Yuru Oyako Vol1 & the full version of My Sweet Home have hit (non-Japanese) Amazon, which is ... not really something I thought would ever happen. Reiwa is amazing. Probably no 1x1/2 anytime soon, as I don't think the remake's Vol1 has seen a full volume release in English yet.

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Yep, it's a popular female otaku thing in a genre often aimed at and drawn by female otaku, and I think helps make characters relatable (similarly to how Oshibudo might be for idol fans) while also allowing mangaka to write what they know (as in Kami Eshi JK) when they want to bring characters together over a shared interest.

The dominance of the term "yaoi" aside, with anime/manga being a subset of Western M/M shippers (from Kirk/Spock to MCU/Supernatural/etc), and with M/M shipping being seen as quite niche itself, it may be easier to draw a brighter line between manga readers and the BL fandom in the West than in Japan, where a lot of yuri fans and authors at the very least have had some exposure to BL and the romance genre more broadly.

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Above list has been updated with a few additions -- most were newly created (I had a feeling KitaKimi would show up eventually), but I think I'm probably missing a few older series as well.

I think if I were looking for it, I'd expect something like Transit or Transportation as a generic tag, but especially the latter feels like it might include something like this which might be kind of out-of-scope? This probably qualifies either way, Whatever it ends up being called, I'd enjoy just seeing how many "falling asleep on someone on the train" oneshots are out there.

also, I'm sad that YH stopped making chapters free to read when the next one gets released. unfortunate

Whoa, I had assumed you were talking about the free chapters still being stalled out at Ch3. but everything between Ch1 and the beginning of Vol2 is gone even for subscribers. Hopefully that's a sign Vol1 will be released in English soon, but I feel like a paid service shouldn't require quite this much guesswork.

edit: never mind about the subscriber bit -- they're still up behind the paywall, just tagged confusingly and the index links are gone

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Isn't this artist's pen name a joke of some kind? I seem to recall another manga explaining this as a yojijukugo with a double meaning...

Might be thinking of this?

edit: tl;dr as far as I know is 弱肉強食 is "survival of the fittest" and the idea that if asked to fill in ○肉○食 (e.g. for an exam or trivia or something), a certain type of person would snap to 焼肉定食, and this is extra funny because of the gulf in formality between it and the more classical vibe of yojijukugo

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seems kind of pointless to build up the tension of "oh no, I fell in love with my niece, what should I do, how does she feel about me, is there something wrong with me, is our relationship going to survive or fail and it'll be my fault"

... where did this happen, exactly?

tima walked so taiyaki could run, yuru oyako is the spiritual successor for modern sensibilities

I actually just checked the other day because I remembered posting the tweet about it supposedly resuming last year. From what I could find, the last tweet from the author about the series was in May of this year - they explicitly mentioned they intended to continue the series but they were still trying to get it back on schedule. The last update was Ch7.3 in late Feb 2021.

I write 1x1/2 stuff on AO3 and often come across other yuri series that I recognize from Dynasty but didn't know had fanworks. After the billionth time this happened ("Snake Woman And Little Miss Offering is on here?" was what finally got me, I think), I figured I'd do what any normal person would do and scan through the entire 2k+ Anime/Manga fandoms list, writing down anything that looked familiar. I thought it was worth posting the list in case it helps anyone else discover something interesting, and somehow remembered this ancient thread existed.

The intent was to try to catch the "wait, somebody did that?" manga micro-fandoms rather than huge anime-adapted series you'd naturally assume had something, while avoiding getting bogged down in Subtext. So the criteria were 1. having a Dynasty series (not doujin) page (most of these) or 2. being an explicitly yuri original work listed in the Anime/Manga category with under 50 fanworks (the few rare exceptions to #1). Please let me know if I've missed anything fitting one of those.

Disclaimer for the unaware: people write massive crossovers on AO3 and never ever use the "Background & Cameo Characters" tag, so some of these may exist solely from a single character mention. I haven't vetted or discluded any for content, either. If the sole work for the manga you love has a tag list two screens high and a plot where your favorite character is a werewolf barista married to all the members of BTS, sorry, that's just AO3.

• #DRCL midnight children
• 1 x 1/2
• 2DK, G-Pen, Alarm Clock.
• A Kiss for the Petals
• A Kiss And A White Lily
• A Room For Two
• Akebi-chan's Sailor Uniform
• Aoi Hana
• Beauty and the Beast Girl
• Bloom Into You
• Bocchi the Rock!
• Citrus
• Ebisu-san to Hotel-san
• First Love Sisters
• Fragtime
• Girl Friends
• Goodbye, My Rose Garden
• Gunbured x Sisters
• Hana Ni Arashi
• Handsome Girl And Sheltered Girl
• Hanjuku Joshi
• Happy Sugar Life
• Hero-san and Former General-san
  
• Hino-san no Baka
• I Favor The Villainess
• I Married My Best Friend to Shut My Parents Up
• Kase-san
• Kindred Spirits On The Roof
• Kisses, Sighs, and Cherry-Blossom Pink
• Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii
• Kobayashi-san chi no Maid Dragon
• Koisuru Asteroid
• Liar Satsuki Can See Death
• Living with My Brother's Wife.
• Lonely Wolf Lonely Sheep
• Murcielago
• My Unrequited Love
• Nettaigyo wa Yuki ni Kogareru
• Non Non Biyori
• Prism
• Qualia The Purple
• Saki
• Sakura Trick
• Sasameki Koto
• School Zone
• Sekai de Ichiban Oppai ga Suki!
• Shimeji Simulation
• Shoujo Sect
• Slow Start
• Snake Woman and Little Miss Offering
• The Feelings We All Must Endure
• Their Story
• There's No Way I Can Have A Lover! *Or Maybe There Is?
• Useless Princesses
• VAMPEERZ
• Virgins' Empire
• Watashi ni Tenshi ga Maiorita!
• Watashi wa Kimi wo Nakasetai
• Whispering You A Love Song
• Yuri Is My Job!
• Yuri Kuma Arashi
• Yuru Camp
• Yuru Oyako
• Yuru Yuri
• Yuyushiki
• Yuzumori-san

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Without even searching for it, I've come across four instances of characters being locked in a room until they kiss/have sex. Does anyone else know if there are more examples because there seems to be potential for a new tag. I don't know what it would be called, though.
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3
4

～しないと出られない部屋 is a pretty common trope, especially for oneshots/bonuses, and I thought about suggesting an Escape Room tag before but couldn't dig up enough examples. Here's another - I think in this case the title stems from the translators being unfamiliar with the concept & breaking the sentence at the と conditional rather than realizing it's all a relative clause describing the yuri in the same way it usually describes the room (which is omitted since the reader is assumed to be aware of the scenario), so it's more like "Can't Escape Without Having Sex" Yuri.

edit: And another, which I'm surprised I forgot about.

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This manga has been really important to me for like a year now and I spent it reading and re-reading it without having anyone to talk about it, so reading all 128 pages of discussion spanning 5 years was a real treat sjbshsbshahs

I got into it a little earlier when things were still active here but yeah I know the feeling lmao, I really miss the discussions here. Agree on the TL - at least in the new EN Ch1-3 (still need to get around to finishing JP Ch4+) the tone feels a little constructed/more uneven, even when a lot of dialogue remains the same? I'm used to and likely biased towards the old version, but I kinda feel like I need to be reading both concurrently instead of just chilling out with the English release.

Anyway, Vol1 thoughts now that it's technically done. I was going to wait until all the English chapters were unpaywalled too, but it seems even Ch4 has been on Pixiv Comics for free since Dec, so no idea when that will happen.

• Unless I missed it, Asuka's clarification that she wants to "go all the way" seems to be gone, which is kind of a shame? I thought that admission was not only a welcome change from the standard manga confession but illustrative of how awkward the discussion might need to get to unambiguously communicate what's actually going on.

• Ayako's reaction to the confession still lands perfectly, and I think this dynamic - that Ayako might not understand how Asuka feels, but would never want her to suffer in silence - is the key to making everything that comes after feel credible. It's only because Ayako is a good mother that her gut reaction is regret for how difficult things had gotten for Asuka, rather than to leap to defensiveness or judgment, and so the scene actually cements their existing relationship at the exact moment it might otherwise seem least believable.

  The oneshots that worked best in the anthology (like Torii Sumi, Inui Ayu, or Misaki Tenmu's) found their own ways to make their characters' relationship plausible (usually centering on abandonment), but I really only see these small, elegant insights about motherhood used to full effect by Taiyaki. No plot contrivances or character twists are really necessary, and the characterization feels pretty grounded as a result.

• Ayako's power of attraction remaining essentially supernatural in the new version surprised me. This was probably the element I disliked the most in the original: it seemed like an atypically cautious justification for Asuka's feelings that felt increasingly superfluous as we saw more of Ayako's internal narrative. That this element remains intact probably bodes well for the Mom Radar gag, though, which I love (and even ties in with Asuka's arc in vol 9)

• The young Ayako stuff is great, and seems to be hinting at more about how she dealt with being a target of attention throughout her life and how she changed in return. That's something only briefly touched on in the original, and would do a lot to justify Ayako's "preternaturally attractive" thing. I did always liked the idea of Ayako finally coming to terms with this part of her life only for it to appear again from an unexpected direction, even if I didn't enjoy the way it framed Asuka's feelings as artificial.

• The pace accelerating enough that Akira shows up at the end of this volume makes sense, I think, and her TL feels slightly looser which I think fits her a bit better. Also, Taiyaki's note about how she completely forgot to put her in appropriate winter clothing the first time around was pretty funny. I hope we see more Akira, even if she does need to leave pretty quickly if the plot swerve with her remains intact. I remember Taiyaki RTing someone's warning about how Akira's not your typical "ex from the past", so I suspect things will play out similarly.

• hopelessly praying something spicy like the original Vol 1 extra makes its way into the final volume release

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I don't use Gmail and haven't received a new notification since Kami eshi JK to OL fujoshi ch24 on 3/3. I don't think any of my subscribed series have updated since then, but I'm tag-subscribed to Incest and don't have Het blacklisted, so would have expected an email for the strangely controversial I Favor The Villainess Ch18 uploaded 3/7.

Nice to see this translated, Lusamine is so pretty!!! (also I feel like there should be an Escape Room tag as it's really common and always fun)

Since when do you need to get an author's permission to post a fanfic? If people had to do that, they wouldn't exist.

You don't, obviously, but in a super tiny fandom where a language gap exists and with the content not being immediately apparent like fanart, I thought it'd be courteous to discuss it before publishing. There had also been one or two discussions about fanfiction in this thread before, so I figured it'd be best to clear that up (whoever mentioned that they wrote that R18 Ayako/Asuka thing, please feel free to post it!!!).

And I'm also concerned about the delay since the YH page is now technically two updates behind.

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so this has more chapters that got an official translation and are up on DLsite, theres a big sale going on right now with them 50% off each, and a coupon of 30% off on top of that if you buy the translated version.

For anyone curious, since I found it super hard to find on DLsite (only found it by the Japanese title), I think this is the complete set. Also, I laughed way too much at Genre: Breasts on the latter two.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

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Anything Hachiko is good, even when they're not sisters

Can't blame them for wanting that sweet moolah.

If that were the goal, leveraging these kind of sites to promote the existing free, delayed chapters of the remake as already discussed would be a much more lucrative move. While it's her prerogative, of course, and I think "if it's available in English, just buy it" is completely reasonable in general, I can't even see this as a good purely business decision.

Also, the old version is literally only up to Vol 4 (and only up to Vol 2 is available on Booth, apparently?) - I certainly don't think anything past Vol 2 should be removed until it's clarified whether removing chapters not even currently on sale was the intent. I have no idea how I'd have written anything without the current English version as a quick reference.

edit: Apparently this may be (at least partially) mirroring the decision to pull the old version from Japanese Kindle a few months ago, so ongoing discussion of the remake wouldn't get spoiled by discussion of the doujin version. This also explains why English Vol 3 & 4 are not currently being sold. In light of this, removing the old version (however possible) makes a little more sense, and while I'm still not super happy about it, it is at least consistent.

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Sumika's role is really to squeeze Sayaka between her knowing-but-completely-blase "oh you were exactly like this haha so what's the problem~~~" attitude & Yuuki's stubbornness to keep Sayaka perpetually flustered like some sort of oyako tokamak; that angle works a lot better for me than the chapters where Yuuki just pushes her around.

YH page? I would like to see where taiyaki is at right now with remake and I will pay and subscribe once part 2 starts.

This page. Up to Chapter 3 is available to read for free and Chapter 4 should be available free pretty soon. The Japanese release for subscribers is currently at the first half of Chapter 5 (the English release is still at Ch4 since it sometimes lags a bit behind), and the update speed has been about a full chapter per month.

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I'd keep reading either way but this was the turn I was secretly hoping for from the title. Keeping my expectations set to the safer "older woman is shocked, blushy mess", but if we get an age gap series out of this where the pretty onee-san is the top I don't think my heart will be able to take it

Sayaka logic has entered the chat

I don't think that's how that works. But, do keep trying to prove your hypothesis.

It absolutely works from personal experience. Most hiccup remedies seem to be about triggering some overwhelming physical sensation that interrupts it (drinking or eating something really cold/sour/sweet, mild pain, holding your breath, whatever).

Oh, no, I 100% agree that it's only referring to the 'looking' thing and Ayako is just expressing that she's resigned to that treatment (she'd certainly have to be to put up with Akira for that long). I'm just citing that exchange as part of the general vibe the two have about Akira's attraction to Ayako. Sorry if that wasn't clear!

(I do find it pretty funny it's even a tiny bit believable as referring to anything else, though, because if you ignore all the context you mentioned, that line does sound like such a characteristically coy invitation, like a very Ayako version of 'netflix and chill')

edit: Also, as suggested, I updated the story to use 'Mom' in all the big first-person blocks, as well as in internal thoughts where it flowed with the rest of the sentence (generally in places when Asuka is thinking more subjectively). I was careful to make sure it was prominent in Asuka's spoken dialogue, but using it so sparingly in internal thoughts was 100% a character-voice slip on my part, and especially jarring in the intro, so I appreciate you mentioning it even if you weren't a fan of the work.

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Don’t think Ayako ever perceived Akira as any kind of romantic partner (obligatory or not) – rather just as a family (non-romantic kind of it, not the other kind she ended up being with Asuka) and a friend.

Otherwise it doesn't add up to a lot of things. Their last conversation (16.2) for example. If they’d already used to have intimate relationship before, Akira would be asking something akin to “and did you felt the same way with me?” instead of her “what if it’s with me?” following by the demonstration of exactly what’d she meant by said line.

That makes sense, although if it were 10 or so years later I think it's reasonable that Ayako might need a reminder. I've always just based it on how casual Ayako and Akira are about the topic: the 'I don't mind if it's me' line, the way she behaves when Akira shows up at the pharmacy, the attempted sleeping kiss (I can buy this being a random impulse from a pent-up-adolescent-passion Asuka, but not from an at-that-point-32?-year-old Akira), Akira's guilt about her not deserving Ayako's love, and Ayako's general begrudging-but-accepting attitude to Akira's teasing. To me (and my girlfriend who read the manga a few months ago), their behavior together absolutely screams that they had a history that they tried to keep Asuka from noticing (of course Asuka of all people would interpret this as Ayako being "attacked"), with Akira eventually falling back into being the supportive Morii family ATM we know and love.

I admit part of the appeal for me is it also recontextualizes the "what happened wasn't your fault" line into something more interesting and relevant IMO. I suspect Taiyaki was really trying to go for something a little too expository about Akira somehow being responsible for Atsushi's death, but it seems like a pretty weird place to bring that up. In light of Akira finding out about the two of them, unexpectedly leaving, and expressing some frustration toward Asuka, an 'it's not you, it's me' speech starts making a lot more sense.

Ultimately, I know this is a fairly ancient debate and it can be read a variety of ways (and I enjoy all of them, including the completely platonic one!) - it's just, from a writer's perspective, Akira being Asuka's thematic mirror is really too tempting a character arc to ignore. I'm looking forward to her showing up in the remake a lot.

ohh thank you for the reply, instant sub XD. yeah i prefer the original too, i think i will skip the remake but read the easygoing oyako instead.

hehehe i read your work, i love it. akira is my most favorite character in here, just how cool she is.. kinda want to see it in manga form. thank you.

Forgot to reply, thank you for reading & I'm happy you liked it. I write assuming I'm probably the only person in the world that the story is going to work for (especially when the subject matter is cross-generational incestuous love triangles) and so when people let me know they enjoyed something I worked on it really makes my day.

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