

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By creating a setting where identities are so heavily assigned, it ironically and cleverly opens up a secondary plane of identification beneath, one that is not avowed or declared like the opening of a resume- "I identity as XYZ, here are my pronouns, this is my flag", but one that is necessarily more elusive, strategic, provisional and metamorphic. The openness and clarity of queer labels and identity are, of course, a perfectly valid and valuable part of daily life, and one that has been attained through significant organization and agitation. But art is not and should not be life, and serves as a place to explore precisely those ways of speaking, thinking and being that are uncommon or mysterious in the range of daily affairs.

While I do think your comment was mostly about propping up Class S, the language and tone of it does feel dismissive of non-Class S work. These sentences in particular feel particularly heavy handed as far as elevating Class S by bringing down works that are more obvious about identity. It feels unnecessary to talk about how other works are worse to try to make this one be better.

Chapters like this is really confusing because it goes against the original plot of the story. Authors seem to always struggle with stories where video game characters become sentient. Why is Olivia given such a deep emotional background here when she is a video game character? Did her creator right this backstory? Do the players seem this in game? If not it doesn't make much sense.

I wish there was a manga where a video game character comes to life or a person goes into a video game that actually deals with the real implications of what that would mean. Like the MC trying to teach a character something beyond what their programming allows. Or the video game character having an existential crisis with coming to terms that their whole life is just a bunch of codes created by someone else. That would be far more interesting and more believable imo.

For example imagine if Machino's harem had to question if they like her or if they're programmed to like her, since they are just characters in a game. That their relationship with her isn't special and whoever plays the game would have the same relationship with them.

I would understand this if Machino was in the game proper, but the opening chapter has the characters literally jumping out of the game. If anything were to suggest that these characters are not bound by their game, it would be that.

Also, it's kind of a spoiler, but Not Your Typical Reincarnation Story has what you're looking for, but it's a novel, not a video game, and it's het.

Is @Temp for real or not? Like should we ignore it or can we reply to that?

Lol it's in their genes to be overthinkers. Aya is a badass, always has been.

The handholding definitely felt like a type of inadvertent crossing the line from just roleplay to real world. And then I'm curious if the last line about the "frying pan" is because she felt the big gay when Kasumi smiled that big.

Lol so relatable
"We're not having sex!"
an hour later
"Why aren't we having sex!"

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It looks like MD is caught up to the raws at ch 22.

It’s remarkable how commenters here care so much more about the boyfriend than the story does.

Or Ritsu.

And honestly ? I think it's fine. It's clearly written as the boy being tradition, obligation, and to be honest, setup. A manga like this one doesn't care about those things primarily. It cares about the feelings of its protagonists. And Ritsu's feelings have been for Tsuzuri since the first chapter.

The only reason he stills exists is because it supports a bit of drama - "how do I break up, how do I tell the news, what will it do to my image". Elements that are part of the story, but not the main part, since romance and comedy are more important than drama.

Also... people give far too much importance to a relationship that never meant anything. They're treating this like a NTR story, which it really isn't.

It's a romance story, between two girls who manage to be awkward for the dumbest thing, and it's great at that <3

I haven't seen anyone treat this as an NTR story either, and even if it was, plenty of us have enjoyed yuri stories with more serious cheating. It's obviously not the main focus, but it's also fair to acknowledge that not breaking up with someone and trying to be with someone else is kind of shitty. Both her sister and Yarai have pointed out that she's cheating and it's not a good thing, so clearly the story does care about it. Just because it's a romance doesn't mean our leads are incapable of doing wrong and being called out for it.

Wow. Just straight up asking to smell like her. Girl. Your gay is so big. Still can't get a read on Momo.

Solid manga.

Predictably disappointing comment section. ^^

In what way do you think it's disappointing?

I don't want to speak for op, but I'd say the constant talk about how gross smoking is gets pretty tiresome.

All the other chapters ended on "to be continued" this better not be the end

The gay posing and gay drama this chapter were unreal.

Love the, straight men are not attracted to a certain look that lesbians are attracted to, vibe of the initial scene in the restaurant.

And wow Kaori went big gay there. Not sure I have a good read on Momo yet, she said she's been hit on by women before and doesn't seem bothered by the concept, and she went for the whole roomie thing, but she's also not explicitly flirting. She flirts a little when Kaori stares at her and calls her pretty, but otherwise she's just super chill.

Hand rolling her own cigarettes? She's the hipster dream.

God I totally fucking understand you girl
Women with ink are fucking gorgeous

The bane of my existence. I'm in love with one that broke my heart into tiny little pieces and she's still the most beautiful person I may have ever seen.

So yeah, relatable camera girl.

God, Aya crying really got to me. My poor baby! Mitsuki! Give her all the hugs!

If people in works of fiction talked like sane people, half the books, movies, TV shows, and gay-ass manga in the world wouldn't exist.

And we would all be better for it. These kinds of contrived "conflicts" always feels like low quality fanfiction where the author either don't know how to create compelling communicating characters or they are out of ideas.

What is contrived about this situation exactly? Someone feeling insecure and stressed doesn't discuss their insecurity and stress with loved ones. That feels not only incredibly common, but as evidenced by the first time Aya avoided Mitsuki, very in character.

Oh that's some world building starting to occur.

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

also welcome to marriages before WW2 lol. The idea you married for love is an extremely modern phenomena

No, it's not, unless you mean among the upper classes, but even then, it's wildly before WW2. I think this is a pretty good reddit thread that goes over it, but marriage for love happened quite a lot in the Middle Ages, even if it wasn't the only consideration.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/eonvkw/how_common_was_marrying_for_love_amongst_the/

And if we're talking specifically Japan, again here they talk about the difference between nobility/samurai/warrior and the commoners, where commoners were much more likely to marry for love.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/hvmlhl/what_was_the_process_of_courtship_and_marriage/

Both of these poor little babies making me cry! I love them so much!

It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner.

Does she? She's her ticket to becoming a queen, of course she is upset she's not resting :P I wouldn't read too much into that.

She's a tsundere. I think there's a strong implication she wants to become queen to protect her sister.