seems kind of pointless to build up the tension of "oh no, I fell in love with my niece, what should I do, how does she feel about me, is there something wrong with me, is our relationship going to survive or fail and it'll be my fault"

... where did this happen, exactly?

tima walked so taiyaki could run, yuru oyako is the spiritual successor for modern sensibilities

I actually just checked the other day because I remembered posting the tweet about it supposedly resuming last year. From what I could find, the last tweet from the author about the series was in May of this year - they explicitly mentioned they intended to continue the series but they were still trying to get it back on schedule. The last update was Ch7.3 in late Feb 2021.

I write 1x1/2 stuff on AO3 and often come across other yuri series that I recognize from Dynasty but didn't know had fanworks. After the billionth time this happened ("Snake Woman And Little Miss Offering is on here?" was what finally got me, I think), I figured I'd do what any normal person would do and scan through the entire 2k+ Anime/Manga fandoms list, writing down anything that looked familiar. I thought it was worth posting the list in case it helps anyone else discover something interesting, and somehow remembered this ancient thread existed.

The intent was to try to catch the "wait, somebody did that?" manga micro-fandoms rather than huge anime-adapted series you'd naturally assume had something, while avoiding getting bogged down in Subtext. So the criteria were 1. having a Dynasty series (not doujin) page (most of these) or 2. being an explicitly yuri original work listed in the Anime/Manga category with under 50 fanworks (the few rare exceptions to #1). Please let me know if I've missed anything fitting one of those.

Disclaimer for the unaware: people write massive crossovers on AO3 and never ever use the "Background & Cameo Characters" tag, so some of these may exist solely from a single character mention. I haven't vetted or discluded any for content, either. If the sole work for the manga you love has a tag list two screens high and a plot where your favorite character is a werewolf barista married to all the members of BTS, sorry, that's just AO3.

• #DRCL midnight children
• 1 x 1/2
• 2DK, G-Pen, Alarm Clock.
• A Kiss for the Petals
• A Kiss And A White Lily
• A Monster Wants To Eat Me
• A Room For Two
• A Yuri Story About a Girl Who Insists "It's Impossible for Two Girls to Get Together" Completely Falling Within 100 Days (Arioto)
• Akebi-chan's Sailor Uniform
• Asumi-chan Is Interested in Lesbian Brothels
• Aoi Hana
• Beauty and the Beast Girl
• Bloom Into You
• Bocchi the Rock!
• Citrus
• Ebisu-san to Hotel-san
• First Love Sisters
• Fragtime
• Girl Friends
• Goodbye, My Rose Garden
• Gunbured x Sisters
• Hana Ni Arashi
• Handsome Girl And Sheltered Girl
• Hanjuku Joshi
• Happy Sugar Life
• Hero-san and Former General-san
  
• Hino-san no Baka
• How To Break A Triangle
• I Favor The Villainess
• I Married My Best Friend to Shut My Parents Up
• Kase-san
• Kindred Spirits On The Roof
• Kisses, Sighs, and Cherry-Blossom Pink
• Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii
• Kobayashi-san chi no Maid Dragon
• Koisuru Asteroid
• Liar Satsuki Can See Death
• Living with My Brother's Wife.
• Lonely Wolf Lonely Sheep
• Murcielago
• My Unrequited Love
• Nettaigyo wa Yuki ni Kogareru
• Non Non Biyori
• Prism
• Qualia The Purple
• Saki
• Sakura Trick
• Sasameki Koto
• School Zone
• Sekai de Ichiban Oppai ga Suki!
• Shimeji Simulation
• Shoujo Sect
• Slow Start
• Snake Woman and Little Miss Offering
• The Fed Up Office Lady Wants to Serve the Villainess
• The Feelings We All Must Endure
• The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn't a Guy At All
• Their Story
• There's No Way I Can Have A Lover! *Or Maybe There Is? (Watanare)
• Useless Princesses
• VAMPEERZ
• Virgins' Empire
• Watashi ni Tenshi ga Maiorita!
• Watashi wa Kimi wo Nakasetai
• Whispering You A Love Song
• Yuri Is My Job!
• Yuri Kuma Arashi
• Yuru Camp
• Yuru Oyako
• Yuru Yuri
• Yuyushiki
• Yuzumori-san

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Without even searching for it, I've come across four instances of characters being locked in a room until they kiss/have sex. Does anyone else know if there are more examples because there seems to be potential for a new tag. I don't know what it would be called, though.
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4

～しないと出られない部屋 is a pretty common trope, especially for oneshots/bonuses, and I thought about suggesting an Escape Room tag before but couldn't dig up enough examples. Here's another - I think in this case the title stems from the translators being unfamiliar with the concept & breaking the sentence at the と conditional rather than realizing it's all a relative clause describing the yuri in the same way it usually describes the room (which is omitted since the reader is assumed to be aware of the scenario), so it's more like "Can't Escape Without Having Sex" Yuri.

edit: And another, which I'm surprised I forgot about.

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This manga has been really important to me for like a year now and I spent it reading and re-reading it without having anyone to talk about it, so reading all 128 pages of discussion spanning 5 years was a real treat sjbshsbshahs

I got into it a little earlier when things were still active here but yeah I know the feeling lmao, I really miss the discussions here. Agree on the TL - at least in the new EN Ch1-3 (still need to get around to finishing JP Ch4+) the tone feels a little constructed/more uneven, even when a lot of dialogue remains the same? I'm used to and likely biased towards the old version, but I kinda feel like I need to be reading both concurrently instead of just chilling out with the English release.

Anyway, Vol1 thoughts now that it's technically done. I was going to wait until all the English chapters were unpaywalled too, but it seems even Ch4 has been on Pixiv Comics for free since Dec, so no idea when that will happen.

• Unless I missed it, Asuka's clarification that she wants to "go all the way" seems to be gone, which is kind of a shame? I thought that admission was not only a welcome change from the standard manga confession but illustrative of how awkward the discussion might need to get to unambiguously communicate what's actually going on.

• Ayako's reaction to the confession still lands perfectly, and I think this dynamic - that Ayako might not understand how Asuka feels, but would never want her to suffer in silence - is the key to making everything that comes after feel credible. It's only because Ayako is a good mother that her gut reaction is regret for how difficult things had gotten for Asuka, rather than to leap to defensiveness or judgment, and so the scene actually cements their existing relationship at the exact moment it might otherwise seem least believable.

  The oneshots that worked best in the anthology (like Torii Sumi, Inui Ayu, or Misaki Tenmu's) found their own ways to make their characters' relationship plausible (usually centering on abandonment), but I really only see these small, elegant insights about motherhood used to full effect by Taiyaki. No plot contrivances or character twists are really necessary, and the characterization feels pretty grounded as a result.

• Ayako's power of attraction remaining essentially supernatural in the new version surprised me. This was probably the element I disliked the most in the original: it seemed like an atypically cautious justification for Asuka's feelings that felt increasingly superfluous as we saw more of Ayako's internal narrative. That this element remains intact probably bodes well for the Mom Radar gag, though, which I love (and even ties in with Asuka's arc in vol 9)

• The young Ayako stuff is great, and seems to be hinting at more about how she dealt with being a target of attention throughout her life and how she changed in return. That's something only briefly touched on in the original, and would do a lot to justify Ayako's "preternaturally attractive" thing. I did always liked the idea of Ayako finally coming to terms with this part of her life only for it to appear again from an unexpected direction, even if I didn't enjoy the way it framed Asuka's feelings as artificial.

• The pace accelerating enough that Akira shows up at the end of this volume makes sense, I think, and her TL feels slightly looser which I think fits her a bit better. Also, Taiyaki's note about how she completely forgot to put her in appropriate winter clothing the first time around was pretty funny. I hope we see more Akira, even if she does need to leave pretty quickly if the plot swerve with her remains intact. I remember Taiyaki RTing someone's warning about how Akira's not your typical "ex from the past", so I suspect things will play out similarly.

• hopelessly praying something spicy like the original Vol 1 extra makes its way into the final volume release

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I don't use Gmail and haven't received a new notification since Kami eshi JK to OL fujoshi ch24 on 3/3. I don't think any of my subscribed series have updated since then, but I'm tag-subscribed to Incest and don't have Het blacklisted, so would have expected an email for the strangely controversial I Favor The Villainess Ch18 uploaded 3/7.

Nice to see this translated, Lusamine is so pretty!!! (also I feel like there should be an Escape Room tag as it's really common and always fun)

Since when do you need to get an author's permission to post a fanfic? If people had to do that, they wouldn't exist.

You don't, obviously, but in a super tiny fandom where a language gap exists and with the content not being immediately apparent like fanart, I thought it'd be courteous to discuss it before publishing. There had also been one or two discussions about fanfiction in this thread before, so I figured it'd be best to clear that up (whoever mentioned that they wrote that R18 Ayako/Asuka thing, please feel free to post it!!!).

And I'm also concerned about the delay since the YH page is now technically two updates behind.

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so this has more chapters that got an official translation and are up on DLsite, theres a big sale going on right now with them 50% off each, and a coupon of 30% off on top of that if you buy the translated version.

For anyone curious, since I found it super hard to find on DLsite (only found it by the Japanese title), I think this is the complete set. Also, I laughed way too much at Genre: Breasts on the latter two.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

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Anything Hachiko is good, even when they're not sisters

Can't blame them for wanting that sweet moolah.

If that were the goal, leveraging these kind of sites to promote the existing free, delayed chapters of the remake as already discussed would be a much more lucrative move. While it's her prerogative, of course, and I think "if it's available in English, just buy it" is completely reasonable in general, I can't even see this as a good purely business decision.

Also, the old version is literally only up to Vol 4 (and only up to Vol 2 is available on Booth, apparently?) - I certainly don't think anything past Vol 2 should be removed until it's clarified whether removing chapters not even currently on sale was the intent. I have no idea how I'd have written anything without the current English version as a quick reference.

edit: Apparently this may be (at least partially) mirroring the decision to pull the old version from Japanese Kindle a few months ago, so ongoing discussion of the remake wouldn't get spoiled by discussion of the doujin version. This also explains why English Vol 3 & 4 are not currently being sold. In light of this, removing the old version (however possible) makes a little more sense, and while I'm still not super happy about it, it is at least consistent.

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Sumika's role is really to squeeze Sayaka between her knowing-but-completely-blase "oh you were exactly like this haha so what's the problem~~~" attitude & Yuuki's stubbornness to keep Sayaka perpetually flustered like some sort of oyako tokamak; that angle works a lot better for me than the chapters where Yuuki just pushes her around.

YH page? I would like to see where taiyaki is at right now with remake and I will pay and subscribe once part 2 starts.

This page. Up to Chapter 3 is available to read for free and Chapter 4 should be available free pretty soon. The Japanese release for subscribers is currently at the first half of Chapter 5 (the English release is still at Ch4 since it sometimes lags a bit behind), and the update speed has been about a full chapter per month.

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I'd keep reading either way but this was the turn I was secretly hoping for from the title. Keeping my expectations set to the safer "older woman is shocked, blushy mess", but if we get an age gap series out of this where the pretty onee-san is the top I don't think my heart will be able to take it

Sayaka logic has entered the chat

I don't think that's how that works. But, do keep trying to prove your hypothesis.

It absolutely works from personal experience. Most hiccup remedies seem to be about triggering some overwhelming physical sensation that interrupts it (drinking or eating something really cold/sour/sweet, mild pain, holding your breath, whatever).

Oh, no, I 100% agree that it's only referring to the 'looking' thing and Ayako is just expressing that she's resigned to that treatment (she'd certainly have to be to put up with Akira for that long). I'm just citing that exchange as part of the general vibe the two have about Akira's attraction to Ayako. Sorry if that wasn't clear!

(I do find it pretty funny it's even a tiny bit believable as referring to anything else, though, because if you ignore all the context you mentioned, that line does sound like such a characteristically coy invitation, like a very Ayako version of 'netflix and chill')

edit: Also, as suggested, I updated the story to use 'Mom' in all the big first-person blocks, as well as in internal thoughts where it flowed with the rest of the sentence (generally in places when Asuka is thinking more subjectively). I was careful to make sure it was prominent in Asuka's spoken dialogue, but using it so sparingly in internal thoughts was 100% a character-voice slip on my part, and especially jarring in the intro, so I appreciate you mentioning it even if you weren't a fan of the work.

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Don’t think Ayako ever perceived Akira as any kind of romantic partner (obligatory or not) – rather just as a family (non-romantic kind of it, not the other kind she ended up being with Asuka) and a friend.

Otherwise it doesn't add up to a lot of things. Their last conversation (16.2) for example. If they’d already used to have intimate relationship before, Akira would be asking something akin to “and did you felt the same way with me?” instead of her “what if it’s with me?” following by the demonstration of exactly what’d she meant by said line.

That makes sense, although if it were 10 or so years later I think it's reasonable that Ayako might need a reminder. I've always just based it on how casual Ayako and Akira are about the topic: the 'I don't mind if it's me' line, the way she behaves when Akira shows up at the pharmacy, the attempted sleeping kiss (I can buy this being a random impulse from a pent-up-adolescent-passion Asuka, but not from an at-that-point-32?-year-old Akira), Akira's guilt about her not deserving Ayako's love, and Ayako's general begrudging-but-accepting attitude to Akira's teasing. To me (and my girlfriend who read the manga a few months ago), their behavior together absolutely screams that they had a history that they tried to keep Asuka from noticing (of course Asuka of all people would interpret this as Ayako being "attacked"), with Akira eventually falling back into being the supportive Morii family ATM we know and love.

I admit part of the appeal for me is it also recontextualizes the "what happened wasn't your fault" line into something more interesting and relevant IMO. I suspect Taiyaki was really trying to go for something a little too expository about Akira somehow being responsible for Atsushi's death, but it seems like a pretty weird place to bring that up. In light of Akira finding out about the two of them, unexpectedly leaving, and expressing some frustration toward Asuka, an 'it's not you, it's me' speech starts making a lot more sense.

Ultimately, I know this is a fairly ancient debate and it can be read a variety of ways (and I enjoy all of them, including the completely platonic one!) - it's just, from a writer's perspective, Akira being Asuka's thematic mirror is really too tempting a character arc to ignore. I'm looking forward to her showing up in the remake a lot.

ohh thank you for the reply, instant sub XD. yeah i prefer the original too, i think i will skip the remake but read the easygoing oyako instead.

hehehe i read your work, i love it. akira is my most favorite character in here, just how cool she is.. kinda want to see it in manga form. thank you.

Forgot to reply, thank you for reading & I'm happy you liked it. I write assuming I'm probably the only person in the world that the story is going to work for (especially when the subject matter is cross-generational incestuous love triangles) and so when people let me know they enjoyed something I worked on it really makes my day.

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I understand, just thought I'd mention the option since I won't be able to get around to it for a while. I'll certainly let you know if it looks like it's viable.

edit: Also, just in case it wasn't clear, I'm not saying it was really 'casual sex': my interpretation (which is basically core to both stories) has that they had a prior, serious relationship before Akira came to realize that Ayako was unconsciously playing out her preconceptions of what 'having a family' meant with Akira (as she would have with Atsushi), rather than there being any genuine desire there. Between Asuka existing at all from her brief time with Atsushi, Ayako likely internalizing the idea that sexual desire towards a partner is part of a normal domestic life, and Akira being Akira, I can't imagine that relationship as being completely sexless.

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I don't think it'd be appropriate to bug Taiyaki directly, since she's delegated that stuff out for a reason & it's YH's translation work, but since you posted about it previously I've been considering asking YH when I get the time. For various personal reasons, that probably won't be for a while, so if you'd like to know sooner I'd really suggest emailing (hello@yurihub.com) or DMing @yuri_hub_plus and just asking. They're nice there and I think they'd be open-minded about it (maybe throwing in some links and a short explanation where the credits page would normally go or something?).

I do think embracing how overseas readers discover manga a litlte more would probably be a good business decision as well as a good community decision. There are a ton of natural discovery mechanisms for Japanese readers -- Yuri Navi and the rankings, Amazon recommendations, author cross-promotion, lots of anthologies that don't get scanlated or licensed -- that just don't have any parallels here. For example, a lot of people seemed to be completely unaware that My Sweet Home even existed (much less where to get it) until for whatever reason a group scanlated two random chapters???

Also, Fanbox is an absolutely fantastic monetization system for English-translated manga (accepting intl. credit cards, full English site, none of the sword-of-Damocles content restrictions like Patreon), but it's obviously not a great place to have detailed discussions, and the reader is so bad I just open all the pages in tabs... so I'd definitely like to see it here too.

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@lilyflame, yeah I'm 99% sure that was a mistake in english version.

Thanks a bunch for confirming, it seemed like an oddly basic mistake to make for an official translation so I kept thinking I had to have missed something.

umm, so is the yuri hub the part 2 or a remake ?

It's the remake right now until it catches up to where part 2 would start - you can always check the YH page for the free chapters to see where it's at.

If anyone's interested, finally finished that Akira x Asuka oneshot (~8.3k words), an alternate ending for Room You Can't Escape. If it's not obvious from the premise, CW for all the things you'd generally expect from this manga dialed up to (a soft-ish?) R18 -- Taiyaki said it was OK so I went for it (and tried to make it both fun & meaningful). This is also a significantly more 1x1/2-y story in tone, and for both of those reasons it was a lot more difficult. I'm not super happy with it in a few places, but I'd spent so long on it that the drafts were starting to go in circles...

I probably won't keep posting my own work here since the thread is pretty slow now and it feels weird, but will almost certainly keep writing here and there as the new serialization progresses (I try to write fairly canon-compliant), so if you're interested in future works you can keep an eye on the 1x1/2 tag or my AO3 profile!

Thoughts on the remake so far: my worry was a tighter story might unintentionally get way too intense and make the extended cast feel disposable -- the fun, fluffy meandering is pretty charming and balances out the drama. So I like the light touch where the original worked fine (the dialogue's so similar in places that when I trip over some kanji, it's nice to remember the sentence from memory!)

The changes that were made seem pretty smart so far: I don't really miss stuff like Asuka running into a random old lady instead of someone relevant (and the someone is a fun cameo), and as things progress it looks like we're going to get more scene additions rather than just trimming the fat, and Rui seems more three-dimensional now. A while back I joked that maybe the most awaited plot point here was Ayako finally buying that new bed, and Taiyaki replied that she just never found a good place for it, so I'd laugh if we finally saw it this time around (...eventually!)

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The first chapter got turned into a voice comic -- Taiyaki channeled her powerful shipping energy into getting the VAs of Yugiri and Lily from ZLS (Rika Kinugawa & Minami Tanaka) to voice Sayaka and Yuuki.

Back when the previous version was being released as volumes, Taiyaki had to periodically pull older Fanbox digital releases -- if I remember right, this was because an exclusivity clause is applied to titles once they're enrolled in Kindle Unlimited (and KU was very helpful in keeping the series afloat). I don't think there's as much of a chance of that now since this version is being serialized on Pixiv Comics, but having control over distribution is probably important. Even so, it would be nice if some sort of agreement could be made for them to be uploaded here,

I'm hesitant to mention it, but I've been reading both the Japanese and the English versions and I'm not completely insane for thinking「あなたを世界で一番愛した男のDNA」to "the DNA of the man who you loved the most" is backwards and it should be "the DNA of the man who loved you most in the [entire] world" (as in the version here), right? I mean, it doesn't matter all that much at this point because Asuka has no idea as to how bizarre her parents' relationship really was, but it also doesn't flow at all.

edit: Also, the new cover being used for the serialization on Pixiv Comics looks pretty neat..

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Can someone clarify what kind of exception prompted the licensed My Sweet Home anthology chapters to be posted here? I've seen cases where series with scanlations well ahead of the (typically large publisher's) official English release continue, but this is a 170pg+ doujin anthology that has been fully available in English since March for like $14, so it's kind of disheartening to see it appear here piecemeal.

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